Whey Proteins !!
 

There are no dangerous side effects to whey protein consumption...at least none that were proven or linked to whey proteins.

You're on the safe side:) Just make sure you've got all the right info:)

I looked at wikipedia just now
it seems like it's all good stuff, no bad things about it
get me some :W

not sure though if they will do miracles, it seems that they are just extracts of cheese and milk... you might as well drink milk and eat cheese instead

Btw don't grow too dependant on that stuff...and nutrition is key while taking them... NEVER skip meals.

w btw the amino acids aktar shi bi3assbo :p baddak tekhod 11 7abbe twice per day aw once per day nsit:p w ri7eton ktir me2erfe:p

Oh and if you need any extra energy you could try energy bars. Packed with proteins.
Later on if you become buff you might advance to more serious solutions for energy such as creatine.

La2 mesh daroure 3atoul...you can stop bas i think it should be progressively...ask the nutritionist about that.

Personally ana bfaddil eno ta3mil training 3ade bel gym bala l whey proteins w amino acids w hal 7araket. Bas that's just me. If you want to gain muscle mass fast then this is the way to go.

Btw ntebih...take a 2nd opinion...usually these solutions differ according to the person's overall size.

Ya3ne if you're skinny i wouldn't recommend for you what i would recommend to someone who is already big boned.

EDIT :The fat burner is also a good solution. You can take it aslan without having to train...Of course training gives better result.
While training you take the fat burner twice per day.

Again...after asking that nutritionist seek a 2nd opinion. The local pharmacist might be able to provide some help.

just start training and don't ook backand don't be in too much hurry
I have seen my friends at the gym, it takes a year before it even shows a bit that you go to the gym :p it takes 2 years to have real biceps and chest muscles

kinda depressing, but if you don't start you'll never get there ;)

I won't take my chances with specific foods and pills
just eat like a horse, whatever your muscles needs they are bound to get it :p

also, being on a diet and training for muscles is not good, you can only do one of these 2
because cutting down on food will also lead to a decrease in muscle development

kabber 3a2lak .... natural muscles are never built with such stuff ...

My friend,

I bet you that the guy who is selling u these stuff doesnt know what chemicals the products contain.

Personally, ive been working out since 4 years and i always take a whey protein shake after my workout. It is just like a meal replacement. So instead of having a full chicken after ur workout, u can have a shake instead.

As for fat burners:
1- U said that u wanna gain muscle... I dunno why the guy recommended fat burners.
2- Fat burners are dangerous.
Its true that they help u lose fat, but they also increase ur heart rate like crazy (bitsir t7ess be tar2a) which is really annoying and unhealthy.
3- U have to take multivitamins with fat burners or ur organs will be totaled.

Trust me on this,

I really recommend the whey protein. Work out hard and eat well for 6 months.
Then start cutting down by doing cardio and abs. No need for fat burners at all.

Hope this helps.

Mark

Montreal

first of all what is your weight and your body fat %.

for the fat burner thing, there is only one safe product called L-carnetine and it's not that effective it's weak. stronger products like thermo ripped have several side effects. i don't recommend taking a fat burner. i am 110KG, i am following a diet and doing cardio training i used to train without diet the only thing that improved was my stamina bt my wieght stayed the same till i started a diet parallel to the training, i've started my system a month ago (adding the diet) and i've cheated alot (ken fi seker w BBqs w khbar) but now i am 105Kg and dropping.

As for whey proteins and amino acids, if you are fat they wont do you anything, amino acids needs to be taken if your body fat is less than 30~32%. and if you were already fat don't take protein just amino, i am starting amino once my weight is below 100kg. i have a very good trainer and he is a professional (deresa lel mehneh mech men jamei3et el chedd w tedghit :p ).

so my advice for you is to go to a dietitian first, check your data, if you have high body fat% drop all supplements, start a diet and cardio training.

check your body fat % and start a healthy diet, start cardio training for a couple of months then use one cycle of amino acids if your weight dropped below ~88kg

no I don't think proteins and stuff have dangerous side effects
not sure though
I heard testosterone actualy can boost both your muscles and intelligence :p and there are other stuff athletes use

the real problem is that clean steroids and stuff like that costs alot of money, these have no side effects
the cheap stuff people buy are not so reliable

I've been working out for about a year and a half... right now I'm in a "not bad" shape... recently I started to take "Mass Gainer"; I need to gain about 5 Kg, and maybe later I'll start with Whey Proteins... last week I read that the body needs daily 1 gram of protein for each 1 pound of body weight (that's about 160 grams of protein daily) ... What I wanted to ask is does this huge amount of protein have any side effects on the body especially on the liver ?

Thank you ...

Not from my experience..

But what u should make sure off is to drink AT LEAST 3 Liters of water.

Enjoy and train hard!

Hello Abruzzy,

Avoid fat burner a much as you can, and let your work out be your fat burner. Make sure to eat healthy diet:
Weight Loss:

• You should be drinking at least 8 cups of water a day…more when you are working out
• Avoid alcohol; unnecessary calories and inhibits the burning of fat from fat deposits
• Avoid animal fats whenever possible; the only fats being consumed should be beneficial to your body; these are raw nuts and seeds, oils, avocados, fish, nut butters, such as almond butter
  • Stick to lean meat such as white chicken or turkey breast, and lean beef
• Switch to brown rice, pasta and bread instead of white…the fiber helps with weight loss because it helps you stay full longer
• Minimize your sweets and sugar intake as much as you can
• Increase vegetables as much as possible** very important…the more you increase your intake, the more weight you will lose…also increase fruit intake; but focus more on vegetables as they are lower in sugar
• Eat small balanced meals…try to eat every 3-4 hours, make sure there is a protein, healthy fat, and fiber in each meal…at least 1 serving of fruit or vegetables should be in each meal
• Walk before and after each meal when possible; 20-30min
• Avoid chewing gum; increases appetite
• Never use artificial sweeteners; increase appetite; toxic to the body
• You should be losing 0.5kg/week in order to lose only fat and no/minimal amount of muscle

If you are working out:

• After workout; 2 hours after workout eat a carbohydrate meal…such as whole wheat pasta, it refuels storage fast
• Whey Protein shake after workout- repairs muscle damage
• Make sure to drink a lot of water

If you can follow the diet above you can be in a pretty good shape in a 3 to 5 month period.
Remember that if you are working out your weight might not go down as you expect since your gaining muscle weight while loosing fat weight.

if u r thinking to get results in two months following what that sales person told u, u r dreaming bro, it will take u yearsssss.... what u really need is dianabole 50, deca 200, testosterone 400, trenbolone + proper food + 3 protein shake a day will do the job... and u will find result is 10 weeks ;)... body buildin is expensive, and whoever tells u that steroids is dangerous tell them so smokin and alcohol ;) all athletics around the world use STEROIDS....

i forgot to say , do not train more than 45 mins a day... 4 days a week are plenty for u...don't do like most of the idiots who stays hours and hours... and remember to train ur legs coz it helps your upper muscles grow faster, otherwise ur body will look funny later on... remember over trainin is not good... training + gear ( steroids) + proper food + REST= RESULTS... resting is important coz ur muscles grows while u r sleepin.... good luck

Very interesting thread, i was thinking about this matter earlier today.
I personally prefer cardio especially jogging or not used to bodybuilding yet (started 2 weeks ago).

However, ever since i started bodybuilding i noticed that my shoulders are getting wider and my body is taking a new shape which i really liked and got me a excited about the matter knowing that i only lost 1-2KG in a month but that's totally normal since I'm gaining muscles.

Yet, I'm far away from taking any protein or fat burners... it's really not worth it, I'm optimistic that i will get rid of my body fat and build some muscles by summer.

Good luck everyone =)

Hey xcoder,

Definitely stay away from fat burner, steroid or anything related to that...
As for protein shake it is important to have it after every workout session, since the role of the protein shake is to repair the muscle tissue that has been damaged by muscle volume increase... it doesn't play a role in increasing the muscle size... it will as well decrease that pain the next day after the workout since the muscles are being repaired.

Just as an FYI = )

Bass one question man ... should we take protein shakes even when we dont have workout sessions ?!
Thanks

Myself I usually take it after the work out session and the first thing in the morning of the next day. But the day I am not working out no I don't take the protein shake since you can get the basic protein required from eggs or white meat.

I used to do that in fact, i used to lift weights for an hour then cardio another hour until i felt it was really taking so long and killing me!
Ever since i started 2 days cardio 2 days weight lifting...

2 days lifting weight is good xcoder... That means you are wearing out your muscle.
I can recommend the following the following 4 days work out (which I am doing )
Day 1:- 20 min of cardio (incline the treadmill to 2 degrees)
- Biceps
- Chest
Make 3 different type of exercise and 3 rounds for each of them (each round between 10 and 15 lifts) and always alternate (one set of biceps and after it a set of chest) that would have your bicep muscle rest while working on your chest.

Day 2:- 20 min of cardio
- triceps
- shoulders
Make 3 different type of exercise and 3 rounds for each of them (each round between 10 and 15 lifts) and always alternate.

Day 3:- 20 min of cardio
- back
- legs
Make 3 different type of exercise and 3 rounds for each of them (each round between 10 and 15 lifts) and always alternate.

Day 4:- 30 min of cardio
- abs

Make sure to take your time doing the exercises and don't rush to finish them = )

Usually a workout day takes me 1 hour to 1 hour and a half..

Regards

1-it doesn't make sense... all what u said is true so the protein PLAY a role in increasin the muscle coz without protein and nutritions ur muscles won't grow...

2- if people, who wanna put on weight and muscles, listen to ur advise ( to stay away from steroids ) it will takes them about 20 years to grow muscles coz at a stage the muscles stop growing... and if u think there is someone with big natural muscles , trust me u r wrong...

3- xcoder- u need to set ur goal, u need to say what u want??? u wanna lose fat and put on muscles???? if u wanna lose fat , u need at LEAST 40 minutes cardio, and cardio is not only joggin, cardio can be anything that speed up ur heart rate... coz if u walk on the tradmill u want lose fat, u start losing fat when ur heart rate is faster than normal.... so u need to run not to walk... and u can do as mared said, and u need to watch ur food coz we are talking about losing fat... btw muscles help u lose fat quicker...

first of all , 2/3 of the muscle is made of water and 1/3 of protein... YESSSSSS u need the protein shake 7 days a week even when u don't train.... coz ur muscles as i said earlier they grow while u r resting not while u r workin out.... and for mared to say that he can get the protein from eggs and white meat, dats right but u need to eat about 300 eggs and 75 fishes to get the protein ur muscles need to recover...coz no one can eat that much , they made protein shake instead ... so ur muscles need nutrition every 2-3 hours, so better for u to have breakfast with eggs and after two hours have a protein shake, coz protein shake is a meal... SO in short answer , yes u need protein shake every day specially after training and before u sleep coz ur muscles grow while u r sleepin and restin.... otherwise u can do as merad says and eat about 200 eggs...

Ok guys, i visited couple of hours ago Pro-Nutrition in Hamra !!
The guy there said that he has 2 types of Whey (Both Optimum Nutrition);
the first one 24g of proteins and 2g of carbs / serving !!
the second one 30g of proteins and 4g of carbs / serving !!
which one should i choose ... ?!
Btw they cost 100$ each ... !!

hmm...the one I am using is 28g of proteins and 2g of carbs...
I am not sure what they use in lebanon...but $100...man that's expensive...what's the container weight? The largest container here cost $52...

I Think 4.8 Lbps the largest one !!

That's going to last you for aprox one month...
Anyway go with the 24g protein...

if u want u can buy it through ebay, but i dunno if they deliver it to lebanon... last time i bought 20 kg of ISOLATE protein for about $400... the prices here in sydney are about 100% for 4 kg of normal protein that u buy from the shop ...
if u want my opinion isolate is the best protein coz it is pure protein ( more than 90% and up to 97 % pure protein)... most of the factories they get the isolate and mix it with flavours and 100 other things... if u haven't heard of isolate or concentrate protein, go on google and read about them... they r 100% better than any other protein product, and they have no flavour, u mix it with any flavour u like....

"Optimum Nutrition" is one of the best in this major
ON Whey Protein 5 Lbs (77 servings) costs in europe 55 euros (about 75 $) ... so I think 100 $ are too expensive for this

can you give me any product name of "isolate protein" ?

as i understood u live in europe... if dats the case, buy it in bulk through ebay.com... but anyway if u want a brand name, go to ebay and search for isolate protein and u get plenty of brands... however when u go to the protein shop, ask him for isolate protein and he should be abe to help u... it is better for u to buy it with ur friends in bulk, like a bag of 20 kg coz u would be able to save at least about $100....

No i don't walk, i jog around 20-30 minutes at 8km/h, i could hear my heart beats. I lose around 550 calories on heavy days and around 400 on regular days.

another question guys, if you take whey for like 4 months and ur body muscles grew up ... do they shrink and become smaller if you stop taking whey but continue your workout normally ?!