Patriotism/Terrorism
 

One man's Patriotism, is another man's Terrorism.

What Do You Think?

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"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter"
This sentence - although very true and realistic - is responsible for all the chaos in this world ...

It all comes to the point of who is making such labellings ?

The united nations don't have a clear definition for the word "terrorism" till now !!!!!! ... but we are able somehow to label who is patriotic and who is terrorist !!!

Imagine that Gandhi was considered a terrorist in the eyes of British, yet he is a hero in his own country !!!! It's up to you to choose who you want to believe ...

The more complex example is Al Qaida who were considered as freedom fighters during Ronald Reagan era, but now the same Qaida are terrorists during Bush era !!!

let's take today as an example as well, those who put the explosion in Tripoli to target the LA for sure are patriotic in the eyes of their group, w maybe they are promised by heaven in later life ... but do we look at them in the same way ? :S

and the list goes on and on and on ... and the battles go on and on and on ... and the innocents pay the price here and there and there in the name of patriotism or terrorism !!!

Thank You ...

Re: Patriotism/Terrorism
 

well as I know, and I looked it up in dictionnaries, terrorism is the act of killing unarmed civilains
based on that definition, the whole world is a terrorist :hawhaw:

now hizbollah was declared a terrorist because they were using inaccurate katyusha rockets and thus endangering unarmed "citizens" before the 2006 war, not many countries counted hizbollah as a terrorist, because he was not posing a threat to unarmed citizens till then

now this is exactly what terrorism is, killing unarmed people. the problem is that the world does not count killing unarmed lebanese as an act of terrorism from israel, or the death of iraquis by americans etc...

it is simply clear that the whole world is terrorist, but "ma 7adan bi2oul 3an zayteto 3ekrin" each side only points to the other

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Re: Patriotism/Terrorism
 

"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter"
This is true because a every freedom fighter is a terrorist. The true meaning of terrorism is the use of fear in order to reach certain political or ideological goals, whether the cause is good or evil, which is the exact same thing freedom fighters do.

Or you can use the American definition of the word, which is Terrorist = Anti-US/Israel.

What do you guys think??

I still stick to what I said 2 years ago, terrorism is the act of killing unarmed civilians

I will add by saying I am against killing any unarmed person, regardless of who they are what their political religious views are etc... and I am strictly against the murder of young children, these should be universal standards.

Terrorism isnt just attacking unarmed civilians, it could also be attacking the local army to achieve personal benefits in the name of patriotism and religion ( Fateh El Islam is the biggest example)

Then do we have the right to launch rockets on Israelis seeing as they have constantly attacked and massacred our civilians for more than 30 years now?

ideally, no :P human life is not scores or points
"ataloulna wa7ad lezem ne2tellon wa7ad" every human is unique, and one human should not pay with his life for the mistake of another human

some people feel ashamed that hizbollah did not kill as many israeli civilains as israel kileld lebanese, I consider the opposite, I am proud that most of the israelis hizbollah killed were soldiers, in fact, it seemed as if hizbollah intentionnaly avoided israeli civilain casualties by not using concentrated rocket fire on one village(if for example they concentrated 100 rockets a day on one village they would have killed more than by sending one rocket to each village every 3 to 6 hours, giving people the chance to run away" and hizbollah warned the villages they were going to strike ahead of time

here is something that has been on my mind for about a year and I never mentioned it :$ samir el kuntar broke into the palestinian borders and killed a child and her father, is this really something we want to encourage and be proud of? does it really help our image with the international community? or help us win the war? did the 4 year old really deserve to die for beign born on the wrogn side of the border?

edit: note, the missiles launched by hizbollah had the primary purpose of crippling the north of israel by forcing migration, not to kill civilains, which is why I am not against it :P

Wouldn't that make us like them?


The way I see it there are two kinds of patriots.

The first kind is the kind that says "my country is the best in the world" (even though the electricity get's cut every two hours), "we are the best people in the world" (even though we've been butchering each other for the past I don't know how many years) and I'll kill every one who tries to challenge that. (This is the dumb kind)

The second kind is the kind that really cares about the country, the kind that realizes what problems the country and it's people have so they can be fixed. And cares about the way the country will be remembered in history. (This is the smarter kind)

So if a guy kills your family, is it OK for you to kill half of his family?

Not to butt in:p...But don't you think the comparison is a little off? I mean you're comparing a war between two countries to plain old murder.

edit: i'll open a thread in the political so we don't go off topic.

Why isn't killing Israeli civilians murder? Is it because we are special? Or is it because God is on our side? lool

Ask HA supporter who is SHN.
Then go to Israel and ask some one on the street.

Another example. Some ppl are constantly telling that Stalin was a unruly killer, terrorist, usurper and more. Others say (like me) that he was a leader who wan WW2 and made a lot of things that made our country one of the most strongest in the world. But the truth is that both sides say right things. They just focus on different aspects