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xcoder 04-07-2009 10:51 PM

Mabrouk Tashnag, C&R and opposition
 
Hagop Pakradonian the candidate of Tashnag in metn and the member of C&R bloc won tazkiyeh because no one ran on that seat.

Mabrouk :D


El-Meghwar 04-07-2009 11:19 PM

1-0 :D
now 3a2bel the other 127 seats ;)

Patriotic 04-07-2009 11:42 PM

Why are you so happy??

The win of Tachnag now have several negative influence to the opposition list in Metn.

First of all, by winning the seat with no elections, the Armenian voter won't have the same enthusiasm in voting for the list as much as a true election there with a partisan candidate.
Second, by not having any Armenian candidate in his list, Michel Murr make a bigger space into the win, at least he by himself, and therefore it would be harder to one of the opposition's orthodoxy candidate to win.
Third, Tachnaq by themselves, won't work as much as asked from them, and this may decrease the percentage of vote in their discrits.

TAREK® 04-08-2009 12:31 PM

mabrouk Tashnag :D

xcoder 04-08-2009 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patriotic (Post 180228)
Why are you so happy??

The win of Tachnag now have several negative influence to the opposition list in Metn.

First of all, by winning the seat with no elections, the Armenian voter won't have the same enthusiasm in voting for the list as much as a true election there with a partisan candidate.
Second, by not having any Armenian candidate in his list, Michel Murr make a bigger space into the win, at least he by himself, and therefore it would be harder to one of the opposition's orthodoxy candidate to win.
Third, Tachnaq by themselves, won't work as much as asked from them, and this may decrease the percentage of vote in their discrits.

Stop spreading this non sense, you would have had the right to say so if Tashnag has done otherwise in 2007 elections.
Few weeks ago, some people were lecturing Tashnag behavior as if they weren't loyal enough to the C&R bloc.
Tashnag electoral machine is working day and night inside and outside metn, Our victory is certainly tashnag victory and vice versa.
What happened is a victory for Tashnag in the first place C&R in the second place and the opposition in general. Let's just give things the size they deserve.

Sheriff Ice 04-08-2009 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patriotic (Post 180228)
Why are you so happy??

The win of Tachnag now have several negative influence to the opposition list in Metn.

First of all, by winning the seat with no elections, the Armenian voter won't have the same enthusiasm in voting for the list as much as a true election there with a partisan candidate.
Second, by not having any Armenian candidate in his list, Michel Murr make a bigger space into the win, at least he by himself, and therefore it would be harder to one of the opposition's orthodoxy candidate to win.
Third, Tachnaq by themselves, won't work as much as asked from them, and this may decrease the percentage of vote in their discrits.

I think this is enough to reply you :)

هوفيك مختاريان: فوز النائب بقرادونيان بالتزكية لن يؤثر في حماسة الطاشناق
tayyar.org

Rami_s 04-08-2009 07:00 PM

بقرادونيان لقناة "المنار": فوزي بالتزكية في المتن لن يؤثر على مشاركة الأرمن وسنكون الى جانب الجنرال عون ب 6 مقاعد وسنلتزم بشخص النائب المر
Source:tayyar.org

Jess 04-08-2009 08:14 PM

khay khay khay :)

good luck for the rest :D


Mabrouk :D

Tawa 04-08-2009 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jess (Post 180361)
بقرادونيان لقناة "المنار": فوزي بالتزكية في المتن لن يؤثر على مشاركة الأرمن وسنكون الى جانب الجنرال عون ب 6 مقاعد وسنلتزم بشخص النائب المر

tayyar

This Was Posted 1 Post Before You lool.

chaingang_100 04-08-2009 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patriotic (Post 180228)
Why are you so happy??

The win of Tachnag now have several negative influence to the opposition list in Metn.

First of all, by winning the seat with no elections, the Armenian voter won't have the same enthusiasm in voting for the list as much as a true election there with a partisan candidate.
Second, by not having any Armenian candidate in his list, Michel Murr make a bigger space into the win, at least he by himself, and therefore it would be harder to one of the opposition's orthodoxy candidate to win.
Third, Tachnaq by themselves, won't work as much as asked from them, and this may decrease the percentage of vote in their discrits.

Shou hal nahfe ya zalame:D:D, go ask 7adan "byfham" and he'll tell you how many pure Armenian Tashnag voters are coming form outside Lebanon(U.S.A, Australia, France...) through the party here. So tell me now if we're working enough or not;)

Jess 04-10-2009 11:09 PM

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/985...irvsfaseed.jpg

Jose 04-11-2009 12:02 PM

Most of u remember me as doable.

I still see chaingang brainwashing, talking crap. We gave u ur seat. tashnag has 10000 votes in maten out of 80000. we gave ur seat( 1 out of 8 ). WHY, AND I MEAN WHAT IN THE BLUE HELL U GOT TO DO WITH MARONITE SEATS?

U notice ur going to make us lose? U notice ur taking the country to syrian, iranian path?

I think next time there is elections, armenians be banished out of it for good. This is utter joke.

El-Meghwar 04-11-2009 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose (Post 180735)
Most of u remember me as doable.

I still see chaingang brainwashing, talking crap. We gave u ur seat. tashnag has 10000 votes in maten out of 80000. we gave ur seat( 1 out of 8 ). WHY, AND I MEAN WHAT IN THE BLUE HELL U GOT TO DO WITH MARONITE SEATS?

U notice ur going to make us lose? U notice ur taking the country to syrian, iranian path?

I think next time there is elections, armenians be banished out of it for good. This is utter joke.


Oh welcome back to the Armenians hater !! the sectarian speech is back to our forum :D .. that's an example of why Lebanon is still a backward country ;)
Armenians are Lebanese, they were born in Lebanon before you dude, they came to here maybe before your parents who may be from a certain Syrian or whatever roots.
Armenians are Christians too, they have the complete right in electing just like you.
One more thing, if the majority of the Lebanese people want to be a part of the what you call "Syrian-Iranian axis" then Lebanon should be a part of it ;) let the people choose what Lebanon they want, that's what elections are for.
Anyway we are very proud of being the only resistant country in the region, and the only country that defeated Israel, we are those who rather to die on their feet than living on their knees licking the boots of their masters ;)

And one more thing dude, you give nothing, so saying that you gave the Armenians a seat is just one of the silliest thing i have ever heard or read, baddkon min ya3tikon, you are begging Michel Murr to give you a seat lool, get a life !

Jose 04-11-2009 01:16 PM

I dont think am racist at all. But lets ignore that.

Let us look at tashnag party goals, on their newly website

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الاهداف السياسية لحزب الطاشناق
- اقامة ارمينيا الحرة والمستقلة والموحدة.
- ستكون ارمينيا جمهورية ديمقراطية اشتراكية مستقلة .
- يجب ان تضم ارمينيا الموحدة المناطق التي حددت بموجب معاهدة سيفر، بالاضافة الى مناطق ناخيتشيفان واخالكالاك وكاراباخ.
- سيجتمع الشعب الارمني بفئاته المهجرة فوق اراضي ارمينيا المستقلة.
- يجب ادانة جريمة الابادة الجماعية التي ارتكبت بحق الارمن من قبل تركيا ، وكذلك معالجة آثارها ، واعادة الاراضي المحتلة والتعويض على الشعب الارمني.
- ان القوانين الرئيسة لجمهورية ارمينيا ستقرر من قبل المؤتمر الدشتوري لأرمينيا ، المنتخب عن طرق الانتخابات العامة المباشرة والسرية وفق مبدأ الاقتراع النسبي .
http://www.tashnag.org/history.php?pageNo=6

Okey, did u see anything about lebanon? NO!
Here is my problem with tashnag, they are unbeatable armenian wise in elections because of things related to armenia. On the other hand, say LF or FPM can easily influence christian vote by their programs and history lebanese wise. But when it comes to armenians, they get influenced by nothing and follow the tashnag. This is the unfair.
so Now, elections mean nothing between armenians. bunch of sheep.

Rampage!! 04-11-2009 01:34 PM

http://www.tashnag.org/img/endragan-logo.gif

chaingang_100 04-11-2009 01:37 PM

Those goals you mentioned were put back in 1890 ya jehil, don't just copy/paste without knowing, have the curiosity to ask, and u need to much or even more than too much just to understand the idea of these which we are working on it till today, and these have nothing to do in Lebanon. Here in Lebanon our goals are just like FPM's goals. So go get educated ya Jose, doable, badre....anything you like

Krazy 04-11-2009 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose (Post 180735)
I still see chaingang brainwashing, talking crap. We gave u ur seat. tashnag has 10000 votes in maten out of 80000. we gave ur seat( 1 out of 8 ). WHY, AND I MEAN WHAT IN THE BLUE HELL U GOT TO DO WITH MARONITE SEATS?

in the same way...
What in the blue hell (blue works more in here) Hariri got to do with the Evangelical seat in Beirut 3 while the majority of Evangelists are Armenians?

But let's not be racist and accept everyone in Lebanon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose (Post 180735)
U notice ur going to make us lose? U notice ur taking the country to syrian, iranian path?

The magic word "Syrian-Iranian". Do you have anything else to say?
and thinking like you, where should we take the country? to the Israeli-Egyptian-Saudi path?

(note: what I wrote above is not the way I think but I'm just changing some words from your post and feeding them back to you).

As for the goals of the party. Those are the general goals which are agreed upon by the international committee and not only by the central committee inside Lebanon.
For Lebanon, the central committee decides on the internal issue (without the intervention of the central committees in any other country) and as I remember Mr. Hovig Mkhitarian read the plans.

Another note: the central committe is elected by the "sheep" that u're calling us.

Rampage!! 04-11-2009 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose (Post 180743)
I dont think am racist at all. But lets ignore that.

Let us look at tashnag party goals, on their newly website



http://www.tashnag.org/history.php?pageNo=6

Okey, did u see anything about lebanon? NO!
Here is my problem with tashnag, they are unbeatable armenian wise in elections because of things related to armenia. On the other hand, say LF or FPM can easily influence christian vote by their programs and history lebanese wise. But when it comes to armenians, they get influenced by nothing and follow the tashnag. This is the unfair.
so Now, elections mean nothing between armenians. bunch of sheep.

OMG jose you are sooo racist

Kingroudy 04-11-2009 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose
WHY, AND I MEAN WHAT IN THE BLUE HELL U GOT TO DO WITH MARONITE SEATS?

nkeye fik :D now stop using caps you sectarian ignorant.

Kain 04-11-2009 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose (Post 180735)
Most of u remember me as doable.

Lah ya msha77ar reji3:hawhaw:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose
I still see chaingang brainwashing,

We're just sheep:yayi: Poor little sheep:yayi: Just mindless zombies:yayi:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose
talking crap.

Wassakhiiiiiiiiiiiit:eek:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose
We gave u ur seat.

Bel nesbe lal We :hawhaw:???

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose
tashnag has 10000 votes in maten out of 80000. we gave ur seat( 1 out of 8 ). WHY, AND I MEAN WHAT IN THE BLUE HELL U GOT TO DO WITH MARONITE SEATS?

He's gonna exploooode!! Run everybody:yayi:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose
U notice ur going to make us lose? U notice ur taking the country to syrian, iranian path?

Wlik eh shou fiha:hawhaw:?? You'll get to meet new cultures:hawhaw:
The persian culture is fascinating reallylool

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose
I think next time there is elections, armenians be banished out of it for good.This is utter joke.

A damn good joke at thatlool...Just as long as it gets you this angry and gets us to lauuuuughhhh:hawhaw:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose (Post 180743)
I dont think am racist at all.

Clearly the "I think, therefore I am" expression does not apply in your case:p

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose
But lets ignore that.

Eh for your sake we should:p

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose
Let us look at tashnag party goals, on their newly website



http://www.tashnag.org/history.php?pageNo=6

Okey, did u see anything about lebanon? NO!
Here is my problem with tashnag, they are unbeatable armenian wise in elections because of things related to armenia. On the other hand, say LF or FPM can easily influence christian vote by their programs and history lebanese wise. But when it comes to armenians, they get influenced by nothing and follow the tashnag.

Chaingang and Krazy already explained things and made them crystal clear so no need to comment here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose
This is the unfair.

Life is pain nothing is fair:'(
You really sound emo:hawhaw:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose
so Now, elections mean nothing between armenians. bunch of sheep.

Ya ma7la l sheep eddem Carlos Eddeh:hawhaw:

SysTaMatIcS 04-12-2009 01:21 AM

guess whos back ,back again , tell a friend , doables back :D :D :D

xcoder 04-12-2009 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose (Post 180735)
Most of u remember me as doable.

I still see chaingang brainwashing, talking crap. We gave u ur seat. tashnag has 10000 votes in maten out of 80000. we gave ur seat( 1 out of 8 ). WHY, AND I MEAN WHAT IN THE BLUE HELL U GOT TO DO WITH MARONITE SEATS?

U notice ur going to make us lose? U notice ur taking the country to syrian, iranian path?

I think next time there is elections, armenians be banished out of it for good. This is utter joke.

Racist, Sectarian to the max and funny analysis, that's all you need to be a 14feb supporter.
The thing you have to keep in mind is that Tashnag and FPM gave Pierre Gemayel a seat in 2005 and took it back in 2007. "we gave you" 2al loool

If Tashnag were "sheep" as you were saying, why were you trying to ally with them?

RAM BÓY™ 04-12-2009 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xcoder (Post 180870)
Racist, Sectarian to the max and funny analysis, that's all you need to be a 14feb supporter.
The thing you have to keep in mind is that Tashnag and FPM gave Pierre Gemayel a seat in 2005 and took it back in 2007. "we gave you" 2al loool

If Tashnag were "sheep" as you were saying, why were you trying to ally with them?

يسلم تممك

lool lool lool lool lool

Choukou 04-12-2009 06:00 AM

can someone kick this guy out of here!!!! Tell me who I hate I tell you racist people!!

ba3ed na2is hal jalbout yeje yetzeka 3layna!!

Jose 04-12-2009 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xcoder (Post 180870)
Racist, Sectarian to the max and funny analysis, that's all you need to be a 14feb supporter.
The thing you have to keep in mind is that Tashnag and FPM gave Pierre Gemayel a seat in 2005 and took it back in 2007. "we gave you" 2al loool

If Tashnag were "sheep" as you were saying, why were you trying to ally with them?

they didnt give anything. we got 1 seat, u got 7. although we got 30000 votes in 2005 and u got 50000. we deserved 2 more seats.

in 2007, u got 40000 we got 40000 as well. 4 - 4 seats it should be.
in 2009 u will win thanks to tashnag.but u dont deserve more then 3 seats in maten. fpm has 25000 base in maten, nothing more. 3 seats for u, 1 for tashnag 1 for murr 1 lf 1 kataeb 1 14 azar.

Jose 04-12-2009 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kain (Post 180859)

Chaingang and Krazy already explained things and made them crystal clear so no need to comment here.





They run away from the points I made, especially chaingang who couldnt express himself and was defeated in the discussion. He called me jaheil, because he doesnt have any other arguments to give.

xcoder 04-12-2009 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose (Post 180892)
they didnt give anything. we got 1 seat, u got 7. although we got 30000 votes in 2005 and u got 50000. we deserved 2 more seats.

in 2007, u got 40000 we got 40000 as well. 4 - 4 seats it should be.
in 2009 u will win thanks to tashnag.but u dont deserve more then 3 seats in maten. fpm has 25000 base in maten, nothing more. 3 seats for u, 1 for tashnag 1 for murr 1 lf 1 kataeb 1 14 azar.

I was distributing FPM list with pierre gemayel name on it.
Look at the difference between pierre gemayel and eddy abi lamaa(24217) and you will know what i'm talking about.

Btw brahim kenaan had 56840 votes in 2005 and pierre gemayel 29421.
You would have had 2 seats if Hariri would have accepted to risk it for you and drop the Hariri-Kenaan law but he didn't, u're just not worth it for him.

loool 2007? i hope you will be runing 2009 elections with the same calculations you wil certainly insure a victory hehe.

I don't know how you did your calculations but they're so illogical. The elections are going to be held soon, you better come up with better excuses. Your best chances are khare2 from Gemayel and Murr only.

TAREK® 04-12-2009 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nada (Post 180875)
can someone kick this guy out of here!!!! Tell me who I hate I tell you racist people!!

ba3ed na2is hal jalbout yeje yetzeka 3layna!!

:hawhaw:

ba3do mou7taram :hawhaw: the one u should see is deebabounyeb :hawhaw:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose (Post 180893)
They run away from the points I made, especially chaingang who couldnt express himself and was defeated in the discussion. He called me jaheil, because he doesnt have any other arguments to give.


no he said u are jehil becoz u are one :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose (Post 180893)
they didnt give anything. we got 1 seat, u got 7. although we got 30000 votes in 2005 and u got 50000. we deserved 2 more seats.

in 2007, u got 40000 we got 40000 as well. 4 - 4 seats it should be.
in 2009 u will win thanks to tashnag.but u dont deserve more then 3 seats in maten. fpm has 25000 base in maten, nothing more. 3 seats for u, 1 for tashnag 1 for murr 1 lf 1 kataeb 1 14 azar.

at least we will win, we deserve it or not mesh shagheltak hay :p

Kain 04-12-2009 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose (Post 180893)
They run away from the points I made, especially chaingang who couldnt express himself and was defeated in the discussion. He called me jaheil, because he doesnt have any other arguments to give.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose
Okey, did u see anything about lebanon? NO!

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaingang_100
Those goals you mentioned were put back in 1890 ya jehil,



Quote:

Originally Posted by Krazy
As for the goals of the party. Those are the general goals which are agreed upon by the international committee and not only by the central committee inside Lebanon.
For Lebanon, the central committee decides on the internal issue (without the intervention of the central committees in any other country) and as I remember Mr. Hovig Mkhitarian read the plans.

Another note: the central committe is elected by the "sheep" that u're calling us

AND regarding the site you chose...

This is from an earlier thread:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joujoulika
hi i wanted to know the official website of tashnaq in lebanon plz (i searched 4 it i couldnt find it)

thanks in advance

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krazy

There is no official Tashnag (Lebanon) website even though lately there has been Lebanese Armenian website which seems to be for the Tashnag in Lebanon (the site is in Armenian).

There are websites for the ranks of Tashnag and one of them was mentioned above:
www.lemagan.com
The above mentioned is for the Armenian Youth Association.

Another one is www.Badanegan.com (again for the youths)
There is also www.zavarian.org (Zavarian Student Association)


Krazy 04-12-2009 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kain (Post 180900)
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AND regarding the site you chose...

They made the new site after that reply but still Jose chose to take the goals from the history part.

As for what Mr. Mkhitarian announced during the conference that was held to introduce the candidates.

Quote:

وقال: "وانطلاقا من مبادئه التاريخية منذ الاستقلال وخاصة بعد عام 1957، قرر الحزب ترشيح شخصيات ارمنية غير حزبية في دوائر بيروت الاولى والثانية وزحلة، ومرشح حزبي في دائرة المتن الشمالي، وخوض الانتخابات المقبلة بهدف اعادة احياء كتلة النواب الارمن ايمانا منه بالمبادئ التالية:

اولا: لبنان كان ولا يزال بلد التعايش بين اللبنانيين حيث احترام الذات واحترام الرأي الآخر وقرار عدم الغاء الآخر او التهميش.
ثانيا: يبقى لبنان سيدا حرا مستقلا بقرار جميع اللبنانيين وتضافر جهود جميع ابنائه حيثما وجدوا والى اي طائفة او جهة سياسية انتموا.
ثالثا: لبنان وطن جميع اللبنانيين دون استثناء ودون منة من احد. اساس المواطنية هو الوفاء والولاء والتضحية من اجل لبنان ومن اجل ديمومته وازدهاره وقوته ورسالته.
رابعا: ان الانتخابات النيابية وجه من وجوه الديمقراطية في لبنان، يجب اجرائها في الوقت المحدد وحسب الانظمة المرعية دون اللجوء الى العنف او الخطاب السياسي المتشنج في جو من الحرية، بعيدا عن الضغوطات السياسية والاجتماعية والخدماتية والمالية والتوظيفية.

خامسا: ان التمثيل الصحيح في المجلس النيابي يساعد على حل مشاكل كبيرة بدءا من موضوع الانماء المتوازن ولقمة عيش المواطن الى موضوع مكافحة الفساد وصولا الى المحاسبة والمساءلة الصريحة التي تعتبر اساس الديمقراطية وفصل السلطات الدستورية.
سادسا: على اعضاء المجلس النيابي ان يلتقوا حول المؤسسات الشرعية وخاصة حول رأس الهرم، فخامة رئيس الجمهورية، الذي تم انتخابه بالتوافق الكامل، وحول الحكم الذي يمكنه ايجاد الحلول المرجوة لمعظم المشاكل على الساحة اللبنانية، بدءا من المشاكل المعيشية الذي يعاني منها المواطن اللبناني، الى موضوع العلاقة الديبلوماسية مع سوريا وترسيم الحدود، وصولا الى موضوع السلاح الفلسطيني خارج المخيمات وموضوع تحرير المناطق اللبنانية المحتلة من قبل اسرائيل ووقف الخروقات والاعتداءات الاسرائيلية، وصولا الى وضع الاستراتيجية الدفاعية.
سابعا: ان اعادة احياء كتلة النواب الارمن هي في الحقيقة اعادة لرمزية هذه الكتلة ولدورها الوطني ولقرارها الذاتي والتي كانت وستبقى حجر الاساس في المجلس النيابي لأجل المحافظة على الاستقرار السياسي والاعتدال والابتعاد عن الخطاب العنيف والمساعدة على تقريب وجهات النظر وفتح مساحات الحوار بين الاطراف المختلفة".


Krazy 04-12-2009 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose (Post 180892)
they didnt give anything. we got 1 seat, u got 7. although we got 30000 votes in 2005 and u got 50000. we deserved 2 more seats.

in 2007, u got 40000 we got 40000 as well. 4 - 4 seats it should be.
in 2009 u will win thanks to tashnag.but u dont deserve more then 3 seats in maten. fpm has 25000 base in maten, nothing more. 3 seats for u, 1 for tashnag 1 for murr 1 lf 1 kataeb 1 14 azar.

Is this a new law that I missed reading in the electoral law?
The candidate gets more vote (even if it is 1 vote more) => (s)he wins.

To make it easier for you to understand, consider there are only 2 seats. If list 1 candidates took 40001 votes and list 2 got 40000 votes (each list with 2 candidates), why should one of the winner of list 1 give the seat to one of the losers in list 2?

FPM will win thanks to Tashnag and in another region, Tashnag will win thanks to FPM while in another region LF will win thanks to PSP, etc...

Why it is not allowed for FPM to have an ally? :D

Rampage!! 04-12-2009 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krazy (Post 180913)
Is this a new law that I missed reading in the electoral law?
The candidate gets more vote (even if it is 1 vote more) => (s)he wins.

To make it easier for you to understand, consider there are only 2 seats. If list 1 candidates took 40001 votes and list 2 got 40000 votes (each list with 2 candidates), why should one of the winner of list 1 give the seat to one of the losers in list 2?

FPM will win thanks to Tashnag and in another region, Tashnag will win thanks to FPM while in another region LF will win thanks to PSP, etc...

Why it is not allowed for FPM to have an ally? :D

I don't agree with you here i don't think FPM will win because of tashnag tashnag has 9000 votes maybe 10000 FPM has 45000 maybe more tashnag plays a big role here but it's exaggerating to say that FPM will win because of tashnag

Jose 04-12-2009 11:38 AM

xcoder, do you want to know why tashnag didnt join 14 azar? Our offer was the same as yours. Even better in fact :)

here is ur answer

http://www.isna.ir/ISNA/NewsView.asp...1315906&Lang=E

Quote:

Armenian President to visit Iran on Monday
TEHRAN, Armenian President Serzh Sarkisian will pay an official visit to Iran 13 and 14 April.
Armenia’s Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian, Energy Minister Armen Movsesian and Economy Minister Nerses Yeritsyan are in his delegation in Iran.
Sarkisian is planned to meet Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Parliament Speaker Ali Larijani and Secretary of Supreme National Security Council Saeed Jalili.
Officials of the two countries will hold talks on several documents which are to be signed during the visit including the final agreement on Iran-Armenia direct railway.
Also Armenia’s Energy Minister Armen Movsesian who is already in Tehran and Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki have hold talks and reviewed latest bilateral documents.

Jose 04-12-2009 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by emilio (Post 180915)
I don't agree with you here i don't think FPM will win because of tashnag tashnag has 9000 votes maybe 10000 FPM has 45000 maybe more tashnag plays a big role here but it's exaggerating to say that FPM will win because of tashnag


fpm has 45000 votes? ur on drugs or something?

FPM has at best 30000 votes in maten( its close to 25000 in fact). Dont forget 5000 SSNP votes either.

TAREK® 04-12-2009 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose (Post 180916)
xcoder, do you want to know why tashnag didnt join 14 azar? Our offer was the same as yours. Even better in fact :)

here is ur answer

http://www.isna.ir/ISNA/NewsView.asp...1315906&Lang=E

fik t2eleh shu 5as? :hizb:

Kain 04-12-2009 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose (Post 180916)
xcoder, do you want to know why tashnag didnt join 14 azar? Our offer was the same as yours. Even better in fact :)

here is ur answer

http://www.isna.ir/ISNA/NewsView.asp...1315906&Lang=E

See i was rightlool the persian culture really IS fascinatinglool

Rampage!! 04-12-2009 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jose (Post 180918)
fpm has 45000 votes? ur on drugs or something?

FPM has at best 30000 votes in maten( its close to 25000 in fact). Dont forget 5000 SSNP votes either.

You really ignore ignore all the statistics ! the latest poll show that fpm has 47% of the votes in maten ya3ner bil 40000 sote

Jose 04-12-2009 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by emilio (Post 180921)
You really ignore ignore all the statistics ! the latest poll show that fpm has 47% of the votes in maten ya3ner bil 40000 sote

the 47 % is with allies. the tashnag/ssnp.

even 47 % doesnt mean in 40000's. There are 80000 votes in maten. 47 % is less then 40000 brother.

FPM has 25000, Tashnag 10000, SSNP around 5000. Here is your 47 %.

El-Meghwar 04-12-2009 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose (Post 180892)
they didnt give anything. we got 1 seat, u got 7. although we got 30000 votes in 2005 and u got 50000. we deserved 2 more seats.

in 2007, u got 40000 we got 40000 as well. 4 - 4 seats it should be.
in 2009 u will win thanks to tashnag.but u dont deserve more then 3 seats in maten. fpm has 25000 base in maten, nothing more. 3 seats for u, 1 for tashnag 1 for murr 1 lf 1 kataeb 1 14 azar.


Thanks for approving that FPM alone is the majority in Metn :)
waiting to see your opinion about other regions, you will end up by approving that FPM is the majority in all the Lebanese regions.

chaingang_100 04-12-2009 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose (Post 180893)
They run away from the points I made, especially chaingang who couldnt express himself and was defeated in the discussion. He called me jaheil, because he doesnt have any other arguments to give.

Ya khayye shou baddak?? elle ta netfeham. If you can find anything from the points that i mentioned which is wrong then you're God


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