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Old 11-27-2011   #21
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now this's one of the most stupid thing I've ever read... enno why would a wife refuse to sleep with her husbund ? sex is a part of a good marriage, the couple should be satisfied with each other, if she doesn't want to, then she should ask for divorce ...
Maybe She is a Lesbian,
Or He doesnt satisfies her so she is ok with masturbation or dildos!


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This is not about the article. He was being offensive.
yes I was, we're drifting off topic though.

just because something is a creed doesn't mean it isn't a stupid creed or a hurtful creed, and I cannot be expected to just sit around and accept what comes from it, all the abused and battered wives in Lebanon have nowhere to go and no power to do anything because of this

this isn't about just rape, it's also about battering women, some women have broken bones and a closed swollen eye, sorry for offending your creed actually I offended someone else's creed but still.

people are allowed to be the direct or indirect cause of physical damage and I can't even talk, saying stuff nicely does not work, someone should really point out the enormous stupidity in these situations...

edit: but if you really think about my offending comment... the christian did not like the idea, and the muslims have been for a year protesting against this law(it's a man's right to beat his wife) the reality is more offending than anything I could point out
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yes I was, we're drifting off topic though.

just because something is a creed doesn't mean it isn't a stupid creed or a hurtful creed, and I cannot be expected to just sit around and accept what comes from it, all the abused and battered wives in Lebanon have nowhere to go and no power to do anything because of this

this isn't about just rape, it's also about battering women, some women have broken bones and a closed swollen eye, sorry for offending your creed actually I offended someone else's creed but still.

people are allowed to be the direct or indirect cause of physical damage and I can't even talk, saying stuff nicely does not work, someone should really point out the enormous stupidity in these situations...

edit: but if you really think about my offending comment... the christian did not like the idea, and the muslims have been for a year protesting against this law(it's a man's right to beat his wife) the reality is more offending than anything I could point out
I was not discussing the topic. Only your remark

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if she doesn't want to, just smack her around byemché l7al, that's what jesus would have done
The topic i don't mind at all. However, I strongly oppose the way you address people who adopt different views than yours. You're turning into an atheist bigot.
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it was hard to separate this from religion, it was the only obstacle against passing this law!

what is funny is that jam3iyet el refe2 bel 7ayawen is soon going to propose a series of laws to protect animals from cruelty. if these laws pass animals in lebanon will have more rights than our women yes that would be a very proud moment in our history
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it was hard to separate this from religion, it was the only obstacle against passing this law!
It's obvious that this is linked to religion, that's not what i am opposing. Again ya 3ayne, i am against that very remark you made.
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I'm not against a law that protects women from being battered (I've just learned this word from you ), but we were talking about the wife being raped by her husband, you can't just issue a law that punishes the guy just because his wife wasn't in the mood for it, some women can manipulate this law... Women can be evil too

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While the law in theory may hold no distinction between a spouse or any other person, in practice when the case comes to court there will be difficulties in proving that rape in fact took place. This is because in marriage, sexual relations are to be expected, and if the defense claims consent, then the evidential burden is a very difficult burden for the prosecution to discharge.[57]
The very definition of consent can also lead to problems and deadlock, since social norms permit a varying level of physical intimacy (and freedom) depending on the relationship between the parties.
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Is there anything I can add to the thanks I posted to you're reply and especially this sentence?

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I'm not against a law that protects women from being battered (I've just learned this word from you ), but we were talking about the wife being raped by her husband, you can't just issue a law that punishes the guy just because his wife wasn't in the mood for it, some women can manipulate this law... Women can be evil too

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laws and technicalities bye3la2o for example if the woman was ok with it at the begining, after the process started ghayyaret ra2ya... and since consensual sex requires consent throughout the entire thing it is disputable in such cases whether it is rape or not... but that's not what I am talking about nor what I care about(anymore than you do) it is also hard to prove that she did not consent in these cases

rape usually, what you and I define as rape involves some kind of violence, maybe he slaps her across the face while trying to get what he wants or he forces her violently, that should not be permitted. if a woman shows up to the police station with a black eye and says she was raped by her husband, they send her home now without doing anything...

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t's obvious that this is linked to religion, that's not what i am opposing. Again ya 3ayne, i am against that very remark you made.
it's because that it is linked that I made that comment... we're just running around in circles now
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it's because that it is linked that I made that comment... we're just running around in circles now
La2 3ayne. If you can't debate a religious topic without being offensive and insulting then i suggest you stay away from religious debates.
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alright I give up

I'm sorry and I will do my best to lower my ... aggressiveness?

for those who might have misunderstood the original quote anyway it was not about Jesus(although his name figures) he obviously wouldn't have beaten his wife(not that he'd get married) it was about the people who claim to be christians and "byestaw7o" these actions... this is what the deputees involved thought that as christian representatives they should do

edit: I also like to add once again my disappointment in the fpm deputes
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