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Justin 10-26-2007 08:08 AM

What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
What Do you think is the right solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria? Should we start a war? kidnap their soldiers? Wait for the International Court Final results to take a side against Syria? Or what?

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FriendOfZeus 10-26-2007 11:26 AM

Re: What's the Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
I dont see the prisoners getting out unless theres a regime change in syria. I mean kidnapping their soldiers wont do any good but aggravate relations. Start a war? as in lebanon against syria??

Sunger` 10-26-2007 12:36 PM

Re: What's the Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
simple solutionn

do good relations with syria...


iza kel youm ja3ja3 ou jonblat ou jami3it il solta, bi sibbo syriaa , tirwi2a ghada 3asha, sorry to say , geir allah ma 7ayjebon lal osara..


hope tp edit the topic , SYRIA & ISRAEL

FriendOfZeus 10-26-2007 12:50 PM

Re: What's the Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunger` (Post 104134)
simple solutionn

do good relations with syria...


iza kel youm ja3ja3 ou jonblat ou jami3it il solta, bi sibbo syriaa , tirwi2a ghada 3asha, sorry to say , geir allah ma 7ayjebon lal osara..


hope tp edit the topic , SYRIA & ISRAEL

We were under syrian occupation for 15 years after the civil war and still they didnt release the prisoners. I dont think that improving relations with syria will work, they will always concider us as inferior and lebanon as being a part of them.

Krazy 10-26-2007 05:10 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
There are few ways. One is kidnapping some Syrians which is not the best way ;)

The best way is for our government to go to Syria and try to make some deals regarding the Lebanese prisoners and change some of the Lebanese-Syrian agreements which gives benefit to Syria.
On the table [coz under the table it might be different], USA is pressuring Syria so it's the best thing to do for our government is going to Syria and using the pressure for this issue.

Moreover, every political party must unite with the FPM and organize protests infront of the UN headquarter (or whatever they call it) in Beirut. This might put a little more pressure on Syria.

General 10-26-2007 05:53 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
Slaymen Franjieh :)

OS7 10-26-2007 05:54 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
Guys, what prisoners? If Syria have had any prisoners, she'd be finishing them all now!
Guys, what country does sign on his own death penalty?
What country will say that yes i have lebanese prisoners?
If syria once had lebanese hero's, now she doesn't.
Of course Israel has confirmed that she have lebanese prisoners for the only reason and that is because Al-moqawama in lebanon still have israeli's prisoners! (Ex-change prosses).
I am pretty sure that syria has shot or hanged or even thru acide at them to destroy any organic bodies left!

El-Meghwar 10-26-2007 07:20 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by General Rami (Post 104153)
Slaymen Franjieh :)

what is he waiting for ??

i think the best way is a Government and not a bunch of Thieves called ministers like we have now.
only the Government MUST solve this problem and not personal initiatives, we live in a country in here and not in balad kel min fete7 3a 7ssebo.

moghwar_22 10-26-2007 08:07 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
i think kidnaping some siryans it will be the best thing 2 do

FriendOfZeus 10-27-2007 04:02 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
Just like the u.s wont be able to stop the iranian nuclear program, i dont thnk that u can retrieve some prisoners unless theirs a regime change in syria.
U cant just change a mentality that has been predominent there for 60 years.

lebanese_a 10-27-2007 06:24 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
Kidnapping Syrian soldiers won't work, do you seriously believe that the 455#013 in Damascus gives a damn about his people and soldiers?

btw why don't we use the good relations trick some people suggested to get our prisoners back from Israel?

flamenguita 10-27-2007 09:52 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
I think also the best solutin would be forming a real goverment with real men who have the ability to face Syria and other than Syria. This kind of system can't be forced by twisting his arm. These people should have negociators and a certan manner in negociating.

Shouting loud and doing notin' will hurt more and more the situation of our prisoners there. They will to the syrians like " fashet khele2" each time someone here insults Syria but from far!

Jess 07-18-2008 09:48 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
Guys don't you think eno it's the time to see the Lebanese

Detainees in Syria Free ??? :)

RAM BÓY™ 07-18-2008 10:00 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jess (Post 145610)
Guys don't you think eno it's the time to see the Lebanese



Detainees in Syria Free ??? :)

100 % right :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

SysTaMatIcS 07-18-2008 10:28 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
kidnapp some syrian soldiers and exchange them! thts the only way after asking for the lebanese prisoners

El-Meghwar 07-19-2008 06:59 AM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
just ask Geagea, Jumblat and the other pro syrian militias in that time about the places where they buried them ;)

Jess 07-19-2008 08:30 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
I really feel sorry for those parents who set camps in protest to their kids being held in Syrian prisons.

Nobody gives them a damn attention


WE WANT THEM BACK!

WE WANT THEM BACK!

WE WANT THEM BACK!

WE WANT THEM BACK :@

J()e 07-19-2008 08:36 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
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just ask Geagea, Jumblat and the other pro syrian militias in that time about the places where they buried them ;)
how about asking narsalla and berri:D they Had-have a gr8 relation with syria ;),maybe they could work something out! wasata aw chi chaghle !!

Jess 07-19-2008 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by J()e (Post 145708)
how about asking narsalla and berri:D they Had-have a gr8 relation with syria ;),maybe they could work something out! wasata aw chi chaghle !!


Bcharré we are refering to those who delivered the lebanese prisoners to 7afez l asad back to the 80s and 90s not those who have only the connection with Syria.

J()e 07-19-2008 08:43 PM

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Bcharré we are refering to those who delivered the lebanese prisoners to 7afez l asad back to the 80s and 902s not those who have only the cpnnection with Syria.
lool ya 3ayne:D CHOU KHASS?????????????:D lool

the thread title is what's the right solution.....

i'm giving a solution,a very acceptable one !! which is letting the lebanese parties that HAD and still having excellent relations with syria to have some wasata or something slaimen franjieh kamen isn't bad!

Jess 07-19-2008 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by J()e (Post 145711)
lool ya 3ayne:D CHOU KHASS?????????????:D lool

the thread title is what's the right solution.....

i'm giving a solution,a very acceptable one !! which is letting the lebanese parties that HAD and still having excellent relations with syria to have some wasata or something slaimen franjieh kamen isn't bad!


we need to know at first if the detainees are still alive or "ndafano bl ma2abir l jame3iye" that was done by your master before we begin to search for the solutions ;)

J()e 07-19-2008 08:58 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
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we need to know at first if the detainees are still alive or "ndafano bl ma2abir l jame3iye" that was done by your master before we begin to search for the solutions ;)
lool,first of all,i don't have a master,my only master is god,i don't know if u worship som1 other than god;):)
second ..in order to know if what u claimed is true ya3ne the quoted part u need to have a negotiations right?? and u know enno syria won't negociate to 14 march leaders so what do we do ???? we ask the lebanese ""masters"":D that supports syria to do the JOB

i hope i cleared my point !!!!!:D:)

Jess 07-19-2008 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by J()e (Post 145716)
lool,first of all,i don't have a master,my only master is god,i don't know if u worship som1 other than god;):)
second ..in order to know if what u claimed is true ya3ne the quoted part u need to have a negotiations right?? and u know enno syria won't negociate to 14 march leaders so what do we do ???? we ask the lebanese ""masters"":D that supports syria to do the JOB

i hope i cleared my point !!!!!:D:)


your point is very clear bs it seems eno your not getting my point, read again my previous posts and then cheri3 ;)

remember eno we as LFPM are not the only persons that have detainees in Syria or you forgot Boutros KHawand ??? so we ALL need to "ntalib" fiyoun ;)

Syria is ready to negociate with any person we all know that ya Mr Joe

El-Meghwar 07-19-2008 09:46 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by J()e (Post 145708)
how about asking narsalla and berri:D they Had-have a gr8 relation with syria ;),maybe they could work something out! wasata aw chi chaghle !!

work something what ??
if the LF and the other militias buried those missing people and never arrived to Syria, what negotiations will help ?? if Syria doesent have any Lebanese detainees because all of those missings were killed in Lebanon by militias like LF-PSP-AMAL-SSNP ... betkhalleflkon Syria yehon ??

the Lebanese Militias know very well the destiny of those missings, and i doubt that they are in Syria, anyway an investigation should be held, and everyone including Syria must bear their responsabilities and help in that.

-t-o-n-y- 07-19-2008 09:56 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
well what joe is saying is right since nabih berri have good connections with the syrian regime he could do something......2nd we should first know if there are prisoners or they are killed like meghwar said not only by LF but also amal ssnp.....

M|ch 07-19-2008 11:35 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
well i think that Joe's point of view is right , Ha and berri have very good relation with Syria that they can use to free lebanese prisoners from Syria.

plus i remember Nassralla always claiming that he will always fight Israel to get back all the LEBANESE prisoners from israel to LEBANON, because HA is a lebanese Resistance that will fight any1 to get back Lebanon's right and its civilians' right? so why dont he "yhema chway" with the Syrians and try to get back all the prisoners from there. after all They are LEBANESE the prisoners in Israel or Syria ? right ;) ?

SysTaMatIcS 07-20-2008 12:18 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
i remember once that sayed hasan said in an interview that he asked for the lebanese prisoners in syria , they said they have nothin! , I DONT KNOW WAT MORE CAN HE DO!

Jess 07-20-2008 04:22 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
أبو جمرا: المعتقلون في سوريا من الاولويات التي سيبحثها سليمان مع الأسد

:)

Rami_s 07-20-2008 04:49 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Orange Room-Solid
Solid will have an activity tomorrow at 10:30 AM in Baabda highway (in front of Supermarket Abi Khalil), details will not be published now.

The Syrian Foreign Minister Walid el Mouaalem will be visiting Baabda Palace around that time.

All the ones who wish to participate in the activity can directly go to the meeting point.

انشـــــــــــــــالله خير

Rami_s 07-20-2008 09:55 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
أكد الامين العام للمجلس الأعلى اللبناني - السوري...
...خوري، وفي حديث إلى تلفزيون الـ
"OTV"
... أعرب عن اعتقاده أنّ هناك نية جدية لايجاد حل كامل لموضوع المعتقلين اللبنانيين في سوريا

Jess 07-21-2008 10:24 AM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
الوزير ماريو عون أكد "للنشرة" ان وزراء "التغيير" طالبوا بإدراج ملف الأسرى في سوريا بالبيان الوزاري وكشف أن السنيورة طرح المسودة الأولى

elnashra

flamenguita 07-21-2008 12:01 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
أكد مسؤول جمعية "حقنا نعرف" هادي سعيد لـ"
elnashra.com"
أن الحرس الجمهوري في الجيش اللبناني اعتدى بالضرب على أهالي الأسرى اللبنانيين في السجون السورية مما أدى إلى سقوط جرحى وإصابات في صفوف الأهالي واعتقال الشاب إيلي رومية شقيق

المعتقل في السجون السورية بشارة رومية.

Completely outrageous and unacceptable! how on earth can they do such thing with people who are demanding the least of their rights?!


flamenguita 07-21-2008 12:02 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
الجيش يخلي سبيل الشاب الذي اعتقل خلال تظاهرة أهالي الأسرى في سوريا

elnashra

flamenguita 07-21-2008 12:05 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
لملعم، وفي حديث صحفي بعد لقائه سليمان، أكد أن موضوع الأسرى في السجون السورية كان قيد بحث بين سوريا ولبنان من خلال لجنة قضاة معروفين بالنزاهة، داعيا لتشجيع هذه اللجنة من أجل إنجاز عملها. وأضاف: "من صبر ثلاثين عاما يستطيع أن ينتظر بضعة أسابيع".

elnashra

Such insolence to say it! Who waited 30 yaers? you mean who agonized for 30 years without knowing what is the fate of their loved ones! I hope u will pay tough the consequences of your acts and those who delivered the prisoners will get their punishement also!

flamenguita 07-21-2008 12:08 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
علّق رئيس لجنة "دعم المعتقلين والمنفيين اللبنانيين-سوليد" غازي عاد على حديث وزير الخارجية السوري وليد المعلم من قصر بعبدا والذي أكد فيه أن من انتظر 30 عاما في موضوع الأسرى اللبنانيين في سوريا يستطيع الإنتظار بضعة أسابيع، شاكرا المعلم على اعترافه بأن هذه الممارسة عمرها 30 عاما. وأكد، في حديث لـ"
elnashra.com"
، أن الحديث عن بضعة أسابيع التزام جدي من قبل المعلم ستتم متابعته.

Absolutely right!


Rami_s 07-21-2008 08:07 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 

xcoder 07-22-2008 08:30 AM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rami_s (Post 145874)

What the hell?
This is not acceptable at all, the responsible of this mess should be punished big time!!
That syrian regime won't leave our detainees the easy way THEY DO HAVE DETAINEES and the big fat moalem said it indirectly today "who waited 30 years can wait few weeks more".
True, not all of them are in syrian because they were killed on many militias check points,kidnapped...
But such thing should not be seen slightly, there are people who suffered for many decades in the syrian jails and should be freed and honored.
Hizbullah got an answer that there are no longer Lebanese in syrian jails. But personally i'd rather believe those mothers who saw their children in the syrian jails on believing what assad's regime says.

Jess 07-26-2008 12:16 AM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
الحكومة والمفقودون في سوريا

ثمّة إصرار عوني على أن يتضمّن البيان الوزاري بتّ قضيّة المفقودين في السجون السورية، واعتماد آلية فحص الحمض النووي، وأن يكلَّف وزير دولة بهذا الشأن
.

Al akhbar

Gilgamesh 07-26-2008 04:55 AM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
The "sister" has Lebanese Detainees :| and I was told for years by its slaves that it is our best ally :( What a disappointment :(.....

You can't kidnap Syrian hostages because if you do that they will close the border. That means help will have to come from Western countries. The Shiite Right will be in a dilemma between refusing aid from western countries and watching people starving. Besides I can't see anyone both capable and willing to do it.

The only way it should be done is by forming a committee that communicates with the Syrians and negotiates a deal to return the bodies ( I doubt any prisoner is still alive....Syrian prison food doesn't suit lebanese stomachs). The committee should be formed of ministers from HA and others from the former loyalist block....It is vital to keep traditions that gurantee a soveriegn image that the negotiations should not take place on Syrian Lands...



Jess 08-02-2008 12:02 PM

Re: What's the RIGHT Solution to bring back the prisoners from Syria?
 
توقع مسؤول في تيار معارض حل مجموعة من الملفات الصعبة مثل عودة المهجرين، عودة اللاجئين إلى إسرائيل، والمفقودين في سوريا بأسرع مما يتصوّر البعض. وقد بدأ العمل الجدّي لحلّ هذه الملفات

el-akhbar


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