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"زلزال النهود " حملة نسائيَّة إحتجاجًا عل&
"زلزال النهود" حملة تقودها جمعيَّات نسائيَّة تضمّ عشرات الآلاف من النساء تعمد إلى تعرية صدورهن إحتجاجًا على فتوى رجل دين إيراني إعتبرت النساء السبب الرئيس وراء حصول الزلازل .و بدأت في أستراليا والولايات المتحدة حملة نسائية بعنوان "زلزال النهود" من المتوقع أن تمتد إلى أنحاء متفرقة من العالم وخاصة في الدول الغربية، تعمد خلالها عشرات الآلاف من النساء إلى تعرية صدورهن, احتجاجاً على تصريحات عالم الدين الإيراني كاظم صديقي الذي اعتبر أن ملابس النساء غير المحتشمة هي السبب وراء حدوث الزلازل. وبعد أيام على الإعلان عنها، انطلقت الحملة التي تشارك فيها نساء يكشفن عن صدورهن ويمسكن بأجهزة سيزموغراف الخاصة بقياس الزلازل، في ملبورن الاسترالية وولاية انديانا الأميركية، إلا أنه يتوقع تمددها إلى عواصم غربية أخرى، إذ دعت الطالبة الأميركية جين ماكرايت (22 عاماً) النساء في مختلف أنحاء العالم عبر موقع التواصل الاجتماعي "فايس بوك" إلى تعرية أجسامهن ليؤكدن لرجل الدين الإيراني أن أجسادهن لا تثير غضب الأرض وتتسبب في حدوث الزلازل. واكدت ماكرايت "سأطلب من المشاركات معي في الحملة لبس ملابس أكثر كشفا للجسم لكي أثبت لآية الله صديقي انه لا علاقة للزلازل بهزات جسم المرأة ولا بالحشمة او حتى بالانحلال الخلقي"، مضيفة "أنا سأرتدي أكثر ملابسي كشفاً للجسم، أي ذلك الذي أرتديه للخروج الليلي في المدينة وأشجع كذلك الاناث المشككات في ما سأقوم به الى الانضمام لحملتنا". وحظي نداء ماكرايت، التي تدرس في جامعة لافايت في ولاية أنديانا، بتأييد من قبل عشرات آلاف من النساء المترددات على "فيس بوك". وكان كاظم صديقي إمام جمعة طهران الموقت، اعتبر في خطبة ان تزايد العلاقات الجنسية غير المشروعة هو سبب تزايد الزلازل في العالم، وان "الكوارث الطبيعية هي نتيجة سلوكنا". واضاف ان "الكثير من النساء اللواتي لا يرتدين ملابسهن، يفسدن عفتهن وينشرن الزنا في المجتمع ويقدن الشباب الى الضلال، وان زيادة العلاقات الجنسية غير المشروعة يزيد من عدد الزلازل" في العالم. واكد آية الله صديقي "ليس لدينا خيار آخر غير الالتزام بقواعد الاسلام"، مذكرا بتصريحات ادلى بها الرئيس محمود احمدي نجاد مؤخرا وحذر فيها من خطر الزلازل في طهران. |
مش ناقصنا انسان سخيف وخرفان متل هيدا يحكي باسم الدين... واللي اسخف من هيك هي هالمظاهرات والمجتمع الغربي السخيف |
isnt there any pictures?:32::crazy::dev:
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Let's organize one in Lebanon :P
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Pics or it never happend.
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such moronic statement deserves such reaction.
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Orgnize one in leb and I volenteeer to capture pics :P and I volenteer to make interviews and take size if u want :P
lets talk seriously...do u consider this reaction is good? ino girls would you make alike? guys would u allow ur sisters to do that? whatever that Sheikh said ..... why to respond? isnt there a point of view? isnt he free to whatever he want? or just becoz he is persian? do people respond to all what is said in the world?? ino C'mon Does Jesus or Mohammad or even Mosis allowed just dressings? is it acceptable to go out with clothes as pikinis? is it allowed to make S*X on roads? is it ok to make love before ven knowing him? would anyone accpet such action for his wife daughter sister????? |
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I know that our sisters are free to do what ever they want.....but if u saw ur sis on TV naked would u resay that? I dont think that u would be happy seeing ur sister naked on TV or newpaper. the big deal is that they caught a world for PERSIAN sheikh and wanted to represent that Muslim and specially persian are agiant human rights are against freedom are against women rights. this is like drwaing bad caricatures about Mohammad and like baning "7ejab" from europe ....many offensive actions ;) |
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christians say that jesus nsalab muslims say jesus didnt jews say that jesus is son of adultary hindose says tha the cow is God Romans said that the sun is God google the difference between believes and religion and u will see that everyone has the right to belive whatever he wants.... ino c'mon KSA cuts the hand of the theive......does it have right to do that in the name of religion? they say that christian are kafers and its ok to steel them and rape their females. is the religion says so? isnt islam says that christians are brothers and they are "ketaby" which mean that they treated as muslims and better? havent mohammad went to "Athiopia" to the king "Najashi" and stayed their? everyone is F**ng in the religion but only politics choose what is wrong |
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he could have talked about the veil and stuff without pointing at other girls that they're responsible 3an l kaweris... Quote:
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this is not a word... and he's criticizing western people and girls especially... it's like they're responsible for all those earthquakes and stuff....so he's "attacking" them and they have the right to reply the way they want.. Quote:
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again i say u cannot consider him attacking western because simply there is such action in shiite communities and we know nothing about shiite belive to say if they would accept or no. and they are who must protest or accept not other religions THE PROTEST IS ATTACKING IRAN THEN SHIITES THEN MUSLIMS THEN RIGHT TO SPEAK AND TALK ino c'mon there is who says that shiite are kafirs, there is who say mokawama are terorists, there who says christians are kafers. Have any of mention been affected? no..they can say whatever they want and we know what we are and do what we want |
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And yeah if that's the way Iran, Muslims and Shiites thinks (which i doubt it....) that doesn't mean i have to accept it! Quote:
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ان كيدهن عظيم...... |
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هيدي اسمها مسخرة، اولا آية الله صديقي ما قال هيك بل قال ان العلاقات الغير مشروعة هي تتسبب بالزلازل ، قطعا قد نتفق او لا نتفق مع ما قاله، لكننا ان عدنا الى كلامه الحقيقي الذي لم يحرفه الملحدون الماديون ليقولوا ان هذا ينافي العلم وليبدأوا سمفونيتهم الكذابة المعهودة. الكلام الذي اراد ان يوصله آية الله صديقي هو مسألة الحكمة الالهية والثواب والعقاب، عندنا في الاسلام نؤمن ان لله حكمة في كل شيء، ووراء كل ما يحصل حكمة من عند الله قد نعرفها واغلب الاحيان لا نعرفها. جاء كلام آية الله صديقي ليفسر الكوارث على انها عقاب من الله نتيجة الفسق والفجور الحاصل، واكرر قد نتفق او لا نتفق معه لكنه يتحدث برأيه ،من منطلق الحكمة الالهية. وهذا الكلام لا يتناقض مع مسألة العلم ، بمعنى انه لم يقل ان علم الجيولوجيا غير صحيح!!!كما اراد الماديون الملحدون تصويره، بالعكس، ان الزلزال يحصل نتيجة تحرك الصفائح وهذا السبب العلمي الذي لا نختلف عليه، اما السبب الماورائي فلكل شخص الحق بان يؤمن بما يريد وكلام آية الله صديقي لا يلزم احد اما هؤلاء "المسخرجية" الملحدون الذين يتخذون من كل كلمة ينطق بها رجل دين سببا للهجوم على الدين، وبات الهجوم على الدين وعلى الله شغلهم الشاغل علما انهم لا يؤمنون به!! ، فليعيرونا سكوتهم ، ومبروك عليهم كل النهود والمؤخرات. |
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وأنا رأيي أن توقف إستعمال كلمة ملحد على أنها "شيء بخري" لأن لا أجد شيئاً خطأاً فيها. |
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Moqawem could you please provide us with Ayatollah Sadiki's full statement?? بس لنعرف تفاصيل البحث وما نفوت بتأويل غلط وبتفسير سطحي للموضوع |
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واما استعمالي لكلمة ملحد فليس لكونها شيئا يخزي انما لكون مروجي هذا الامر هم الملحدون الماديون. Quote:
في حكم الهية لا نعرفها ، واغلب الحكم لا نعرفها، قد يكون لله حكمة في عقاب البعض واختبار الآخر ، وانتهاء اعمار آخرين ، وو...و...و...! يعني الامر ليس محصور بمفهوم العقاب فقط |
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من فترة وعم حاول جيب الخطاب ، المشكلة انه غير منقول اعلاميا وهي ع فكرة ، عبارة ومرقت خلال خطبة الجمعة في طهران..وليست فتوى كما ذكرها النص الاساسي ، وكما تداولها الملحدون الماديون. |
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and although I fully support any boob related cause, this one is just silly. I will happily watch but I will not advertise :P |
Moqawem you really got a problem with Atheists.
You should see someone :p |
Wh*res just found for themselves a new reason to justify their acts.
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He has the right to believe whatever he wants and they have the right to show whatever they want as long as it doesn't break the law in the country they're in.
But I have to say that people like these (both groups) are what's wrong with this world. Not a single one of them accepts that everyone has the right to form their own opinion. He is to dumb to open his mind and they are so busy thinking they're better than everybody else who disagrees with them. |
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مشكلتي بانتقائيتهم ، وبسخافتهم، المشكلة وين ، المشكلة انهم (معظمهم ت ما اشمل) يتخذون الدين والدينيين والله اعداء ، وبيعمدوا ت يحوروا اي شي بيصدر عن لسان اي رجل دين ، اي هفوة ، اي غلطة ، ليحملوها ل الله وللدين ، وهيي اذا كانت غلطة بيتحملها اللي اخطأها فحسب. |
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If u are a believer u would accept such sayings if u are not offcourse u willl not accept and this is ur right...but believers have right to belive too ya3ne let christians make protest against muslims becoz they say ino jesus ma nsalab or let muslims make a protest agains christian becoz jesus is prophet and we dont accept to say ino nsalab there is millions of thinkings in the world and we have to accept that million or we will be mota3asebeen. w thoso who are protesting.....law ma fee msale under baton ma t7arako...law ma they agreed that talking of the sheikh is right ma t7arako ;) |
I re-ask why exactly when a persian sheikh said so....a protest is fired?
check the manaber of muslims (kel el mazeheb suni shiite zayde yazeede .......72 party) every moment their is a sheikh that says when people disobey God a punishment will happen. These Adultary clothing are disobeying Gods and and and......before that persian when tsunami happened Sheikh Khaled elrashed make a khotba for about 2.5 hours saying such thing. the khotba is called "هذا ما رايت" it is found in lebanese market...I can hand it for anyone who want. why no one protested wa2ta???????? answer me w khedo 1000 :P |
Okay...Chemistry break.
Where do I go to :D? This here good forum :D (Yes I do feel the need to fill people in on my studying progress) Moving on. The title of their so very honoring protest is in itself pathetic.I mean Seriously? They need a life.And some clothes so they don't parade around naked at every chance they get. Supposingly his statements are the most outrageous claims the very educated people have heard so far,they still don't need to do what they so eagerly want to do. If they believe so strongly about this and are actually serious,they could've thought of far more efficient and creative ways to get their point across rather than prancing around naked because it's the 21st century and they're free to do so. People will probably remember that there were lots of naked people but will forget the why's and how's of things leading up to this. Anyone that goes out naked for something so insignificant in comparison to going out naked doesn't need a reason to go out naked. So ya...stupid lolz. Anyway,you can't take a teeny tiny portion of what he said and use it in whatever context you see fit. Islamically speaking,moqawem explained it perfectly so I don't really need to repeat anything. Also,I think I found a small youtube clip of what he said,but since it's in Persian 4D I couldn't really put anything together obviously. Another also 4D lots of different religious figures make outrageous claims all over the world 4D Example: Quote:
Could I blow that out of proportion with every shred of sarcasm within me?Yeeessss 4D Would I?I could care less Oh and btw,no one went out naked then...too cold maybe :(? Lesson of the day kids :D ...don't make pacts with the Devil 4D Oh no wait..real lesson of the day 4D : stop it with the usual assumptions and taking things out of proportion for the sole reason of him being a religious figure. If what is said is completely true and has not been taken out of context and\or is not over exaggerated whatsoever then just ignore it. Quote:
Religious implications aside,They could dress decently without a veil.I'm sure you out of all people agree :D Quote:
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So.....I'm still waiting for the pics...
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اني أجد القصة مضحكة رغم ما يقول البعض انها مبكية وتمس بالقيم والاخلاق وتمس في حركة النجوم والكواكب. لبرهةٍ ظننت أنا هذا المنتدى منتدى فلسفة وديانات..
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Well you should really start watching your language when you talk about Atheists. Just because a group of people decided to go naked in the streets it doesn't mean that Atheists are stupid and "mas5arjiyeh" In addition, I don't see anything in this pointing to Atheists. And you don't see me mocking you (A Muslim dude) because of what el-Qaida is doing [notice that if I want to think towards Muslims the way you do towards Atheists, I should be mocking your shit all over your face], or you don't see me mocking Muslims because religious girls have to hide their heads and hair. Although, not to mention that Atheists have the right to mock you back the way you're doing to them, you don't see any Atheist in here mocking your holly religion. So you ought to watch out from now on, because the Mas5arjiyeh might strike back. |
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He doesn't have to watch anything, he has the right to say whatever the hell he wants to say, just like you or any other person in this world. بوحي هل المناسبة بقدملكن داين كوك.. I bet you can't tell him to watch his mouth when he is mocking atheists. Or you can, but guess what, he doesn't give a SHIT. Neither do anyone else in the world. You or others can mock Islam or Christianity as you wish, trust me, real muslims and christians won't care, because they know that there is who will protect his reputation, and he is not waiting for us to defend it. ثانكس |
he is not mocking atheists in this bid, he is mocking one jerk that sneezed in his face and made fun of his beliefs. by the way, I hate that bid, it is a simple story, and he drags it for 8 bloody min
edit:at least I think it is this joke... ): |
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There's a very huge difference between a Comedian mocking Atheists, and a person in a forum mocking his fellow members. I'm surprised you compared between those 2 situations. |
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