FPM Is it Going to Survive?!

[TAREK®]

Originally Posted by xcoder

I am totally okay with the first part regarding the slogans, those will lead no where, knowing that you are the most to use them :P

first i dont use slogans, i use the speech itself w i dont use it when i am discussing something or trying to prove a point i use it when i talk to u

Originally Posted by xcoder

As for the second part, FPM wasn't organized at all in 2005 and it managed to remove all the organized powers facing it.

yeah but this isnt 2005, at 2005 ur leader was outside the country halla2 a7ou hon shu bi serelkon iza nazamto hal tayyar shway wlak the funny part is u are taking my words as if it was something I created, I am talking based on something what people who work for FPM said

Originally Posted by xcoder

What affected FPM in 2009 the most is the unrealistic defense of HA at every single point and actions such as:

• May 7 incidents especially that FPM NEVER supported any armed actions made by other than the Lebanese Army.
• Samer hanna incident in the south and the declaration of "shou 3ambye3mol samer hanna hounik".

The above were an example of the unlimited support that FPM gave to HA and backfired on it big time and the main reason behind its loss in 2009 elections.

in case u havent read well what I said before, I said one of the main reasons why FPM lost the campaign was the lack of organisation

second thats true May 7 did have a bad affect on the entire oposition and not just FPM but should I remind u what YOU said about it

Originally Posted by xcoder

Regardless of what we think about this matter, after May 7 the situation started to improve and solutions were found.

and u were right but 3andak sha3eb raso tankeh who never looks at the point from a different angle..... too bad we had to learn that the hard way

and FYI HA never claimed that they did 7 May to defend the honor of FPM w iza FPM sar bada HA la defe3 3an karameta ya3neh wel ne3em 3ala heik tayyar which brings me back to my previous point...... BADKON NIZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM

[xcoder]

Originally Posted by The Legend Killer

first i dont use slogans, i use the speech itself w i dont use it when i am discussing something or trying to prove a point i use it when i talk to u

The speech itself is full of slogans.

yeah but this isnt 2005, at 2005 ur leader was outside the country halla2 a7ou hon shu bi serelkon iza nazamto hal tayyar shway wlak the funny part is u are taking my words as if it was something I created, I am talking based on something what people who work for FPM said

Tarek, stop repeating yourself, no body said organization is not important, but it's certainly not the reason behind the loss of the opposition.
The whole campaign was about HA ba3ba3, FPM wants wilayat al fakih.

in case u havent read well what I said before, I said one of the main reasons why FPM lost the campaign was the lack of organisation

second thats true May 7 did have a bad affect on the entire oposition and not just FPM but should I remind u what YOU said about it

True, May 7 was the solution and everybody knows that even 14 feb themselves. But it was the main weapon 14 feb used to defeat the opposition. I can't find where's the contradiction in what i said?

and u were right but 3andak sha3eb raso tankeh who never looks at the point from a different angle..... too bad we had to learn that the hard way

and FYI HA never claimed that they did 7 May to defend the honor of FPM w iza FPM sar bada HA la defe3 3an karameta ya3neh wel ne3em 3ala heik tayyar which brings me back to my previous point...... BADKON NIZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM

Khayye shou jeb siret el honor here, what are you trying to prove?
FPM honor isn't imported nor asked from anyone not from HA nor from anyone. Our history is a good proof i believe.

However, what you don't get here, is that HA was the main point in the last elections, HA weapons, wilayat al fakih, the HA republic, may 7 incidents...

FPM organization is something else, eh FPM will die if GMA passes away, FPM is strong now but it won't if GMA passes away, but that wasn't the reason why we lost the elections DOT.

Stop mixing stuff, FPM internal situation and its existence on the long run is a matter, and the 2009 elections are another matter.

[Sheriff Ice]

Originally Posted by The Legend Killer

and FYI HA never claimed that they did 7 May to defend the honor of FPM w iza FPM sar bada HA la defe3 3an karameta ya3neh wel ne3em 3ala heik tayyar which brings me back to my previous point...... BADKON NIZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM

EWWWW

We are not Asking HA to defend, NOR HA nor Marada Nor anybody,

Ya Tarek ya Albe When we were in 13 October where was everybody?!
When we fighting the Syrian for 15 years were was the rest?!
HA!! With all my respect There were main allies with Syria
Marada?!!! on the same track
LF?! they were hiding behind walls
FM?! SSNP?! LOL they were Licking Assad family @$$

FPM sacrificed its popularity and presence on the lebanese for the sake of internal unity and preventing civil war.

What happened in the past 4 year was a choice for us.
Dont you think it was easier for us to keep ourselfs out of this deep $hit?

[TAREK®]

u are right sheriff bass 7abet jewbak 3a hay

Originally Posted by Sheriff Ice

Ya Tarek ya Albe When we were in 13 October where was everybody?!
When we fighting the Syrian for 15 years were was the rest?!

we were busy with el katakit li hejmin 3al jnoub

[El-Meghwar]

I guess you are diving away from the main topic.

FPM is a party built on principles, it's not a matter of one man.
Every true FPMer is a GMA..

FPM will survive as long as true FPMers exist, defending the Rights of their people and country, standing against traitors, corruption, sectarianism, feudalism and every threat or intervention coming from the outside.

FPM is Lebanon's party, and the spirit which every freedom fighter around the world holds inside his heart do exist in the heart of every true FPMer.
and i believe that this spirit will keep existing till ever.

Those who believe that with GMA's death(allah ytawwel 3omro) FPM will cease to exist are surely not FPMers.

I guess FPM should be organized as soon as possible, in order to keep those freedom fighters united under one institution called the Party of The Free Patriotic Movement, and whoever was the head of this party one day, will be another GMA. because as i said earlier every true FPMer is a GMA

Long Live Lebanon.

[General]

Originally Posted by mr_j

frankly after this election my hopes went really down
everything was on our side this election, hizbollah was on our side, the election law was "fair" (unlike it was last time) the 4 generals were released(which was a slap in the face of the hariri party and the tribunal) the murder of rafic el hariri had less impact, the interior minister was not very corrupt, we had our own media working (OTV) we had the telet m3atil and basicly we were ok with most of the decisions taken regarding this election

we had all these factors, we still lost horribly, even in ****erwen and jbeil where we won, it was a close one

4 years from now, I don't expect improvement, before this election we had more confidence, that yeah the lebanese people are with us and we will take the government and we will reform w maba3ref chou

after this, what are we expecting? next elections they will probably flood even more foreign lebanese to vote

5alas I am giving up on politics, I haven't even turned on the news since the election day

define everything was on out side... what you stated above is true, but let me tell what wasn't on our side:

1) Batrak Sfeir
2) Money and buying votes
3) Emigrants and their votes
4) Propaganda
5) Using wileyet el fakih
6) Scaring people of HA's weapons...

which side has more power... i bet the evil one i just talked about

thank god you got 28 MPs...

[Sheriff Ice]

Originally Posted by General

define everything was on out side... what you stated above is true, but let me tell what wasn't on our side:

1) Batrak Sfeir
2) Money and buying votes
3) Emigrants and their votes
4) Propaganda
5) Using wileyet el fakih
6) Scaring people of HA's weapons...

which side has more power... i bet the evil one i just talked about

thank god you got 28 MPs...

Oh And Dont Forget:

7) Aoun 3amil Soure
8) Aoun 3amil Irane
9) FPMers are atheist and they are not Christians
10) Aoun is preparing for a Military regime along with HA
11) HA paid Aoun to cover his back so they can take the power
12) The balck Army moved along side with LF
13) He put his Son in law in the Communication ministry so he can finance his electoral campaign
14) the Ads mone is coming directly from Iran
15) Bull$hits
16) Bull$hit
17) Stupid Believers