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Jess 01-20-2009 08:35 AM

Relationship/Marriage
 
My friends and i were debating about this issue, and i thought of taking your opinion :)

Would you stay in a relationship with someone if you knew it wouldn't lead to marriage?

Share wit's us :)

Regards,

xcoder 01-20-2009 08:44 AM

Re: Relationship/Marriage
 
Yes of course, marriage is not a target, it's an agreement between the 2 partners.
Myself, i don't plan to get married before 33-35 years old i just find it not right to do it earlier.

Sheriff Ice 01-20-2009 09:08 AM

Re: Relationship/Marriage
 
yes sure, for me marriage isn't the target of a relation sometimes we get married, sometimes not.
some strong relations doesn't lead to marriage that's normal.

Here, in our society they always expect that marriage is a must and every relation should end up with marriage.

I do not have that view, i do not aim to get married if it happened at a moment than its ok, if not who cares :p

Gilgamesh 01-20-2009 09:51 AM

Re: Relationship/Marriage
 
Any relationship that has no prospect of becoming a serious long term relationship is a waste of time...Humans have short lives and never much time to lose

majousseh 01-20-2009 02:40 PM

Re: Relationship/Marriage
 
je suis tout à fait d'accord avec deatheganized. c pas obligatoire bien sure que chaque relation aboutisse au marriage. mais toute relation basée sur l'amour, et qui n'a pas une perspective ( ce que je ne trouve pas logique) est une aberration.

Bambina 01-20-2009 03:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by majousseh (Post 168955)
je suis tout à fait d'accord avec deatheganized. c pas obligatoire bien sure que chaque relation aboutisse au marriage. mais toute relation basée sur l'amour, et qui n'a pas du perspective ( ce que je ne trouve pas logique) est une aberration.

Je ne suis pas d'accord sur la notion de "perte de temps".

A mon avis il faut pas penser a autre chose que le present.

Peut-etre que j'aime bien la personne et que notre relation est basee sur un amour tres intense et on veut bien etre ensemble, mais en meme temps je suis encore tres jeune pour m'engager dans des projets-futurs qui demandent un maximum de responsabilite et des circonstances differentes qui ne sont pas disponibles en ce moment, dois-je quitter cette personne pour de telles raisons? Pourquoi ne pas penser uniquement au present et laisser le futur pour le futur? Qui sait ce qui va se passer plus tard? Peut-etre qu'on se mettera d'accord pour plannifier une perspective, ou aussi on pourrait decider le contraire et chacun fera sa vie. Dans les 2 cas je ne trouve pas qu'il y a eu une perte de temps tout au long de la relation, au contraire il y a eu partage, experience, souvenirs, fraternite, entente... Pour cela il vaut mieux ne pas y penser et laisser les choses venir toutes seules, sinon on ne fera jamais rien dans la vie.

Kain 01-20-2009 05:30 PM

Re: Relationship/Marriage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambina (Post 168964)
Je ne suis pas d'accord sur la notion de "perte de temps".

A mon avis il faut pas penser a autre chose que le present.

Peut-etre que j'aime bien la personne et que notre relation est basee sur un amour tres intense et on veut bien etre ensemble, mais en meme temps je suis encore tres jeune pour m'engager dans des projets-futurs qui demandent un maximum de responsabilite et des circonstances differentes qui ne sont pas disponibles en ce moment, dois-je quitter cette personne pour de telles raisons? Pourquoi ne pas penser uniquement au present et laisser le futur pour le futur? Qui sait ce qui va se passer plus tard? Peut-etre qu'on se mettera d'accord pour plannifier une perspective, ou aussi on pourrait decider le contraire et chacun fera sa vie. Dans les 2 cas je ne trouve pas qu'il y a eu une perte de temps tout au long de la relation, au contraire il y a eu partage, experience, souvenirs, fraternite, entente... Pour cela il vaut mieux ne pas y penser et laisser les choses venir toutes seules, sinon on ne fera jamais rien dans la vie.

Mais il est aussi necessaire que les 2 se mettent d'accord sur des sujets en relation avec le futur...
Je ne suis pas totalement contre ce que vous venez de dire...mais le futur est aussi important et une relation sans perspective ou un certain plan est une perte de temps...
Si cette relation pourra etre une relation a longue duree ou pourra meme aboutir au mariage...alors on pourra vivre le jour au jour...

You can't spend all ur time looking towards the future of the relationship or you'll miss out on the present...
But then again if you focus too much on the present you'll either lose sight of the future or lead a meaningless relationship...you need planning.

xcoder 01-20-2009 09:09 PM

Re: Relationship/Marriage
 
Vous vous trompez dans la facon de repondre a la question, c'est surement pas une perte de temps de ne pas se marier de la personne que vous aimez. actuellement. A notre epoque, se marier n'est plus a la mode comme on avait autre fois pour regreter apres quelques annees.

C'est une veritable responsabilite qu'il faut prendre en compte et ne pas nous lancer dans l'inconnu simplement pour le fait qu'on ai amoureux de telle personne.
Je parle initialement des jeunes de notres ages qui viennent de decouvir la vie de responsabilite et du futur.

Desole de partir hors sujet, mais on ne peut pas simplement eliminer des facteur si important pour prouver que l'amour est eternel ce qui ne l'ai pas malheuresement, la preuve c'est qu'on aime plusieurs fois tout au long de notre vie.

C'est un petit exemple que le mariage n'est pas un option valide a tout temps et peux bien etre une faute incorrigeable a un certain moment pour la seule raison d'avoir aime.

Justin 01-20-2009 10:06 PM

Re: Relationship/Marriage
 
If u are in a secure relationship there's no reason why u shouldn't wanna get married. In the modern world, is in a bit of flux; when ppl do get married, they should make sure that they agree up front on what they mean by marriage (e.g; sexual faithfulness n a promise that each person will do what they can to make the other one happy).

Basically long story short
Quote:

Originally Posted by deAtheganized
Any relationship that has no prospect of becoming a serious long term relationship is a waste of time...Humans have short lives and never much time to lose


SysTaMatIcS 01-20-2009 10:54 PM

Re: Relationship/Marriage
 
bala francewe inti w yeh :|
and for me im living a crysis about this now , im with my gf , n theres no hope of gettin married in the future , and this is very disturbing to me , since i have this eutopiac image of a relationship ,that leads into a prospering life between the two , and its really annoying and bugging me to live in a relationship with someone that i love , that i know it will end someday!!!!!

makes me feel like why would i go all the way then?

Tawa 01-21-2009 02:06 AM

Re: Relationship/Marriage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deAtheganized (Post 168942)
Any relationship that has no prospect of becoming a serious long term relationship is a waste of time...Humans have short lives and never much time to lose

Humans Do Have Short Lives, But No One Can Start Searching For His Life Partner From Early Age.

I Think That Every Person Should Go Out, Meet New Partners, Have Relationships With The People He Likes, And Finally Get Experience.

Nothing That Gives You Experience In This Live Is A Waste Of Time.
And One Must Know His Taste After Trying More Than One Option, And By Trying I Don't Mean Engaging A Relationship, Then, As Soon As He Knows It Can't Lead To A Marriage, Just Let Go Of It. Sometimes People Might Be Mistaken And Let Go Of A Very Good Promising Relationship Because They Don't Know Their Partner Enough To Dump Them.

The Cheese 01-21-2009 06:56 PM

Re: Relationship/Marriage
 
Well,I wouldn't stay in a relationship if it doesn't lead to something serious later on :)
But the problem is that you can't just predict the fate of a relationship as soon as it starts,so you have to take chances and believe in that relationship to try and make it work :).
Now,if things don't work out,you'll always have experience from your previous relationship(s).
I mean ): how many people ended up getting married to their first sweatheart ever?
That doesn't mean that I'd go into a relationship for fun ):,but I wouldn't know if it turns into something big unless I try :)
And when things get serious enough,planning between the two sides is needed :D
The key is just the right amount of planning for the future and enjoying the relationship day by day as well :D

jak 01-21-2009 07:14 PM

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when a girl is gettin older (ya3ne she's 23 aw 24 years old) relationships SHOULD lead to a marriage or else she will be wastin her time, and time will pass quickly and she will find herself in the 30s with no one to even start a new relationship with (thats what they call in Leb "t3annis")
if the girl isnt 23 or 24 years old yet then relationships should teach her a lot w maybe the relationship will lead to marriage (in some cases) but that is not necessary

Gilgamesh 01-22-2009 09:03 AM

Re: Relationship/Marriage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tawa (Post 169058)
Humans Do Have Short Lives, But No One Can Start Searching For His Life Partner From Early Age.

I Think That Every Person Should Go Out, Meet New Partners, Have Relationships With The People He Likes, And Finally Get Experience.

Nothing That Gives You Experience In This Live Is A Waste Of Time.
And One Must Know His Taste After Trying More Than One Option, And By Trying I Don't Mean Engaging A Relationship, Then, As Soon As He Knows It Can't Lead To A Marriage, Just Let Go Of It. Sometimes People Might Be Mistaken And Let Go Of A Very Good Promising Relationship Because They Don't Know Their Partner Enough To Dump Them.

Well that might have always been true in theory whilst going always wrong in practice.Taking these criteria into consideration is vital:

1 - Gender of the person. (male/female)
2 - Limits of engagement in a relationship for that gender in a specific culture (How deep is that male/female in that relationship?)
3 - The objective of a relationship and the timeline by which that objective expires.(What that person expects from that relationship and after how long on not achieving that expectation will he break up?)

Tawa 01-22-2009 01:29 PM

Re: Relationship/Marriage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deAtheganized (Post 169286)
1 - Gender of the person. (male/female)

What's The Difference?
If You Mean That The Femal Can't Waste Time A7san Ma t3annis, Well I Say It's True Because Of Our Society. Cause In European And American Ones, Girls Getting Married At The Age Of 35 Is Something Normal.
Quote:

Originally Posted by deAtheganized (Post 169286)
2 - Limits of engagement in a relationship for that gender in a specific culture (How deep is that male/female in that relationship?)

It Always Depends On The Culture And The Society That's True :think:
Quote:

Originally Posted by deAtheganized (Post 169286)
3 - The objective of a relationship and the timeline by which that objective expires.(What that person expects from that relationship and after how long on not achieving that expectation will he break up?)

It's Not Always About Getting Married, Most Of The People Just Need Someone To Stand Besides Them Sometimes, And Someone To Share Bad Times With, Someone To Share Secrets With, Someone To Go Out With, Have Fun, Spend Some Time.

You Usually Explain What You Write In Your Posts, But Not In This Thread O_o Weird.

Kevin 01-22-2009 01:53 PM

Re: Relationship/Marriage
 
Marriage is the sign of a couple's commitment to each other. Without that the feelings of being taken for granted can creep in. With no real commitment one of you may not think twice about exercising an option to leave the relationship. Plus, how do you keep track of your financial affairs?

If it's just dating then the options are occurring now. Long term dating keeps one out there, in the mix. It's saying you two really don't have anything really in common to be together in a committed relationship. There isn't a desire to build a life together. It's just a relationship built on physical gratification, the sex is good.

Either way it depends on how you feel about it, seems like you're concerned that if this person isn't right for marriage then maybe you should put yourself out there to let someone who is find you. Be honest with yourself and be real about life. Realize that not being married makes it easy to leave the relationship, and someone is going to be emotionally hurt.

Gilgamesh 01-22-2009 09:05 PM

Re: Relationship/Marriage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tawa (Post 169309)
What's The Difference?
If You Mean That The Femal Can't Waste Time A7san Ma t3annis, Well I Say It's True Because Of Our Society. Cause In European And American Ones, Girls Getting Married At The Age Of 35 Is Something Normal.

I like it when people who haven't lived in the states or europe try to give lessons about living there...

If you wish to apply the standards of a morally deteriorated, ethically degenerated society that is void of any value not associated with a dollar sign such as that of the USA, you better know what you are talking about. Once you are ready to see one of your daughters being fooled by a couple of guys and compromising every value and dignity she has (which is "just life" by american standards),only then, talk to me about american values especially in relationships.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tawa (Post 169309)
It's Not Always About Getting Married, Most Of The People Just Need Someone To Stand Besides Them Sometimes, And Someone To Share Bad Times With, Someone To Share Secrets With, Someone To Go Out With, Have Fun, Spend Some Time.



"Going out" and "Spending some time with" are stretchy terms that you know can mean many things. Anything that doesn't oppose the conservative values that we will always stick to and the religious apparatus that organizes these relationships, we wouldnt be against it.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tawa (Post 169309)
You Usually Explain What You Write In Your Posts, But Not In This Thread O_o Weird.

I didn't know you needed more explanation and honestly I don't have time for it. But just remember one thing, that in every society were men and women tend to know a lot of partners before marriage, divorce rates are insanely high. There is always some wisdom in traditional rules and religious restraints; they are there only because they need to be there and will always be needed

Jess 01-29-2009 09:00 AM

Re: Relationship/Marriage
 
It all depends hehe :)

If marriage isn't what I want right now then I am in the right relationship. But if marriage is what I want, then it would be stupid of me to hang in there and spin my wheels ):

emm am only 21, am not ready yet to any commitment, not ready for the big step :)

Dalzi 01-29-2009 09:14 AM

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Hell no. No way. I'd never go into it from the beginning either. Relationships that are not serious lead to nothing positive. Waste of time, energy, life, you name it. Life is too short for stupidity.


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