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Old 10-06-2012   #11
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It could be the start of sthg better here, that forum needed alot of things to be fixed which they didnt bring on.


HERE is the admins ( X ) facebook if you want to contact him http://facebook.com/mhAGOP
In the past he had issues with me and threw me off his facebook when I added him. He wont reply to me.


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Today is a sad day but i don't feel sad, i feel proud for what i achieved, i never cared for what people thought about it, i fought several battles to keep it alive and never asked for anything in return, instead of building a career, i spent years building it.

It's been some time that i knew this day will come, but this time i don't feel it's worth the fight anymore, when you jump into the ocean you can't blame the sharks for eating you, I made a mistake when i gifted it to the "institution", it all went downhill from there on, it says a lot when a nobody like myself along with unorganized group of individuals from different ages, backgrounds, beliefs and from all over the world succeeded big time but "supposedly an organized" institution failed.

Closing the page on 10 years is not easy, but it's time for me to move on, memories will stay forever, over thousands of great friends will also stay forever, there are hundreds of names in my mind i want to thank but many of them will not even be here to read it, so THANK YOU all one by one for being part of a great success, what we achieved during those years and during different events was nothing short of magical, i don't want to talk details but Nahr el Bered coverage (and all those who copied from us) was the first time in the Arab World that such an event got such coverage, in the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict, no one came close to even match the Israeli propaganda, we crushed them on our own in the summer of 2006, as for what we did for the institution, I don't know and nobody will ever know if we played any part in any of the successful achievements but i know one thing, we did clean their mess and we did it many times.


I can easily move it back to where it was back in 2002 but why should I? I finally feel free and i longer have to clean anyone's mess and most importantly, I don't want to defend the mistakes and "fight" the wrong causes.

I don't know where will i end up, but I am going to give up on so many things, starting with the "institution" and most probably the shithole (AKA Lebanon) itself, Canada, USA, Australia, UAE and Qatar are all options but i also realize how this past 10 years i ignored many people who love me, i might stick around for now, just for my family and friends.

That was an article written on the fb page of this person Sev
shou mnefham?
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oh yeh here is it , http://www.facebook.com/notes/hagop-...51177528964568


thanks for noticing that one out.
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salut a tous,
ce n'est pas possible que le forum soit piraté?
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No its not hacked, Hagop Manisajian who is X closed the forum.
why not at least inform us about it beforehand? at least we can manage to invite each other to another place?

Or why not move it elsewhere like you claim your capable of?
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And is John still active over here. Maybe he could shed some light on the issue or give some needed explanations!

My first guess, that's all some internal silly conflicts..
No silly conflicts, Tayyar.org has no plans to keep the forum online, so they decided to close it.
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"جنود الجنرال" قضوا على عشر سنوات من "التضحي

ناشطون عونيون أقفلوا
forum.tayyar.org
احتجاجاً على "ضغوط القيادة


05/10/2012
Now Lebanon

تسببت الضغوط التي مارسها قياديون في التيار الوطني الحر على محرري موقع
http://forum.tayyar.org/
أو ما اصطلح على تسميته " الغرفة البرتقالية "، الى إقفال موقع الغرفة وشطبه من موقع التيار الحر من قبل المحررين، الذين رفضوا توجيهات القيادة القاضية بعدم نشر أي مادة لا تخضع للرقابة الصارمة من قبل كوادر التيار. علماً أنّ هذه الغرفة تأسست قبل نحو عشر سنوات كغرفة نقاش الكتروني، يساهم في النقاش على صفحاتها ناشطون من مختلف التيارات والاحزاب اللبنانية، ما أدّى الى توسع عدد أعضائها ليبلغ 22 ألفاً، شاركوا في الكتابة التفاعلية، فيما بلغ عدد الزوّار الدائمين نحو 83 ألفاً.

محرّرو الغرفة اعتبروا أنّ التدخلات المستمرة، التي باشرتها قيادة التيار منذ العام 2007 ، أدّت الى ضرب الفكرة التي نشأت على أساسها الغرفة، بل ضرب القضية التي آمنوا بها، وهي حرية الفكر والتعبير والديموقراطية، وتقبّل الرأي الآخر، فتحوّلت الى قمع ورفض رأي ناشطين من حزب " الكتائب " و" القوات اللبنانية "، بل وأكثر من ذلك تريد شطب أي رأي أو مقال يوضع على هذه الصفحة لا يتناسب مع سياسة التيار أو زعيمه، على الرغم من الرقابة المشدّدة التي كان يفرضها المحررون على كل إساءة لأي زعيم أو سياسي.

ويرى ناشط عوني على صلة وثيقة بإدارة المنتدى أنّ القياديين في التيار "ما عادت تهمّهم المبادئ والقيم، وخصوصاً المسؤولين عن موقع التيار الحر والمحطة البرتقالية، وهم استبدلوا الحرية بالمال، والديموقراطية بالسلطة والنفوذ ليقنعوا محرري المنتدى المتطوعين، بأنّهم لا يملكون المال الكافي لدعم المنتدى".

وتابع، "انها نهاية حزينة لعشر سنوات من العمل الدؤوب من أجل قول الحق والحقيقة، عملنا خلالها متطوعين من مختلف الدول، أي لبنان، وكندا واستراليا ودبي وغيرها من الدول. دفعنا النفقات من حسابنا الخاص، وضحّينا بوقتنا وعائلاتنا من أجل هدف سامٍ، جمع كل المذاهب والمعتقدات، وكل التيارات والاحزاب ألا وهو "حرية التعبير"، إلى ان أتى بعض القياديين من ناكري الجميل ليخنقوا حريتنا، وليقمعوا كلماتنا تحت عنوان الكيدية والمصلحة العونية السياسية".

وشرح الناشط أهمية هذا المنتدى على صعيد نقل الاحداث والاخبار في أحداث " نهر البارد" والانتخابات في العام 2009، حيث كان المنتدى مصدراً لصحافيين ولمواقع الكترونية إخبارية.

أضاف، "طبعاً، لم تكن حجّتهم مقنعة، ولم يكن تحدّيهم وعنادهم أقوى، أحببنا التيار الحرّ من أجل الجنرال وليس من أجل كوادره ومسؤوليه. وأحببنا الجنرال لمعتقداته وأفكاره الحرّة والجريئة. اليوم، يريدون منّا التخلي عن كل ما آمنّا به ليقولوا للعالم : "نحن أو لا أحد"، إلاّ أنّهم لم ولن يحصلوا على مبتغاهم. وُجد هذا المنتدى من اجل حرية التعبير والرأي وأغلقناه تحت هذا الشعار كي نبقى نحن العونيين الاصيلين وهم المنشقون".

وختم: "نسوا الشعب الذي منه انبثقوا ولأجله وُجدوا، وهرولوا وراء المال ظنّاً منهم أنّه سيدوم لهم ومن خلاله سيحصلون على المجد، لكّننا سنذكرهم أنّ الانتخابات قادمة وأنّ مالهم ومصالحهم فانية وأنّ كلمة الحق باقية


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