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The Orange Cat 04-17-2008 09:18 PM
Will Lebanon become part of Saudi Arabia?!!!!
 
i found this article very alarming. imagine if what's written in it comes true!!!!!! :o

ماذا لو انهزمت المعارضة اللبنانية؟ http://www.tayyar.org/img/logos/tayyar.gif 17 نيسان 2008 منذ مدة والحكم الموالي للاميركيين والسعوديين- باعلامييه وسياسييه- يطلقون على المعارضة اللبنانية صفة التعطيل ويتهمونها بعرقلة وشل المؤسسات الدستورية وشل الحركة الاقتصادية اللبنانية بواسطة الاعتصام الرمزي القائم على مواقف السيارات في وسط بيروت ويصفونها بأبشع نعوت العمالة والتخوين والتمحور.
وفي ظل التشنج في العلاقات العربية العربية، يبدو ان الموالين لا يخجلون من ولائهم للسعودية، بل ويطلبون منها المساعدة على الحل في لبنان، بل ان احد الموالين تبجح بأن السعودية تدفع نصف ثروتها لئلا تسمح للمعارضة بالحصول على الثلث الضامن في الحكم. لماذا تُدفع كل هذه الاموال؟ وما الاستفادة المباشرة للسعودية وما ستجنيه من بذل هذه الاموال الطائلة؟ وكيف سيكون شكل الحل المقترح والمدفوع الثمن من قبل السعودية؟
لعل قراءة للواقع اللبناني من منظار موضوعي وواقعي، يجعلنا نلاحظ ان دخول السعودية على خط الحلول في لبنان بدأ منذ عقود عدة، ولكنه تجلى بشكل واضح في اتفاق الطائف وما يليه.
في اتفاق الطائف الذي رعته السعودية وكانت عرابته- وعلى ما قيل ان النواب وصلوا الى الطائف ليجدوا وثيقة مكتوبة لم يستيطعوا تغيير فاصلة فيها- نلاحظ ان النهج السعودي المتبع كان ضرباً لأسس التوافق والشراكة اللبنانية وخاصة بسحب الصلاحيات من رئيس الجمهورية واعطائها لرئيس الحكومة .
واذا كان الوجود السوري في لبنان خلال عقد التسعينات أقام توازناً بين السلطات وجمّل الطائف وجعله يظهر فقط ان السلطات فقدت القدرة على السير بدون حَكَم، فان السنوات التي تلت الانسحاب السوري من لبنان جعلت الطائف السعودي يظهر على حقيقته المرّة الا وهي تهميش كل الطوائف والمجموعات الدينية والسياسية، ونفوذ مطلق للسنية السياسية المتمثلة بآل الحريري. وهذا ما لاحظناه جلياً عندما استطاعت حكومة السنيورة خلال سنتين ونصف من ان تحكم البلاد بدون رئيس جمهورية، اي ان الطائف السعودي جعل من رئيس الجمهورية اللبنانية يتحول من "رمز للدولة اللبنانية وناطق باسمها" الى "حارس" على قصر بعبدا.
وهكذا فان التهميش الذي شهدناه خلال ولاية الرئيس لحود الثانية، واغتصاب الصلاحيات بعد انتهاء عهده ومغادرته قصر بعبدا، يبين ان الحكومة استطاعت الحكومة ان تستمر بدون رئيس جمهورية، ويبين ايضاً ان غياب الوزراء الشيعة بشكل كامل عن الحكومة لم يثن فريق السراي عن اتخاذ القرارات والمراسيم واغتصاب الصلاحيات.
اذاً، هذا هو الطائف السعودي الذي أتى في ظل توازن اقليمي عربي ونفوذ دولي يختلف عن المرحلة الراهنة في الشرق الاوسط بعد 11 أيلول وبعد الحرب الاميركية على الارهاب وبعد انهيار التوازن الاقليمي في المنطقة. فأي طائف جديد، وأي صيغة جديدة يمكن ان تفرضها السعودية على لبنان في حال تراجع المعارضة اللبنانية عن صمودها بوجه المشروع الاميركي السعودي الذي يتحضر للبنان؟ وأي حكم قد نشهده في حال استطاعت الحريرية السياسية تمرير مشاريعها التقسيمية والتوطينية بمباركة سعودية اميركية؟
يمكن ان ندرج في هذا الاطار عدة هواجس تراودنا؛ كلبنانيين تربينا على الحرية وعلى التعلق بالارض والوطن:
- توطين الفلسطينيين واسقاط حق العودة مما يريح اسرائيل، ويعدل في التركيبة الديمغرافية في لبنان.
- انتشار ظواهر جديدة ومنقحة من تنظيمات كفتح الاسلام التي تدّعي امتلاك الحقيقة المطلقة والتي تكفر الآخر أي آخر لا يؤمن بتفسيراتها للدين، حتى ولو كان من نفس المذهب الديني.
- كم الافواه وتقييد حرية الرأي والتعبير ومنع اي قلم معارض من انتقاد الحاكم الذي يدعي الحكم باسم الله، ولنا في قانون البث الفضائي العربي تجربة حية وشاهد أكيد على الديمقراطية الجديدة التي يعدون الشعوب العربية بها.
- ما الذي يمنع من ان يسري قرار اقفال المطاعم عند الساعة الحادية عشرة والنصف في بيروت الى باقي المناطق اللبنانية، تمهيداً لاقفال تام للمقاهي والمطاعم التي لا تلاءم بيئة "الامارة الوهابية"؟
- ما الذي يمنع من ان ينتشر المطاوعين في لبنان بعد ان يسيطر النهج السعودي الوهابي؟ وهكذا تصبح سيدات لبنان الرائدات في مجالات العلوم والسياسة والاعلام والطب وغيره عرضة للملاحقة من قبل الوهابيين الذي يعتبرون المرأة "عورة".
- ما الذي يمنع من ان يستبدل قانون العقوبات اللبناني ليصبح شبيهاً بما يجري في السعودية من تقطيع الرؤوس في الساحات العامة؟
يبدو من خلال ما شهدناه من ظواهر كفتح الاسلام وغيرها ان المشروع السعودي أراد ان يسيطر على لبنان كبديلاً للنفوذ الذي خسره في العراق، والذي كان يُمني النفس به بعد الاحتلال الاميركي، لكن حساب الحقل لم يطابق حساب البيدر اذ لم تستطع قوات الاحتلال الاميركية ان تستأصل النفوذ الايراني المتمادي في العراق بسبب التركيبة السكانية المذهبية، لذلك تحولوا الى تهجير المسيحيين . وما يجري في لبنان اليوم من تيئيس للشعب اللبناني واطالة حكم الفراغ لاستمرار السنيورة في تسلطه على الحكم وتجويع منظم للشعب ما هو الا بهدف تركيعه و تهجيره بغية تغيير هوية الارض وهوية قاطنيها تمهيداً لاقامة سيطرة وهابية شبيهة بالسعودية.
لذلك فان الاصوات تعلو للاعلان عن هواجسنا وعن خوفنا على لبنان ككل، فلبنان لم يقم الا على التعدد، وأثبتت الايام والتاريخ الطويل ان الشعب اللبناني يلفظ اي حاكم مستبد، وانه لا يقبل بحكم العائلة. فحاذروا غضب الشعب واتعظوا من تجربة اوروبا الشرقية في التسعينات من القرن الماضي
ليلى نقولا الرحباني

Gilgamesh 04-18-2008 04:31 AM
Re: will Lebanon become part of Saudi Arabia????
 
Great article....Some notes:

1- The article makes sense from the Saudi perspective, but why would the U.S. want a Sunni dominated Lebanon? IS it purely because it provides a better atmosphere for a possible naturalization of Palestinians refugees? I see the risk of a Sunni Lebanon with the kinda system in the Saudi Arabia on the border with Israel a risk neither Israel or the U.S. can afford on the long run...

2- Honestly I heard almost the same analysis of the Syrian-Saudi recent conflict on Al-Jazeera. Talking about an Iraq mostly Shiite controlled and a Sunni Syria with the same kinda religious system in Saudi Arabia after the Assad Dictatorship. The argument is plausible and..scary!

3- The role of Iran is undermined in the article or actually not mentioned at all. The cold war in Iraq between Saudi Arabia and Iran is too obvious not to be mentioned. The same conflict between the two with representatives of their sects in Lebanon is also too obvious not to be noted in the article. 9/11 gave a rise to extreme religious evangelism in the area with money being spent like never before in the connection with political religion. Certainly a wave of extreme religious ideas has swept the intellectual field in the area and ppl are getting more extreme with their ideas when we compare them with the ideas they had in the 80's mostly...

xcoder 04-18-2008 05:43 AM
Re: will Lebanon become part of Saudi Arabia????
 
Buying land by tens of Jordanians Palestinian origins, Hariri daddy bought Beirut itself, brought debt like hell to the country to put us under pressure and accept the neutralization of the Palestinians in return of removing a big part of the debt.
No place for democracy in the country, more than 1 million person went to the street and the KSA toy didn't bother himself to move his butt 1cm from the chair.
Let's just hope we don't enter in another new civil war in a second attempt to neutralize the Palestinians in Lebanon.
Honestly, the only thing to finish this is to start calling to remove the Palestinian camps and send those people back to Palestine or KSA since it has more resources and can fund such big projects and mainly because Lebanon is over populated.
They're calling to remove Hizbullah weapons while they don't mention anything about the Palestinian untouchable camps that coasted us more than 160 LA few months ago.
Enjoy driving cars girls, soon such act will be illegal lol.

The Orange Cat 04-18-2008 04:28 PM
Re: will Lebanon become part of Saudi Arabia????
 
no offense to any1, but christians of lebanon r hard to control, that's why they want them oppressed n try hard to decrease their number here. so having a saudi-like lebanon would benefit usa n israel + lebanon will almost be the only "arab" country fighting israel so if they would make this country like their saudi allies, i don't think they would hesitate.
personally, i don't see a civil war but rather a war launched again by israel, usa n arab "brother and sister" countries to destroy more parts of the country, make the ppl poorer n try to place palestinians here in return of money which is of course, removing the debt n buying more lands from lebanese ppl, mostly christians who will become desperate n want to leave the country. heik they would have a country for palestinians, israel would have its country wel lebanese will be spread all around the world, but with no country

TAREKŪ 04-18-2008 04:35 PM
Re: will Lebanon become part of Saudi Arabia????
 
I think thats what Sa3ed and company objectives, and we have the perfect men to face up to them, si highly doubt that the oposition will fail...

l3ama ba3ed na2is KSA tejeh te7talna, if Isreal failed I dont think KSA will succed ;)

-t-o-n-y- 04-18-2008 04:54 PM
Re: will Lebanon become part of Saudi Arabia????
 
well i didn't read all the article but i'll answer the question.....
1st saudi arabia is controlled by usa then what are the benefits of doing a sunnit regime in lebanon?! there's no benefits and there will be more pressure on israel .........so no i don't think this will happen and 2nd this will make stronger the sunnits in syria and this might lead to a revolution in syria against its regime that have an "ettife2" with israel .....and this will lead to a sunnit regime also in syria and there will be also more pressure on israel....so they want to keep the lebanese situation like this ...no war no peace....if there wil be a war it'll be with israel but not a civil war until there's a solution to the "share2 awsat" situation .....

SysTaMatIcS 04-18-2008 05:40 PM
Re: will Lebanon become part of Saudi Arabia????
 
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Originally Posted by -t-o-n-y- (Post 131414)
well i didn't read all the article but i'll answer the question.....
1st saudi arabia is controlled by usa then what are the benefits of doing a sunnit regime in lebanon?! there's no benefits and there will be more pressure on israel .........so no i don't think this will happen and 2nd this will make stronger the sunnits in syria and this might lead to a revolution in syria against its regime that have an "ettife2" with israel .....and this will lead to a sunnit regime also in syria and there will be also more pressure on israel....so they want to keep the lebanese situation like this ...no war no peace....if there wil be a war it'll be with israel but not a civil war until there's a solution to the "share2 awsat" situation .....
Lol are you serious??? more than 80% of the lebanese sunnists are worst than the jews rite now lool , israel would be happy with a lebanese sunnist regime :)

Gilgamesh 04-18-2008 06:07 PM
Re: will Lebanon become part of Saudi Arabia????
 
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Originally Posted by The Orange Cat (Post 131406)
no offense to any1, but christians of lebanon r hard to control, that's why they want them oppressed n try hard to decrease their number here. so having a saudi-like lebanon would benefit usa n israel + lebanon will almost be the only "arab" country fighting israel so if they would make this country like their saudi allies, i don't think they would hesitate.
personally, i don't see a civil war but rather a war launched again by israel, usa n arab "brother and sister" countries to destroy more parts of the country, make the ppl poorer n try to place palestinians here in return of money which is of course, removing the debt n buying more lands from lebanese ppl, mostly christians who will become desperate n want to leave the country. heik they would have a country for palestinians, israel would have its country wel lebanese will be spread all around the world, but with no country

No offense but it seems that you forgot the civil war. Remember the civil war when Israel and the U.S put all their trust in the Christian right to :
1- Limit the expansion of power of Palestinians that moved from Jordan to Lebanon.
2- Limit the foreseen insurgence of Lebanese shiites against a system in which they were undermined. Naturally that insurgence will have to be militant in nature and therefore create an even more dangerous Nortern Border for Israel.
3- Limit a very promising "Lebanese Socialism" which was almost anonymously agreed on among the Lebanese Left.

And now after all that and all of a sudden, their goal became isolating Christians and creating an extremist Sunni Lebanon? Why? What changed?
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Originally Posted by -t-o-n-y- (Post 131414)
well i didn't read all the article but i'll answer the question.....
1st saudi arabia is controlled by usa then what are the benefits of doing a sunnit regime in lebanon?! there's no benefits and there will be more pressure on israel .........so no i don't think this will happen and 2nd this will make stronger the sunnits in syria and this might lead to a revolution in syria against its regime that have an "ettife2" with israel .....and this will lead to a sunnit regime also in syria and there will be also more pressure on israel....so they want to keep the lebanese situation like this ...no war no peace....if there wil be a war it'll be with israel but not a civil war until there's a solution to the "share2 awsat" situation .....

Except for the sentence in red, the rest is kinda true. As for the sentence in red, Saudi Arabia is affected by the United States yet it is not occupation. If the United States could really interfere that much in Saudi affairs we would have seen different behavior by the Saudis on all issues. Saudi are Wahhabbis who by nature are Muslims of Evangelical attitudes. No U.S. can stop them from trying to create Islamic Regimes( sunni in particular)....I say "trying". The U.S. , and others, can stop them from succeeding though.

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Originally Posted by SysTaMatIcS (Post 131425)
Lol are you serious??? more than 80% of the lebanese sunnists are worst than the jews rite now lool , israel would be happy with a lebanese sunnist regime :)
Exactly, it is RIGHT NOT. But none can guarantee an extreme Sunni regime.

Personally I think Lebanon is perfect for Israel as it is. Torn apart with secterian differences, financially and economically weak (and thus never can survive independently without support from countries who are allies with Israel).

-t-o-n-y- 04-18-2008 09:22 PM
Re: will Lebanon become part of Saudi Arabia????
 
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Originally Posted by SysTaMatIcS (Post 131425)
Lol are you serious??? more than 80% of the lebanese sunnists are worst than the jews rite now lool , israel would be happy with a lebanese sunnist regime :)
no no no!! the sunnit regime will lead to form "terrorist" groups enno "mettarfin" so this will affecte israel a lot......

SysTaMatIcS 04-19-2008 12:14 PM
Re: will Lebanon become part of Saudi Arabia????
 
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Originally Posted by -t-o-n-y- (Post 131463)
no no no!! the sunnit regime will lead to form "terrorist" groups enno "mettarfin" so this will affecte israel a lot......
Dude look at the sunnist radicals " mettarfin " alqaeda and fath l islam , are they firing ONE bullet at israel?? they have an ideology , that is kill the christians and the shiites ,control our countries , create one islamic nation , then we can attack israel , anyway a sunnist regime in lebanon = A consuming society , cuz al-hareeri controls the sunnist , and will turn lebanon into a company , any terrorist organizations that will develop will look forward for " cleaning " the country... Not attackin israel..

-t-o-n-y- 04-19-2008 12:25 PM
Re: will Lebanon become part of Saudi Arabia????
 
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Originally Posted by SysTaMatIcS (Post 131532)
Dude look at the sunnist radicals " mettarfin " alqaeda and fath l islam , are they firing ONE bullet at israel?? they have an ideology , that is kill the christians and the shiites ,control our countries , create one islamic nation , then we can attack israel , anyway a sunnist regime in lebanon = A consuming society , cuz al-hareeri controls the sunnist , and will turn lebanon into a company , any terrorist organizations that will develop will look forward for " cleaning " the country... Not attackin israel..
red part.....yeah so don't you consider this a threat to israel?!?!
black part .....the palestinians wich are against israel they'll "y2awo 7aloun" in lebanon then threaten israel and with a sunnit regime this will be more easy to them cuz now there's HA "" against"" them that means ""controlling"" the south.......so with a sunnit regime it'll be more easy for them.....2nd you didn't answer the part of the syrian regime wich might see a revolution against him by sunnit cuz they're the majority and mad3oumin from the sunnit regime here in lebanon and that's also a big problem for israel and USA...........

SysTaMatIcS 04-19-2008 12:47 PM
Re: will Lebanon become part of Saudi Arabia????
 
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Originally Posted by -t-o-n-y- (Post 131535)
red part.....yeah so don't you consider this a threat to israel?!?!
black part .....the palestinians wich are against israel they'll "y2awo 7aloun" in lebanon then threaten israel and with a sunnit regime this will be more easy to them cuz now there's HA "" against"" them that means ""controlling"" the south.......so with a sunnit regime it'll be more easy for them.....2nd you didn't answer the part of the syrian regime wich might see a revolution against him by sunnit cuz they're the majority and mad3oumin from the sunnit regime here in lebanon and that's also a big problem for israel and USA...........
i answered and said the LEBANESE sunnists , wat u said abt the syrian sunnists is true , " al ikhwan al mosolmeen " are the ones who really represent the syrians , and they r not radicals , they believe in democracy and accepting the others , but for sure they will cause a threat to israel , and getting al goolan back , is one of their main goals , if they reach the power , which i hope that they can O_o, 2nd abt the sunnists in lebanon , maybe and maybe not , saad , as a the sunnist leader in lebanon , wont accept any bullet fired from the south at israel , he will probably protect the borders with 10,000s of soldiers , he just wants lebanon as a peacfull quite market for his products ...

-t-o-n-y- 04-19-2008 12:56 PM
Re: will Lebanon become part of Saudi Arabia????
 
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Originally Posted by SysTaMatIcS (Post 131540)
i answered and said the LEBANESE sunnists , wat u said abt the syrian sunnists is true , " al ikhwan al mosolmeen " are the ones who really represent the syrians , and they r not radicals , they believe in democracy and accepting the others , but for sure they will cause a threat to israel , and getting al goolan back , is one of their main goals , if they reach the power , which i hope that they can O_o, 2nd abt the sunnists in lebanon , maybe and maybe not , saad , as a the sunnist leader in lebanon , wont accept any bullet fired from the south at israel , he will probably protect the borders with 10,000s of soldiers , he just wants lebanon as a peacfull quite market for his products ...
u said he want it peacfull well the main goal of israel and USA is to keep lebanon weak as i said before ..... not in peace and not in a civil war ........so if lebanon as u said will be peacfull with saad l hariri then the economical situation will be good because of the arabs .....and that will affect a lot israel especially its economical situation so that's why there won't be a sunnit regime in lebanon cuz USA and israel 3am yestafido from the weakness of lebanon and its bad economical situation so israel wants lebanon to be like weak and divided and especially enno every part represent a religion or part of a religion......enno not a political division.....

SysTaMatIcS 04-19-2008 01:09 PM
Re: will Lebanon become part of Saudi Arabia????
 
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Originally Posted by -t-o-n-y- (Post 131541)
u said he want it peacefull well the main goal of israel and USA is to keep lebanon weak as i said before ..... not in peace and not in a civil war ........so if lebanon as u said will be peacfull with saad l hariri then the economical situation will be good because of the arabs .....and that will affect a lot israel especially its economical situation so that's why there won't be a sunnit regime in lebanon cuz USA and israel 3am yestafido from the weakness of lebanon and its bad economical situation so israel wants lebanon to be like weak and divided and especially enno every part represent a religion or part of a religion......enno not a political division.....
who said peacefull = good economics?? i also said that he wants it to be a market , that means he just wonna sell and get profit , put huge taxis , " 5as5asit " everything , everything will be expensive , and the normal citizen all he can do is PAY PAY PAY , they say that who gets somethin will want more , this goes for hareeri , 6 billion $ w mish shab3en ;)

-t-o-n-y- 04-19-2008 01:14 PM
Re: will Lebanon become part of Saudi Arabia????
 
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Originally Posted by SysTaMatIcS (Post 131542)
who said peacefull = good economics?? i also said that he wants it to be a market , that means he just wonna sell and get profit , put huge taxis , " 5as5asit " everything , everything will be expensive , and the normal citizen all he can do is PAY PAY PAY , they say that who gets somethin will want more , this goes for hareeri , 6 billion $ w mish shab3en ;)
peacefull lebanon = arabs comming more and more and putting their money here = good economics.........

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put huge taxis
i think you meant taxes :p

abousoun 04-19-2008 01:45 PM
Re: will Lebanon become part of Saudi Arabia????
 
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Originally Posted by athegan (Post 131433)
And now after all that and all of a sudden, their goal became isolating Christians and creating an extremist Sunni Lebanon? Why? What changed?)
It's not an all of a sudden attitude, coz a big change happened in the christian street after the come back of GMA (who is frankly opposing USA politics in Lebanon) ... USA wasn't customed before to such a strong christian - shiite alliance (majority of christians and shiites), that's why it's for her benifit to strengthn the sunnite regime in Lebanon ...
but as you continued on the long run a sunnite regimen on the northn borders of occupied palestine won't be that beneficial for Israel, unless they already know that and a new cook will be prepared ...
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Originally Posted by athegan (Post 131433)
Personally I think Lebanon is perfect for Israel as it is. Torn apart with secterian differences, financially and economically weak (and thus never can survive independently without support from countries who are allies with Israel).
Yeah i agree for both Israel and USA ...

Thank You ...

SysTaMatIcS 04-19-2008 01:50 PM
Re: will Lebanon become part of Saudi Arabia????
 
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Originally Posted by -t-o-n-y- (Post 131544)
peacefull lebanon = arabs comming more and more and putting their money here = good economics.........


i think you meant taxes :p

yes taxes :p , i dont think that ur getting me , in a corrupt state , weather its peacefull or not , only the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer and thts wat will happen >> BAD economics , but good for the rich ... arabs putting their money where?? in the rich men's pockets for sure , not our pockets...

-t-o-n-y- 04-19-2008 02:00 PM
Re: will Lebanon become part of Saudi Arabia????
 
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Originally Posted by SysTaMatIcS (Post 131550)
yes taxes :p , i dont think that ur getting me , in a corrupt state , weather its peacefull or not , only the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer and thts wat will happen >> BAD economics , but good for the rich ... arabs putting their money where?? in the rich men's pockets for sure , not our pockets...[/b]
let suppose that it'll be a curropt state and the rich will get richer and........
but lebanon will be in peace that means arabs will come and invest their money in lebanon .....putting their money in our banks .......and if the rich men's are the ones that are "7ekmin" then yeah lebanon economical situation will be good.....that doesn't mean that all people are rich and having enough money to live and there's no poor people but that means that there's money in lebanon in lebanese banks so this will lead to raise the number of tourism .....and make lebanon like a place where arabs come for tourism...so lebanon won't be weak anymore

SysTaMatIcS 04-19-2008 02:59 PM
Re: will Lebanon become part of Saudi Arabia????
 
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Originally Posted by -t-o-n-y- (Post 131552)
let suppose that it'll be a curropt state and the rich will get richer and........
but lebanon will be in peace that means arabs will come and invest their money in lebanon .....putting their money in our banks .......and if the rich men's are the ones that are "7ekmin" then yeah lebanon economical situation will be good.....that doesn't mean that all people are rich and having enough money to live and there's no poor people but that means that there's money in lebanon in lebanese banks so this will lead to raise the number of tourism .....and make lebanon like a place where arabs come for tourism...so lebanon won't be weak anymore
dude , u have alot of faith in capitalism :p

Gilgamesh 04-19-2008 05:27 PM
Re: will Lebanon become part of Saudi Arabia????
 
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Originally Posted by abousoun (Post 131548)
It's not an all of a sudden attitude, coz a big change happened in the christian street after the come back of GMA (who is frankly opposing USA politics in Lebanon) ... USA wasn't customed before to such a strong christian - shiite alliance (majority of christians and shiites), that's why it's for her benifit to strengthn the sunnite regime in Lebanon ...
but as you continued on the long run a sunnite regimen on the northn borders of occupied palestine won't be that beneficial for Israel, unless they already know that and a new cook will be prepared ...
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Yeah i agree for both Israel and USA ...

Thank You ...
Exactly...A coherent regime, ideologically, strengthens a country ( I have to admit this altho I oppose it since it always eventually crushes the rights of minorities). So temporary allies and temporary swing of electoral powers is the best way for Israel. But I mean Israel or no Israel, thats the only way Lebanon can be if you look at its demographic make-up...

Peace

Kain 04-19-2008 10:23 PM
Re: will Lebanon become part of Saudi Arabia????
 
Well this is how it goes):

KSA needs more control in the middle east...clearly for its own interests, so they sought after irak at first
Seeing as the resistance in irak is primarily a shiite resistance because the U.S succeeded in creating sunni-sunni conflicts, and since the iraki regime, with all it defects is governed mostly by shiites, Saudi Arabia can't do anything there.
Where can it go?? Egypt?? Jordan?? hell no.
Yemen?? No they have conflicts with yemen.
It's only natural that they would go for the easy target, the area in which it has allies: Lebanon and Syria.
KSA seeks to overthrow the syrian regime and is using its puppets in lebanon to stop any progress that syria's allies can make in an effort to corner syria.
They want syria and they want it at any price, no matter what the cost. And that's where all the money is going right now.

Clearly with such a firm attitude from the opposition saudis aren't going anywhere in leb.
Though they are finding progress in funding a future coup d'etat against Bashar...):

flamenguita 04-22-2008 12:22 PM
Re: will Lebanon become part of Saudi Arabia????
 
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