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RAM BÓY™ 09-20-2008 07:42 AM

Economic Situation
 
تحذيرات من انهيار شامل للنظام المالي الأميركي. خطة إنقاذ اقتصادية بمئات المليارات تتبناها إدارة بوش


TAREK® 09-20-2008 11:29 AM

Re: انهيار الاقتصاد الأميركي
 
الفشل من إدارة فاشلة

M|ch 09-20-2008 01:08 PM

Re: انهيار الاقتصاد الأميركي
 
i duno why ur happy , but we are a dollarised country here , and this will have an effect on us also.

SysTaMatIcS 09-20-2008 01:10 PM

Re: انهيار الاقتصاد الأميركي
 
yeh , the we should de-dolarize , and turn into a communist country , the only countries who survived the big depression in 1929 , were the communist countries ;) , and wer going to a much much worse case than 1929

TAREK® 09-20-2008 01:14 PM

Re: انهيار الاقتصاد الأميركي
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by M|ch (Post 152953)
i duno why ur happy , but we are a dollarised country here , and this will have an effect on us also.

who is happy? ): all I said ino its failure made by bunch of losers thats all ):

M|ch 09-20-2008 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by King Of Kings (Post 152956)
who is happy? ): all I said ino its failure made by bunch of losers thats all ):

not u rAm boy with the :D


communism O_o

capitalism all the way O_o

SysTaMatIcS 09-20-2008 01:36 PM

Re: انهيار الاقتصاد الأميركي
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by M|ch (Post 152957)
not u rAm boy with the :D


communism O_o

capitalism all the way O_o

lol fine stay a capitalist , remember me when u fall and i fall with u , in this capitalist country , im goin to live in either cuba or china . these are the countries that will rule the world after the collapse of the us

Sogelec 09-20-2008 03:05 PM

Re: انهيار الاقتصاد الأميركي
 
China is doing fine these days
they are planning to be the world's Biggest economy for the coming 40 Years
Sha3eb 3m befaker..w 3m be2aled lool

M|ch 09-20-2008 10:17 PM

Re: انهيار الاقتصاد الأميركي
 
^^^

china has one of the strongest economy in the World, but look at the People fe2r w te3tir majority are poor.

rich gvt poor ppl , this is communism

SysTaMatIcS 09-21-2008 12:46 AM

Re: انهيار الاقتصاد الأميركي
 
Wrong , rich goverment , satisfied people , that is communism .

TAREK® 09-21-2008 12:59 AM

Re: انهيار الاقتصاد الأميركي
 
واشنطن تدفع الف مليار دولار لمحاولة منع انهيار اقتصادها

tayyar.org

mr_j 09-26-2008 08:46 PM

Re: انهيار الاقتصاد الأميركي
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SysTaMatIcS (Post 153018)
Wrong , rich goverment , satisfied people , that is communism .

this is why comunism failed, because it was never able to achieve both wealth and satisfied people

Quote:

واشنطن تدفع الف مليار دولار لمحاولة منع انهيار اقتصادها


they spent trillions on iraq, a few billions now should not be a problem

SysTaMatIcS 09-26-2008 09:55 PM

Re: انهيار الاقتصاد الأميركي
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_j (Post 153605)
this is why comunism failed, because it was never able to achieve both wealth and satisfied people



they spent trillions on iraq, a few billions now should not be a problem

and do u see capitalism succeeding?? , u cant say that communism failed , cuz of a country mis-applied it and broke down , when u apply it in the right way , ull have perfection .

mr_j 09-26-2008 10:04 PM

Re: انهيار الاقتصاد الأميركي
 
well do you call china a success?
the chinese leader is classified among the top 3 of the cruelest leaders in the world
and human right abuse is everywhere

SysTaMatIcS 09-26-2008 10:34 PM

Re: انهيار الاقتصاد الأميركي
 
wer talking theoretically , the chinese regime is not a communist regime.

mr_j 09-26-2008 10:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SysTaMatIcS (Post 153631)
wer talking theoretically , the chinese regime is not a communist regime.

I thought they were ):

anyway anything in theory is good
monarchy is not good? if you have a fair king and all
it can even be better than democracy
if we had a one person rule in lebanon for example that was fair, we wouldn't have had all these messes

but theories don't cut it

you need to see what was the most succesful regimes

getryne 09-30-2008 05:37 PM

Re: انهيار الاقتصاد الأميركي
 
watever regimes r in the US china or france, the most important is wat kind of system should be used b libnen, well u should watch how that's gonna affect our great economy built by US dollar blocks, nd foreign duties..... small comparison between the smart lebneniyyi nd those dumb syrians living beside our borders nd having wat they call that dirty ugly syrian currency, well in syria if u even deal with a dollar ur busted, ur a criminal. bt in liben when u deal with a lebanese lira,(7aram m3attar ma ma3o yekol)nd when u deal with a dollar ur a businessman,maybe now u will feel how u treated ur poor dumb currency nd hailed 4 that great dollar comin from amerka.... love that dollar more nd more cze mn l7ob ma qatal......

SysTaMatIcS 09-30-2008 06:37 PM

Re: انهيار الاقتصاد الأميركي
 
lebanon should switch to euro asap . the $ is goin to collapse sooner or later.

TAREK® 09-30-2008 06:55 PM

Re: انهيار الاقتصاد الأميركي
 
بوش يدعو الكونغرس مجددا الى تمرير خطة الانقاذ المالي

el nashra

SysTaMatIcS 10-11-2008 09:43 AM

Re: انهيار الاقتصاد الأميركي
 
i think that capitalism and the free market issue have proved their failure .

jak 10-13-2008 03:15 PM

Re: انهيار الاقتصاد الأميركي
 
Wall Street is snapping back from last week's devastating losses on growing hopes the stock market will finally find some footing. Investors are cautiously optimistic after the Bush administration and European governments pledged coordinated actions to help the crippled financial system. The Treasury has said it plans to buy U.S. bank stocks.

Jess 10-24-2008 10:49 AM

Re: انهيار الاقتصاد الأميركي
 
ثلاثة امراء خليجيين خسروا في الأزمة المالية الأخيرة نحو ثمانية مليارات دولار أميركي.

(السفير)

The Lizard King 10-24-2008 09:53 PM

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Im not a financial expert but i have a logical theorie in my head about this crisis.
i guess that world war III just started and this time its a financial war, if you noticed that the english pound was stable for the past 10 years and the Euro was overcoming the Dollar and the japanese Yen was always ahead of the american dollar and in the past 5 years china was leading in industry and manufacturing even in 2005 china revalued its currency higher against the dollar. and if you noticed how the fuel price raised which made the arabic countries even richer, while USA was stealing Iraq fuel and falling in the mud of terrorist war they wanted something to turn american citizens eyes from the war losses. As they did in 9/11 and they bombed the WTC; this time they needed something less painfull so they screwed their financial regime which led to a disaster in the whole word. Euro, Yen, Pound, Yuan.... all world currencies decreased, most important companies in europe japan and the arabic world were suffering from bankruptcy....
now what the usa did, they were pumping money from all over the world and specially from jews lik even arabic countries gave billions. and im sure that directly after the US elections everything will be back to normal and the whole world finance will stay screwed and maybe they need 10 years to get on their feet again.
P.S: the financial issue in US is la masla7et McKain w when he wins the elections i will continue my theorie.

Jess 12-10-2008 01:20 PM

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hey guys the Economical Situation is really becoming bad day by day :(

Here in Dubai, most of the real estate companies and constructions are closing... For exemple: Nakheel za3abit 550 mwazzaf till now :S

That's really bad!

mr_j 12-10-2008 01:29 PM

Re: Economic Situation
 
hey cheer up people
iza habat el dollar for example
maybe our 40 billion dollars debt bisir yeswa 1000 LL lool
am serious
the value of our debt my become small ):

Jess 12-10-2008 01:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_j (Post 161949)
hey cheer up people
iza habat el dollar for example
maybe our 40 billion dollars debt bisir yeswa 1000 LL lool
am serious
the value of our debt my become small ):

The economic situation bad b Lebanon aslan so ma ra7 yet2assar a lot.
But i am talking in the worldwide, like Dubai, KSA, Qatar, Kuwait ):

I guess soon, l mhejrin will go back to Leb lool seriously!

mr_j 12-10-2008 01:36 PM

Re: Economic Situation
 
iran néymé 3ala 7arir
aslan they stopped using US dollars since their problems started with the US lool
w aslan it seems everyone who is getting affected are our political enemies
if the US and KSA have problems, why is that a bad thing for us?

Jess 12-11-2008 06:26 AM

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Jess 12-11-2008 06:28 AM

Re: Economic Situation
 
معهد التمويل الدولي يستبعد لبنان من تأثيرات الأزمة المالية العالمية

معهد التمويل الدولي (آي.آي.إف) إن الأزمة المالية العالمية ليس لها أي تأثيرات ملحوظة مباشرة على لبنان، ولم تتقلص عائدات سندات الدين السيادية بالمعدلات ذاتها التي شهدتها الأسواق الناشئة في أكتوبر ونوفمبر 2008.

وأشار تقرير المعهد إلى أن المصارف اللبنانية لديها ارتباطات مباشرة قليلة بالأزمة المالية، مقارنة بالمصارف الأجنبية، إذ استطاع الإطار التنظيمي للقطاع المصرفي الحد من تعرض البنوك اللبنانية للأدوات المالية المركبة التي تعد أحد أبرز أسباب الأزمة العالمية.

وأضاف التقرير أن القطاع المصرفي ما زال يمتلك معدلات رسملة جيدة ونسبة سيولة عالية، وتشكل الودائع أكثر من 80 بالمئة من معدل الخصومات في المصارف، فيما يبلغ حجم الموجودات الأجنبية فيها نحو أربعة مليار دولار.

وأوضح أن حجم الودائع ارتفع بشكل منتظم، لا سيما من قبل الاغتراب اللبناني، وسجل معدل القروض على الودائع في المصارف أحد أقل المعدلات في المنطقة، عند 35 بالمئة


arabian business

SysTaMatIcS 12-11-2008 10:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_j (Post 161953)
iran néymé 3ala 7arir
aslan they stopped using US dollars since their problems started with the US lool
w aslan it seems everyone who is getting affected are our political enemies
if the US and KSA have problems, why is that a bad thing for us?

the crisis has a good reflection on lebanon as everyone is sayin.

jak 12-13-2008 02:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SysTaMatIcS (Post 162255)
the crisis has a good reflection on lebanon as everyone is sayin.

No it does not, because Lebanese people kicked from their work in Dubai, KSA or whatever country will have no other choice than going back to Lebanon. This has a lot of bad effects, most important ones are:
1- More unemployed people in Lebanon
2- Money sent from these emigrants (or working people in foreign countries) will drop as these guys lost their work
3- Any foreign company having or was willing to have any kind of investment in Lebanon or somewhere else, will think 100 times before doing this step.

As i heard, about 90 000 Lebanese will be back for good to Lebanon because of losing their job due to the economic crises...

Jess 12-13-2008 09:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SysTaMatIcS (Post 162255)
the crisis has a good reflection on lebanon as everyone is sayin.


ur totally wrong systa

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لشرق الأوسط": سوق العقارات اللبناني بدأ بالتراجع منخفضًا 30 بالمئة

Source

Once the real estate and the construction department 3m yetraja3 , it means "Alla Yestour"

-t-o-n-y- 12-13-2008 03:19 PM

Re: Economic Situation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SysTaMatIcS (Post 162255)
the crisis has a good reflection on lebanon as everyone is sayin.

no ur wrong...like JAK said the money sent by the emigrants will drop and actually that's what keeps the economic situation in lebanon good( enno bl nesbe la lebnen enno 2a7san mn machi) .... and the only thing that really btrabi7 lebnen massare is when the emigrants come in summer or christmas etc etc etc....plus the lebanese outside lebanon a lot of them lost their jobs or their salary no2iss so there must be a large number of lebanese that will return to lebanon which cause more and more unemployement....and some say that this crisis is good for lebanon because the banks in lebanon will have more money( 7sebet w massare bteje 3layoun mn douwal l 3arabye) but in what will the banks investigate those money since the economic situation wl 7ale l 2amnye aren't good....and 2nd there's a chance that ybalcho ydayno l dawle from the exess of money in banks but how the governement will pay those banks back.....

SysTaMatIcS 12-13-2008 08:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by -t-o-n-y- (Post 162418)
no ur wrong...like JAK said the money sent by the emigrants will drop and actually that's what keeps the economic situation in lebanon good( enno bl nesbe la lebnen enno 2a7san mn machi) .... and the only thing that really btrabi7 lebnen massare is when the emigrants come in summer or christmas etc etc etc....plus the lebanese outside lebanon a lot of them lost their jobs or their salary no2iss so there must be a large number of lebanese that will return to lebanon which cause more and more unemployement....and some say that this crisis is good for lebanon because the banks in lebanon will have more money( 7sebet w massare bteje 3layoun mn douwal l 3arabye) but in what will the banks investigate those money since the economic situation wl 7ale l 2amnye aren't good....and 2nd there's a chance that ybalcho ydayno l dawle from the exess of money in banks but how the governement will pay those banks back.....

Invest**
they should start giving loans to multinational companies outside of lebanon.like dubai n kuwait etc...

-t-o-n-y- 12-13-2008 10:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SysTaMatIcS (Post 162492)
Invest**
they should start giving loans to multinational companies outside of lebanon.like dubai n kuwait etc...

invest....ma twekhezna bass ma 2rit reje3et chou katabet.....:P 2nd for the loans for multinational companies in countries like dubai and etc etc they don't need loans they have enough money....2nd since the economic situation isn't good this will reduce the number of l cherak wl hek l baddoun yefta7o jdid .....and there's a lot of banks which are outside lebanon that gives loans and have better offers than the ones in here....

mr_j 12-14-2008 10:27 AM

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tab tab tab
what does that tell us about the currency? :yayi::yayi:
our bank money, lezim nchiloun men el dollar aw no ?

I have 200 $ in my bank account I don't want to lose it :hawhaw:

-t-o-n-y- 12-14-2008 11:39 AM

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^^ hi zeta eza bass 200$ :P.....but if it's a big amount of money the banks are giving feyde 3alye 3al lebnene....and there's a lot of people turning their money from $ to l.l. ....

xcoder 12-14-2008 11:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by -t-o-n-y- (Post 162544)
^^ hi zeta eza bass 200$ :P.....but if it's a big amount of money the banks are giving feyde 3alye 3al lebnene....and there's a lot of people turning their money from $ to l.l. ....

It's useless, if they're exchanging now ye3neh they already lost too much. USD will go up again same for oil because the situation ain't stable it could even go lower for several months but don't even think it will remain low.
If someone wanna play it smart he should go for CAD that was in 0.94+ and now at 0.80 and few weeks ago it was in 0.70
So imagine you have 10 cents profit for each dollar and you're playing with levarage of 10000$ that's a profit of 1000$ :D

mr_j 12-14-2008 12:03 PM

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so in short, my 200 $ in audi bank is safe? ):

currency flip flopping would be scary :( people's money and life savings are at stake :(

-t-o-n-y- 12-14-2008 04:34 PM

Re: Economic Situation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xcoder (Post 162549)
It's useless, if they're exchanging now ye3neh they already lost too much. USD will go up again same for oil because the situation ain't stable it could even go lower for several months but don't even think it will remain low.

okey bass hek 3am bessir....and for this period of time it's better and l faweyid l 3am ya3touwa are good for the l.l. ......


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