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Jess 01-09-2008 04:00 PM

Arab Ministers in Lebanon - Updates
 
PLz keep this thread for the updates of the visits of the Arab Ministers to Lebanon

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وصل الامين العام لجامعة الدول العربية عمرو موسى الى مطار بيروت الدولي سيتوجه بعدها مباشرة الى عين التينة للقاء رئيس المجلس النيابي نبيه بري

وصل الامين العام لجامعة الدول العربية عمرو موسى الى عين التينة حيث سيجري لقاء مع رئيس المجلس النيابي نبيه بري

elnashra

Jess 01-09-2008 04:07 PM

Re: Arab Ministers in Lebanon - Updates
 
أكد الامين العام لجامعة الدول العربية عمرو موسى ان الهدف من زيارته الى لبنان هو حل الازمة اللبنانية دون تمييز بين اي فريق سياسي مشيراً الى أن المبادرة العربية " واضحة وليست بحاجة لتفسير وشرح وقواميس".
موسى الذي كان يتحدث بعد لقائه رئيس المجلس النيابي نبيه بري لفت الى ان لقائه مع بري "كان مفيدا ومهما للغاية" ورأى ان "التعاون السوري السعودي موجود وأنا شاهد عليه ومرتاح لتقدمه" رافضاً الافتراض بأن هناك "تبادل الادوار بين المعارضة والسوريين


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they are discussing what to do with our country.:@
شو خصه فينا؟؟؟؟؟؟

FriendOfZeus 01-09-2008 04:13 PM

Re: Arab Ministers in Lebanon - Updates
 
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شو خصه فينا؟؟؟؟؟؟
We are an arabic country, and we are indeed a member in the arab leage....so khasso, i dont understand why ur angry about this, its not like hes siding with anyone, hes doing his job and trying to solve things in a peacefull manner.

Its not like we know how to solve our own issues peacefully, so lets give him a chance, even though we dont deserve it.

Jess 01-09-2008 04:24 PM

Re: Arab Ministers in Lebanon - Updates
 
لاء ما خصه ولا شوي! و لو بيهتم ببلادو بيكون احسن و احسن!
ما بدنا حدا يتدخل! مين قلون انو ما منعرف نحل مشاكلنا
لوحدنا؟؟
this is OUR country!!!! walaw :|
Nothing merits external opinion, influence or decision on our country!
يحلوا كلون عن سما ربنا ولو!

Jess 01-09-2008 04:37 PM

Re: Arab Ministers in Lebanon - Updates
 
عمرو موسى بدأ زيارته الرسمية مكلفا من وزراء الخارجية العرب: لبنان في خطر وانقاذه ممكن والعالم كله مهتم بما سيجري هنا

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ايه مبلا! العالم كله مهتم بما سيجري بلبنان
العالم كلو مهتم انو يشوف لبنان عم ينهار اكثر و اكثر لان كل العالم عندن مصلحة هون!!

كم مرة صرنا سامعين هلجملة؟؟؟؟
لبنان بخطر من ورا تدخلاتن!!!

حلو عن لبنان و ما بتشوفوا اللا كل الخير بلبنان!

FriendOfZeus 01-09-2008 04:40 PM

Re: Arab Ministers in Lebanon - Updates
 
Quote:

لاء ما خصه ولا شوي! و لو بيهتم ببلادو بيكون احسن و احسن!
ما بدنا حدا يتدخل! مين قلون انو ما منعرف نحل مشاكلنا
لوحدنا؟؟
this is OUR country!!!! walaw :|
Nothing merits external opinion, influence or decision on our country!
يحلوا كلون عن سما ربنا ولو



Eh se3eta khalina nedhar men l jem3a l arabiye....ktir mante2e hakyek jess.....

Jess 01-09-2008 04:46 PM

Re: Arab Ministers in Lebanon - Updates
 
خيي اذا الجامعة العربية و تدخلاتها بدون ياثروا سلبيا ع وضع لبنان الداخلي اكيد ايه بلاها احسن!

FriendOfZeus 01-09-2008 04:48 PM

Re: Arab Ministers in Lebanon - Updates
 
And how did the peacefull intervention of the arab league have a negative effect on the country?

Gilgamesh 01-09-2008 04:59 PM

Re: Arab Ministers in Lebanon - Updates
 
Well I would like to take Jess' idealistic stance and say no one should interfere at all but this will always be a dream hard to accomplish. Too bad we have politicians not grown up enough or not free enough to sit together and solve their problems so we need ppl like 3amr mousa....All what he is here to do is what he has been doing for so long, going from one politician to another and trying to reach common ground. If that is the only way common ground might be reached, I am afraid I have to say "ahla w sahla" to 3amr moussa or whoever wants to play his role. I however think it is not the right way to do things.

Jess 01-09-2008 05:03 PM

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الفكرة اللي صرلي ساعة بحكي عنا انو ما بدنا بقى مداخلات خارجية لو شو ما كانت تكون و لو من مين ما كانت!!

FriendOfZeus 01-09-2008 05:06 PM

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الفكرة اللي صرلي ساعة بحكي عنا انو ما بدنا بقى مداخلات خارجية لو شو ما كانت تكون و لو من مين ما كانت!!

But jess it wont solve the problem, if no one interfeered we would just end up killing each other like we always have throughout history....we are not the most civilized people im afraid :(

Sheriff Ice 01-09-2008 05:12 PM

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لبنان لازم يكون سيد حر مستقل ما حدا الو خصا في ناضلنا 15 سنة مش ليجي عمرو موسى يقرر يروح يعمل ديمقراطية ببلادو قبل ما يجي لهون

Jess 01-09-2008 05:16 PM

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يا عمي تدخلاتن ما الها معنى و مصير لبنان معلق ع كف عفريت يا عالم!
ما ناقصنا تدخلات!
ما ناقصنا زرع فتن اكثر ما موجود فتن بلبنان!

مش الكل حيكون مبسوط من ورا هلتدخلات!!!!! لكان يتركونا نحل مشاكلنا نحنا بين بعض لو اد ما بدا تاخد وقت القصة!

Sheriff Ice 01-09-2008 05:22 PM

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من وقت ما بلشوا العرب بلبنان و ما طلع منن شي و كل ما تدخلوا تعقدت المشكلة اكتر و جابولنا احتلال جديد ما بدنا منن شي يروح كل واحد منن يقعد ببلادو ويحل عنا

TAREKŪ 01-09-2008 05:28 PM

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lah ya friendofzeus sar el ossa bada 5ayak el Resistance

listen I think we had enough from outside interference I mean half of our problemes ( I am saying half only to talk minimum) are becoz of outside interference, they all talk about how they want the sake of Lebanon which just a lie, if u think they should interfere then lemme ask u this question friendofzeus, didn't these "arabs" turned on us in war 2006? When our contry was cowardly attacked where were these arabs? Last time I remembered they smiled when they said that they won't help us

FriendOfZeus 01-09-2008 05:33 PM

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listen I think we had enough from outside interference I mean half of our problemes ( I am saying half only to talk minimum) are becoz of outside interference, they all talk about how they want the sake of Lebanon which just a lie, if u think they should interfere then lemme ask u this question friendofzeus, didn't these "arabs" turned on us in war 2006? When our contry was cowardly attacked where were these arabs? Last time I remembered they smiled when they said that they won't help us
U should how to differentiate between the arab league and its goals and purpose and the intentions of individual arab countries.

TAREKŪ 01-09-2008 05:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FriendOfZeus (Post 116798)
U should how to differentiate between the arab league and its goals and purpose and the intentions of individual arab countries.

Man can I ask u a question, what are u first arab or Lebanese?

Jess 01-09-2008 05:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FriendOfZeus (Post 116798)
U should how to differentiate between the arab league and its goals and purpose and the intentions of individual arab countries.

ما حدا بدوا مصلحة لبنان اللا الشعب اللبناني!
لا العرب ولا الاجانب!

Sheriff Ice 01-09-2008 05:52 PM

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all what does the arabs care about is to come to leb so they can sleep with girls and get drunk do u think they really abt ur security and living in peace they give a shit abt that, lebanon for the arabs is just a cabaret

TAREKŪ 01-09-2008 05:55 PM

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adding to what Jess and Icemaker said: Arabs wants Lebanon to be a battle ring for them

Gilgamesh 01-09-2008 05:55 PM

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The arab league has no authority guys to impose its views....the fear as FriendOfZeus said, comes from individual Arabic countries not from the arab league. 3amr moussa will only be like a moderator of a debate, nothing more.

Jess 01-09-2008 06:01 PM

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We do not need to debate with them concerning LEBANON!
we need to debate wiz ourselves concerning our country!

Gilgamesh 01-09-2008 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jess (Post 116809)
We do not need to debate with them concerning LEBANON!
we need to debate wiz ourselves concerning our country!

It seems that the politicians in our beloved country dont wanna debate each other, right Jess?

Jess 01-09-2008 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by athegan (Post 116811)
It seems that the politicians in our beloved country dont wanna debate each other, right Jess?

ايه هلشي صح بس ما ضرورة حدا يتدخل :(

Gilgamesh 01-09-2008 06:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jess (Post 116814)
ايه هلشي صح بس ما ضرورة حدا يتدخل :(

Then we should look at our country stay like this, with no government and no president and no consensual legitimate authority and with a parliament that doesn't meet and therefore doesn't carry out the will of those who elected its members and no one looking in the "to3oon" and and and.....

Or else we should have some solution, I am waiting for someone to name what that would be...

J()e 01-09-2008 06:27 PM

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lool,ya jame3a,the arab countries seeks their own benefice,just like syria,iran,usa israel,No body is in love with lebanon,they all work for their own goals.....

TAREKŪ 01-09-2008 06:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by athegan (Post 116816)
Then we should look at our country stay like this, with no government and no president and no consensual legitimate authority and with a parliament that doesn't meet and therefore doesn't carry out the will of those who elected its members and no one looking in the "to3oon" and and and.....

Or else we should have some solution, I am waiting for someone to name what that would be...

ino ma byemsheh el 7al tawafo2 bala tada5ol 5arjeh??? c'mon people from where did u get these ideas, if Lebanese people stopped outside interference from the first place we wouldn't have problemes like this, now we are in big trouble, really close to a civil war, and now when the civil war comes, the same people that said that they are with Lebanon will turn on us.... and u know what? there is no one to blame other than Lebanese goverment and the people for accepting these things to happen

Jess 01-09-2008 06:32 PM

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لبنان صرلوا اكثر من 20 سنة هيك و كلنا منعرف انو التدخلات ما رح تفيد....
و اذا الرؤساء اللبنانيين ما رح يتفقوا بين بعضون, ما حدا رد يقدر يجمعن!

flamenguita 01-09-2008 08:29 PM

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Guys, who always lived as parasite and depending on the syrians for 30 years, won't mind and can't but live also as parasite and depending on the americans and arabs.

Normal.

FriendOfZeus 01-09-2008 09:12 PM

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Man can I ask u a question, what are u first arab or Lebanese?
I am arab lebanese baalbaki men bedneyel. Arab 1st because thats the race i belong to 1st and outmost, that is the race of my parents, my grandparents and my ancestors. Mitl Indian Sioux iza fhemt azdeh. Not because i prefer one over the other, i hold both of them at great esteems, but in my opinion thats how things should be. Sorry but i am not going to ignore my arab roots because i am proud of them.

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ما حدا بدوا مصلحة لبنان اللا الشعب اللبناني!
لا العرب ولا الاجانب!

We lebanese are stupider then we are arogant, we go around blabering and pointing finguers while we cant see that the true essence of the our problems is us and our behavior and how our society conducts itself. Yeah the lebanese people that goe around throwing insults and curses at eachother all day and night, and has not yet after 200 000 killed and burned, destroyed country learned how deadly ignorance and fanatism can be.

Badek l saraha ya jess, ana bzon eno nehna ma mnesthe2 helm metl lebnen, haydeh l saraha, lebnen hay dal akbar men sha3bo w tassarofo, lebnen b3emro ma ha yetwasakh mena w men tassaroufetna.

FriendOfZeus 01-09-2008 09:15 PM

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Quote:

all what does the arabs care about is to come to leb so they can sleep with girls and get drunk do u think they really abt ur security and living in peace they give a shit abt that, lebanon for the arabs is just a cabaret
Because we allowed them to do these things, dont clear urself of the mistakes we did, its not their fault we opened our doors and said "hey leb is a big freacking super night, u can whatever u please, just as long as u spend tons of money!"

El-Meghwar 01-09-2008 09:48 PM

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"friendofzeus"
لديه وجهة نظر بما يقول.. فلبنان من الأعضاء المؤسسين لجامعة الدول العربية، ومن أهداف جامعة
الدول العربية مساعدة الدول الأعضاء على حلّ خلافاتها وايجاد حلول لمشاكلها وبما أن لبنان هو عضو في هذه الجامعة ولم ينسحب منها حتّى الآن فلهذه الجامعة الحق بطرح مشاريع حلّ وبالنهاية يعود للبنانيين أن يقررّوا الموافقة عليها أو عدمه... أمّا إذا كان هدف الوزراء العرب الضغط على أي طرف لبناني وذلك لمصالح خاصة على حساب المصلحة اللبنانية فطبعًا هذا شيء مرفوض وغير مقبول فالمصلحة اللبنانية ومصلحة الشعب اللبناني تأتي أولًا وهي فوق كل اعتبار

Jess 01-10-2008 12:37 PM

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11.25: انتهى لقاء البطريرك صفير بالسيد عمر موسى

11.20: دعا الامين العام لجامعة الدول العربية عمرو موسى عقب لقائه البطريرك صفير الى تكثيف الجهود للخروج من المأزق الراهن ، معتبراً ان الحل المطلوب ليس معجزةً، وأكد أن الجامعة العربية تسعى الى إنتخاب رئيس وقيام حكومة وفق الدستور والاعراف. وجدد طرح الجامعة العربية الداعي غلى تشيكل حكومة لا يستطيع أي طرف ان يعطل عملها، ولا يستطيع أي فريق ان يستأثر في السلطة ويكون الصوت المرجح لرئيس الجمهورية .وشدد موسى على قيام افضل العلاقات مع دول الجوار على اساس أحترام سيادة كل دولة وادارة المصالح المشتركة.


09.55: وصل منذ قليل الامين العام لجامعة الدول العربية عمرو موسى الى بكركي ويجتمع الآن مع البطريرك صفير

www.tayyar.org

Jess 01-10-2008 12:39 PM

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12.55: موسى: صوت رئيس الجمهورية هو المرجح وهذا لا يختلف عليه احد

12.45: انتهى اجتماع موسى بالعماد عون

11.56: وصل عمرو موسى الى دارة العماد عون في الرابية

11.35: موسى يتوجه الآن الى الرابية

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3...3webjpghj0.jpg

Jess 01-10-2008 12:41 PM

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13.18: يلتقي موسى في هذه الأثناء الرئيس أمين الجميل على أن يلتقي في الساعة الرابعة من بعد ظهر النائب جنبلاط

tayyar.org

flamenguita 01-10-2008 12:51 PM

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http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3...3webjpghj0.jpg

Jess 01-10-2008 03:20 PM

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15.05: موسى يلتقي الرئيس بري في هذه الأثناء للمرة الثانية ، بعيداً عن الإعلام

14.12: الجميل يثمّن المبادرة العربية بعيد لقائه موسى


tayyar.org

TAREKŪ 01-10-2008 03:39 PM

Re: Arab Ministers in Lebanon - Updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FriendOfZeus (Post 116852)
I am arab lebanese baalbaki men bedneyel. Arab 1st because thats the race i belong to 1st and outmost, that is the race of my parents, my grandparents and my ancestors. Mitl Indian Sioux iza fhemt azdeh. Not because i prefer one over the other, i hold both of them at great esteems, but in my opinion thats how things should be. Sorry but i am not going to ignore my arab roots because i am proud of them.

So lemme get this straight, the way I understand it is when u are in a World Wide meeting where there is people from all countries and when u introduce yourself u say: " Hi I am arab" not " Hi I am Lebanese" which means u are proud to be an arabic guy more than being a Lebanese guy, plus u got me wrong I didn't say "ignore ur arab roots" I said " Lebanon comes before arab" thats all I am saying I am not saying u don't make a point and u are wrong and I am right I am saying that Arabs don't care about us why should we care about them? thats the whole point

Jess 01-10-2008 03:39 PM

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16.23: تمّ إلغاء لقاء موسى - بيدرسون الذي كان مقرراً اليوم، ومن المتوقع ان يلتقي موسى جنبلاط في هذه الأثناء

tayyar.org

Jess 01-10-2008 03:41 PM

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كشفت مصادر مطلعة لـ"المركزية" ان لقاء الامين العام لجامعة الدول العربية عمرو موسى ورئيس المجلس النيابي نبيه بري اليوم كان للبحث في كيفية تحقيق لقاء بين المفوّض من الغالبية النائب سعد الحريري والمفوض من المعارضة النائب العماد ميشال عون، وذلك للبحث في كيفية اطلاق الحل عبر التفاهم على العنوان الحكومي رئيسا وتوزيع قوى بما يؤدي الى اطلاق انتخاب العماد سليمان رئيسا للجمهورية في جلسة السبت المقبل.

ولم تستبعد المصادر نفسها تحوّل اللقاء الى رباعي يضم بري والحريري وعون والنائب وليد جنبلاط اضافة الى موسى لوضع أجندة تنفيذ لما يتم الاتفاق عليه في هذا الاطار


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