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SysTaMatIcS 04-28-2010 11:38 PM

"زلزال النهود " حملة نسائيَّة إحتجاجًا عل&
 
"زلزال النهود" حملة تقودها جمعيَّات نسائيَّة تضمّ عشرات الآلاف من النساء تعمد إلى تعرية صدورهن إحتجاجًا على فتوى رجل دين إيراني إعتبرت النساء السبب الرئيس وراء حصول الزلازل .و بدأت في أستراليا والولايات المتحدة حملة نسائية بعنوان "زلزال النهود" من المتوقع أن تمتد إلى أنحاء متفرقة من العالم وخاصة في الدول الغربية، تعمد خلالها عشرات الآلاف من النساء إلى تعرية صدورهن, احتجاجاً على تصريحات عالم الدين الإيراني كاظم صديقي الذي اعتبر أن ملابس النساء غير المحتشمة هي السبب وراء حدوث الزلازل.
وبعد أيام على الإعلان عنها، انطلقت الحملة التي تشارك فيها نساء يكشفن عن صدورهن ويمسكن بأجهزة سيزموغراف الخاصة بقياس الزلازل، في ملبورن الاسترالية وولاية انديانا الأميركية، إلا أنه يتوقع تمددها إلى عواصم غربية أخرى، إذ دعت الطالبة الأميركية جين ماكرايت (22 عاماً) النساء في مختلف أنحاء العالم عبر موقع التواصل الاجتماعي "فايس بوك" إلى تعرية أجسامهن ليؤكدن لرجل الدين الإيراني أن أجسادهن لا تثير غضب الأرض وتتسبب في حدوث الزلازل.
واكدت ماكرايت "سأطلب من المشاركات معي في الحملة لبس ملابس أكثر كشفا للجسم لكي أثبت لآية الله صديقي انه لا علاقة للزلازل بهزات جسم المرأة ولا بالحشمة او حتى بالانحلال الخلقي"، مضيفة "أنا سأرتدي أكثر ملابسي كشفاً للجسم، أي ذلك الذي أرتديه للخروج الليلي في المدينة وأشجع كذلك الاناث المشككات في ما سأقوم به الى الانضمام لحملتنا". وحظي نداء ماكرايت، التي تدرس في جامعة لافايت في ولاية أنديانا، بتأييد من قبل عشرات آلاف من النساء المترددات على "فيس بوك".
وكان كاظم صديقي إمام جمعة طهران الموقت، اعتبر في خطبة ان تزايد العلاقات الجنسية غير المشروعة هو سبب تزايد الزلازل في العالم، وان "الكوارث الطبيعية هي نتيجة سلوكنا". واضاف ان "الكثير من النساء اللواتي لا يرتدين ملابسهن، يفسدن عفتهن وينشرن الزنا في المجتمع ويقدن الشباب الى الضلال، وان زيادة العلاقات الجنسية غير المشروعة يزيد من عدد الزلازل" في العالم. واكد آية الله صديقي "ليس لدينا خيار آخر غير الالتزام بقواعد الاسلام"، مذكرا بتصريحات ادلى بها الرئيس محمود احمدي نجاد مؤخرا وحذر فيها من خطر الزلازل في طهران.

H@SSàN 04-28-2010 11:49 PM

مش ناقصنا انسان سخيف وخرفان متل هيدا يحكي باسم الدين... واللي اسخف من هيك هي هالمظاهرات والمجتمع الغربي السخيف

7anzala 04-29-2010 07:51 AM

isnt there any pictures?:32::crazy::dev:

xcoder 04-29-2010 11:13 AM

Let's organize one in Lebanon :P

Tawa 04-29-2010 11:19 AM

Pics or it never happend.

Kingroudy 04-29-2010 11:56 AM

such moronic statement deserves such reaction.

7anzala 04-29-2010 12:37 PM

Orgnize one in leb and I volenteeer to capture pics :P and I volenteer to make interviews and take size if u want :P

lets talk seriously...do u consider this reaction is good? ino girls would you make alike? guys would u allow ur sisters to do that?

whatever that Sheikh said ..... why to respond? isnt there a point of view? isnt he free to whatever he want? or just becoz he is persian?

do people respond to all what is said in the world??

ino C'mon Does Jesus or Mohammad or even Mosis allowed just dressings? is it acceptable to go out with clothes as pikinis? is it allowed to make S*X on roads? is it ok to make love before ven knowing him? would anyone accpet such action for his wife daughter sister?????

-t-o-n-y- 04-29-2010 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 7anzala (Post 213832)
ino C'mon Does Jesus or Mohammad or even Mosis allowed just dressings?

well 1st i didn't understand ur point in the first part
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is it acceptable to go out with clothes as pikinis?
2nd yes it is acceptable in some countries...and in others it isn't....
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is it allowed to make S*X on roads?
who talked about having S*X on roads ....
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would anyone accpet such action for his wife daughter sister???
which action?....protesting with those clothes? well they're free i can't tell them not to...plus what's the big deal....

-t-o-n-y- 04-29-2010 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 7anzala (Post 213831)
lets talk seriously...do u consider this reaction is good? ino girls would you make alike?

well im still not sure if this story is true so i can't really decide if it's good or not....
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guys would u allow ur sisters to do that?
what does my sister has to do with this....and allow my sister? who am i to stop her....fye onsa7a...bass she's free....
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whatever that Sheikh said ..... why to respond? isnt there a point of view? isnt he free to whatever he want? or just becoz he is persian?
well read again this sentence....just like the Sheikh is free and there's a point of view and free ....they are also free and has a point of view ....
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do people respond to all what is said in the world??
they can respond to whatever they want....

7anzala 04-29-2010 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by -t-o-n-y- (Post 213834)
well 1st i didn't understand ur point in the first part

I meant does religion accept wearing alike? ya3ne have u ever seen a girl in a masjed or church wearing pikinies?!

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Originally Posted by -t-o-n-y- (Post 213834)
2nd yes it is acceptable in some countries...and in others it isn't....

ok in iran(or lets say in shiite community) it is not accepted, and that sheikh didnt say hey u look american what are wearing or look christian or or ....he is talking about the shiite girl and specially who refer to iran becoz it is "marja3eyah" for many shiite people.

I know that our sisters are free to do what ever they want.....but if u saw ur sis on TV naked would u resay that? I dont think that u would be happy seeing ur sister naked on TV or newpaper.

the big deal is that they caught a world for PERSIAN sheikh and wanted to represent that Muslim and specially persian are agiant human rights are against freedom are against women rights. this is like drwaing bad caricatures about Mohammad and like baning "7ejab" from europe ....many offensive actions ;)

H@SSàN 04-29-2010 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 7anzala (Post 213831)
isnt he free to whatever he want?

No he isn't... No one has the right to say such silly statments in the name of religion !

7anzala 04-29-2010 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HaSSàN-87 (Post 213837)
No he isn't... No one has the right to say such silly statments in the name of religion !

its his religion its his believes...who are we to say to him u dont have the right tyo believe?

christians say that jesus nsalab
muslims say jesus didnt
jews say that jesus is son of adultary
hindose says tha the cow is God
Romans said that the sun is God

google the difference between believes and religion and u will see that everyone has the right to belive whatever he wants....

ino c'mon KSA cuts the hand of the theive......does it have right to do that in the name of religion?
they say that christian are kafers and its ok to steel them and rape their females. is the religion says so? isnt islam says that christians are brothers and they are "ketaby" which mean that they treated as muslims and better? havent mohammad went to "Athiopia" to the king "Najashi" and stayed their?

everyone is F**ng in the religion but only politics choose what is wrong

-t-o-n-y- 04-29-2010 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 7anzala (Post 213836)
I meant does religion accept wearing alike? ya3ne have u ever seen a girl in a masjed or church wearing pikinies?!

but those protesting might be atheists or whatever....


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ok in iran(or lets say in shiite community) it is not accepted, and that sheikh didnt say hey u look american what are wearing or look christian or or ....he is talking about the shiite girl and specially who refer to iran becoz it is "marja3eyah" for many shiite people.
"عتبر في خطبة ان تزايد العلاقات الجنسية غير المشروعة هو سبب تزايد الزلازل في العالم، وان "الكوارث الطبيعية هي نتيجة سلوكنا". واضاف ان "الكثير من النساء اللواتي لا يرتدين ملابسهن، يفسدن عفتهن وينشرن الزنا في المجتمع ويقدن الشباب الى الضلال، وان زيادة العلاقات الجنسية غير المشروعة يزيد من عدد الزلازل" في العالم."
he could have talked about the veil and stuff without pointing at other girls that they're responsible 3an l kaweris...

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I know that our sisters are free to do what ever they want.....but if u saw ur sis on TV naked would u resay that? I dont think that u would be happy seeing ur sister naked on TV or newpaper.
again what my sister has to do with this....and she's free whether im happy or not...

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the big deal is that they caught a world for PERSIAN sheikh and wanted to represent that Muslim and specially persian are agiant human rights are against freedom are against women rights.
"عتبر في خطبة ان تزايد العلاقات الجنسية غير المشروعة هو سبب تزايد الزلازل في العالم، وان "الكوارث الطبيعية هي نتيجة سلوكنا". واضاف ان "الكثير من النساء اللواتي لا يرتدين ملابسهن، يفسدن عفتهن وينشرن الزنا في المجتمع ويقدن الشباب الى الضلال، وان زيادة العلاقات الجنسية غير المشروعة يزيد من عدد الزلازل" في العالم."
this is not a word... and he's criticizing western people and girls especially... it's like they're responsible for all those earthquakes and stuff....so he's "attacking" them and they have the right to reply the way they want..

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this is like drwaing bad caricatures about Mohammad and like baning "7ejab" from europe ....many offensive actions ;)
not really....

-t-o-n-y- 04-29-2010 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 7anzala (Post 213839)
its his religion its his believes...who are we to say to him u dont have the right tyo believe?

he's speaking in the name of Shiite people and i don't think they accept this kind of talking...

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christians say that jesus nsalab
muslims say jesus didnt
jews say that jesus is son of adultary
hindose says tha the cow is God
Romans said that the sun is God
okay.....

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google the difference between believes and religion and u will see that everyone has the right to belive whatever he wants...
so....
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ino c'mon KSA cuts the hand of the theive......does it have right to do that in the name of religion?
they say that christian are kafers and its ok to steel them and rape their females. is the religion says so? isnt islam says that christians are brothers and they are "ketaby" which mean that they treated as muslims and better? havent mohammad went to "Athiopia" to the king "Najashi" and stayed their?
what this have to do with the topic ....

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everyone is F**ng in the religion but only politics choose what is wrong
please explain more since i didn't understand what u mean...

7anzala 04-29-2010 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by -t-o-n-y- (Post 213841)

what this have to do with the topic .......

i mean that many are making things that is not related to their religion ya3ne they are making things that religion doesnt accept

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Originally Posted by -t-o-n-y- (Post 213841)
please explain more since i didn't understand what u mean...

there is a movie in the lebanese market called "هذا ما رايت" it is about tsunAmi and a KSA Sunni Sheikh is saying exactly what that persian said....why no one protested?

again i say u cannot consider him attacking western because simply there is such action in shiite communities
and we know nothing about shiite belive to say if they would accept or no. and they are who must protest or accept not other religions

THE PROTEST IS ATTACKING IRAN THEN SHIITES THEN MUSLIMS THEN RIGHT TO SPEAK AND TALK

ino c'mon there is who says that shiite are kafirs, there is who say mokawama are terorists, there who says christians are kafers. Have any of mention been affected? no..they can say whatever they want and we know what we are and do what we want

-t-o-n-y- 04-29-2010 02:52 PM

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THE PROTEST IS ATTACKING IRAN THEN SHIITES THEN MUSLIMS THEN RIGHT TO SPEAK AND TALK

ino c'mon there is who says that shiite are kafirs, there is who say mokawama are terorists, there who says christians are kafers. Have any of mention been affected? no..they can say whatever they want and we know what we are and do what we want
Just like this Sheikh has the right to speak and talk they have the right to protest!!
And yeah if that's the way Iran, Muslims and Shiites thinks (which i doubt it....) that doesn't mean i have to accept it!

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again i say u cannot consider him attacking western because simply there is such action in shiite communities
and we know nothing about shiite belive to say if they would accept or no.
ur contradicting yourself.....u talk as if u know about shiite communities....and then u say we know nothing....

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and they are who must protest or accept not other religions
nonsense....

sciencedoor 04-29-2010 05:55 PM

ان كيدهن عظيم......

moqawem 04-29-2010 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by systamatics (Post 213804)
"زلزال النهود" حملة تقودها جمعيَّات نسائيَّة تضمّ عشرات الآلاف من النساء تعمد إلى تعرية صدورهن إحتجاجًا على فتوى رجل دين إيراني إعتبرت النساء السبب الرئيس وراء حصول الزلازل .و بدأت في أستراليا والولايات المتحدة حملة نسائية بعنوان "زلزال النهود" من المتوقع أن تمتد إلى أنحاء متفرقة من العالم وخاصة في الدول الغربية، تعمد خلالها عشرات الآلاف من النساء إلى تعرية صدورهن, احتجاجاً على تصريحات عالم الدين الإيراني كاظم صديقي الذي اعتبر أن ملابس النساء غير المحتشمة هي السبب وراء حدوث الزلازل.
وبعد أيام على الإعلان عنها، انطلقت الحملة التي تشارك فيها نساء يكشفن عن صدورهن ويمسكن بأجهزة سيزموغراف الخاصة بقياس الزلازل، في ملبورن الاسترالية وولاية انديانا الأميركية، إلا أنه يتوقع تمددها إلى عواصم غربية أخرى، إذ دعت الطالبة الأميركية جين ماكرايت (22 عاماً) النساء في مختلف أنحاء العالم عبر موقع التواصل الاجتماعي "فايس بوك" إلى تعرية أجسامهن ليؤكدن لرجل الدين الإيراني أن أجسادهن لا تثير غضب الأرض وتتسبب في حدوث الزلازل.
واكدت ماكرايت "سأطلب من المشاركات معي في الحملة لبس ملابس أكثر كشفا للجسم لكي أثبت لآية الله صديقي انه لا علاقة للزلازل بهزات جسم المرأة ولا بالحشمة او حتى بالانحلال الخلقي"، مضيفة "أنا سأرتدي أكثر ملابسي كشفاً للجسم، أي ذلك الذي أرتديه للخروج الليلي في المدينة وأشجع كذلك الاناث المشككات في ما سأقوم به الى الانضمام لحملتنا". وحظي نداء ماكرايت، التي تدرس في جامعة لافايت في ولاية أنديانا، بتأييد من قبل عشرات آلاف من النساء المترددات على "فيس بوك".
وكان كاظم صديقي إمام جمعة طهران الموقت، اعتبر في خطبة ان تزايد العلاقات الجنسية غير المشروعة هو سبب تزايد الزلازل في العالم، وان "الكوارث الطبيعية هي نتيجة سلوكنا". واضاف ان "الكثير من النساء اللواتي لا يرتدين ملابسهن، يفسدن عفتهن وينشرن الزنا في المجتمع ويقدن الشباب الى الضلال، وان زيادة العلاقات الجنسية غير المشروعة يزيد من عدد الزلازل" في العالم. واكد آية الله صديقي "ليس لدينا خيار آخر غير الالتزام بقواعد الاسلام"، مذكرا بتصريحات ادلى بها الرئيس محمود احمدي نجاد مؤخرا وحذر فيها من خطر الزلازل في طهران.

هيدي اسمها مسخرة،
اولا آية الله صديقي ما قال هيك
بل قال ان العلاقات الغير مشروعة هي تتسبب بالزلازل ، قطعا قد نتفق او لا نتفق مع ما قاله،
لكننا ان عدنا الى كلامه الحقيقي الذي لم يحرفه الملحدون الماديون ليقولوا ان هذا ينافي العلم وليبدأوا سمفونيتهم الكذابة المعهودة.
الكلام الذي اراد ان يوصله آية الله صديقي هو مسألة الحكمة الالهية والثواب والعقاب،
عندنا في الاسلام نؤمن ان لله حكمة في كل شيء، ووراء كل ما يحصل حكمة من عند الله قد نعرفها واغلب الاحيان لا نعرفها.
جاء كلام آية الله صديقي ليفسر الكوارث على انها عقاب من الله نتيجة الفسق والفجور الحاصل، واكرر قد نتفق او لا نتفق معه لكنه يتحدث برأيه ،من منطلق الحكمة الالهية.
وهذا الكلام لا يتناقض مع مسألة العلم ، بمعنى انه لم يقل ان علم الجيولوجيا غير صحيح!!!كما اراد الماديون الملحدون تصويره، بالعكس، ان الزلزال يحصل نتيجة تحرك الصفائح وهذا السبب العلمي الذي لا نختلف عليه، اما السبب الماورائي فلكل شخص الحق بان يؤمن بما يريد وكلام آية الله صديقي لا يلزم احد

اما هؤلاء "المسخرجية" الملحدون الذين يتخذون من كل كلمة ينطق بها رجل دين سببا للهجوم على الدين، وبات الهجوم على الدين وعلى الله شغلهم الشاغل علما انهم لا يؤمنون به!! ، فليعيرونا سكوتهم ، ومبروك عليهم كل النهود والمؤخرات
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Kingroudy 04-29-2010 06:40 PM

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بل قال ان العلاقات الغير مشروعة هي تتسبب بالزلازل ، قطعا قد نتفق او لا نتفق مع ما قاله،
وهل من المعقول أن نتفق معه؟
وأنا رأيي أن توقف إستعمال كلمة ملحد على أنها "شيء بخري" لأن لا أجد شيئاً خطأاً فيها.

SysTaMatIcS 04-29-2010 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by moqawem (Post 213857)
هيدي اسمها مسخرة،
اولا آية الله صديقي ما قال هيك
بل قال ان العلاقات الغير مشروعة هي تتسبب بالزلازل ، قطعا قد نتفق او لا نتفق مع ما قاله،
لكننا ان عدنا الى كلامه الحقيقي الذي لم يحرفه الملحدون الماديون ليقولوا ان هذا ينافي العلم وليبدأوا سمفونيتهم الكذابة المعهودة.
الكلام الذي اراد ان يوصله آية الله صديقي هو مسألة الحكمة الالهية والثواب والعقاب،
عندنا في الاسلام نؤمن ان لله حكمة في كل شيء، ووراء كل ما يحصل حكمة من عند الله قد نعرفها واغلب الاحيان لا نعرفها.
جاء كلام آية الله صديقي ليفسر الكوارث على انها عقاب من الله نتيجة الفسق والفجور الحاصل، واكرر قد نتفق او لا نتفق معه لكنه يتحدث برأيه ،من منطلق الحكمة الالهية.
وهذا الكلام لا يتناقض مع مسألة العلم ، بمعنى انه لم يقل ان علم الجيولوجيا غير صحيح!!!كما اراد الماديون الملحدون تصويره، بالعكس، ان الزلزال يحصل نتيجة تحرك الصفائح وهذا السبب العلمي الذي لا نختلف عليه، اما السبب الماورائي فلكل شخص الحق بان يؤمن بما يريد وكلام آية الله صديقي لا يلزم احد

اما هؤلاء "المسخرجية" الملحدون الذين يتخذون من كل كلمة ينطق بها رجل دين سببا للهجوم على الدين، وبات الهجوم على الدين وعلى الله شغلهم الشاغل علما انهم لا يؤمنون به!! ، فليعيرونا سكوتهم ، ومبروك عليهم كل النهود والمؤخرات
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God wouldnt kill thousands of people for a mistake done by few , hes not a "terrorist"

Kain 04-29-2010 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SysTaMatIcS (Post 213859)
God wouldnt kill thousands of people for a mistake done by few , hes not a "terrorist"

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Originally Posted by moqawem
واكرر قد نتفق او لا نتفق معه لكنه يتحدث برأيه ،من منطلق الحكمة الالهية



Moqawem could you please provide us with Ayatollah Sadiki's full statement??

بس لنعرف تفاصيل البحث وما نفوت بتأويل غلط وبتفسير سطحي للموضوع

moqawem 04-29-2010 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingroudy (Post 213858)

وهل من المعقول أن نتفق معه؟
وأنا رأيي أن توقف إستعمال كلمة ملحد على أنها "شيء بخري" لأن لا أجد شيئاً خطأاً فيها.

حر كل شخص يتفق او لا يتفق معه!!
واما استعمالي لكلمة ملحد فليس لكونها شيئا يخزي انما لكون مروجي هذا الامر هم الملحدون الماديون
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Quote:

Originally Posted by systamatics (Post 213859)
god wouldnt kill thousands of people for a mistake done by few , hes not a "terrorist"

لذلك قلت ان وراء الامر الحكمة الالهية،
في حكم الهية لا نعرفها ، واغلب الحكم لا نعرفها،
قد يكون لله حكمة في عقاب البعض واختبار الآخر ، وانتهاء اعمار آخرين ، وو...و...و...!
يعني الامر ليس محصور بمفهوم العقاب فقط

moqawem 04-29-2010 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kain (Post 213860)
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moqawem could you please provide us with ayatollah sadiki's full statement??

بس لنعرف تفاصيل البحث وما نفوت بتأويل غلط وبتفسير سطحي للموضوع


من فترة وعم حاول جيب الخطاب ، المشكلة انه غير منقول اعلاميا وهي ع فكرة ، عبارة ومرقت خلال خطبة الجمعة في طهران..وليست فتوى كما ذكرها النص الاساسي ، وكما تداولها الملحدون الماديون
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mr_j 04-29-2010 08:32 PM

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اما هؤلاء "المسخرجية" الملحدون الذين يتخذون من كل كلمة ينطق بها رجل دين سببا للهجوم على الدين
although I fit into this category, but for once, ana ma 5asné :hawhaw:
and although I fully support any boob related cause, this one is just silly. I will happily watch but I will not advertise :P

Tawa 04-29-2010 10:22 PM

Moqawem you really got a problem with Atheists.

You should see someone :p

El-Meghwar 04-29-2010 10:29 PM

Wh*res just found for themselves a new reason to justify their acts.

Adam 04-29-2010 10:59 PM

He has the right to believe whatever he wants and they have the right to show whatever they want as long as it doesn't break the law in the country they're in.

But I have to say that people like these (both groups) are what's wrong with this world.
Not a single one of them accepts that everyone has the right to form their own opinion.
He is to dumb to open his mind and they are so busy thinking they're better than everybody else who disagrees with them.

moqawem 04-29-2010 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tawa (Post 213881)
moqawem you really got a problem with atheists.

You should see someone :p

لا خيي ما عندي مشكلة معهم صدقني ،
مشكلتي بانتقائيتهم ، وبسخافتهم،
المشكلة وين ،
المشكلة انهم (معظمهم ت ما اشمل) يتخذون الدين والدينيين والله اعداء ، وبيعمدوا ت يحوروا اي شي بيصدر عن لسان اي رجل دين ، اي هفوة ، اي غلطة ، ليحملوها ل الله وللدين ، وهيي اذا كانت غلطة بيتحملها اللي اخطأها فحسب
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7anzala 04-30-2010 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SysTaMatIcS (Post 213859)
God wouldnt kill thousands of people for a mistake done by few , hes not a "terrorist"

ino c'mon Noah's Float... LOt's People ...Pheraoh ......and a lot it is a punishment God makes it on people who disobey him.
If u are a believer u would accept such sayings
if u are not offcourse u willl not accept and this is ur right...but believers have right to belive too

ya3ne let christians make protest against muslims becoz they say ino jesus ma nsalab
or let muslims make a protest agains christian becoz jesus is prophet and we dont accept to say ino nsalab

there is millions of thinkings in the world and we have to accept that million or we will be mota3asebeen.
w thoso who are protesting.....law ma fee msale under baton ma t7arako...law ma they agreed that talking of the sheikh is right ma t7arako ;)

7anzala 04-30-2010 07:06 AM

I re-ask why exactly when a persian sheikh said so....a protest is fired?

check the manaber of muslims (kel el mazeheb suni shiite zayde yazeede .......72 party) every moment their is a sheikh that says when people disobey God a punishment will happen. These Adultary clothing are disobeying Gods and and and......before that persian when tsunami happened Sheikh Khaled elrashed make a khotba for about 2.5 hours saying such thing. the khotba is called "هذا ما رايت" it is found in lebanese market...I can hand it for anyone who want. why no one protested wa2ta????????

answer me w khedo 1000 :P

The Cheese 04-30-2010 11:26 AM

Okay...Chemistry break.
Where do I go to :D? This here good forum :D
(Yes I do feel the need to fill people in on my studying progress)
Moving on.
The title of their so very honoring protest is in itself pathetic.I mean Seriously?
They need a life.And some clothes so they don't parade around naked at every chance they get.
Supposingly his statements are the most outrageous claims the very educated people have heard so far,they still don't need to do what they so eagerly want to do.
If they believe so strongly about this and are actually serious,they could've thought of far more efficient and creative ways to get their point across rather than prancing around naked because it's the 21st century and they're free to do so.
People will probably remember that there were lots of naked people but will forget the why's and how's of things leading up to this.
Anyone that goes out naked for something so insignificant in comparison to going out naked doesn't need a reason to go out naked.
So ya...stupid lolz.
Anyway,you can't take a teeny tiny portion of what he said and use it in whatever context you see fit.
Islamically speaking,moqawem explained it perfectly so I don't really need to repeat anything.
Also,I think I found a small youtube clip of what he said,but since it's in Persian 4D I couldn't really put anything together obviously.
Another also 4D lots of different religious figures make outrageous claims all over the world 4D
Example:
Quote:

Originally Posted by And uh you know...true story and whatever
On the Christian Broadcasting “700 Club” today, after a lengthy interview with a missionary who talked about helping the victims earthquake in Haiti, Rev. Pat Robertson had some interesting thoughts as to why the earthquake struck the impoverished nation:

"And you know, Kristi, something happened a long time ago in Haiti, and people might not want to talk about it.

“They were under the heel of the French, uh, you know Napoleon the 3rd and whatever, and they got together and swore a pact to the Devil.

“They said, 'We will serve you if you'll get us free from the French.'

“True story.
“And so the Devil said, 'Okay, it's a deal.’

“And, uh, they kicked the French out, you know, with Haitians revolted and got themselves free.

Source:http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...ith-satan.html
Could I blow that out of proportion with every shred of sarcasm within me?Yeeessss 4D
Would I?I could care less
Oh and btw,no one went out naked then...too cold maybe :(?
Lesson of the day kids :D ...don't make pacts with the Devil 4D
Oh no wait..real lesson of the day 4D : stop it with the usual assumptions and taking things out of proportion for the sole reason of him being a religious figure.
If what is said is completely true and has not been taken out of context and\or is not over exaggerated whatsoever then just ignore it.
Quote:

Originally Posted by -t-o-n-y- (Post 213840)
he could have talked about the veil and stuff without pointing at other girls that they're responsible 3an l kaweris...

Ma jeb seerit l veil from what's said here.All he talked about was people dressing inappropriately.(No veil reference :D)
Religious implications aside,They could dress decently without a veil.I'm sure you out of all people agree :D
Quote:

Originally Posted by -t-o-n-y- (Post 213840)
what does my sister has to do with this....and allow my sister? who am i to stop her....fye onsa7a...bass she's free.

As the people doing this are free,but being free and stupid with atrophied judgment is not a good combination.

Adam 04-30-2010 12:10 PM

So.....I'm still waiting for the pics...

P337 04-30-2010 12:45 PM

اني أجد القصة مضحكة رغم ما يقول البعض انها مبكية وتمس بالقيم والاخلاق وتمس في حركة النجوم والكواكب. لبرهةٍ ظننت أنا هذا المنتدى منتدى فلسفة وديانات..
مف أون

SysTaMatIcS 04-30-2010 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7anzala (Post 213892)
ino c'mon Noah's Float... LOt's People ...Pheraoh ......and a lot it is a punishment God makes it on people who disobey him.
If u are a believer u would accept such sayings
if u are not offcourse u willl not accept and this is ur right...but believers have right to belive too

ya3ne let christians make protest against muslims becoz they say ino jesus ma nsalab
or let muslims make a protest agains christian becoz jesus is prophet and we dont accept to say ino nsalab

there is millions of thinkings in the world and we have to accept that million or we will be mota3asebeen.
w thoso who are protesting.....law ma fee msale under baton ma t7arako...law ma they agreed that talking of the sheikh is right ma t7arako ;)

in all these cases , he let out the good people , and flooded the bad ones , he did not " kill em all "

Tawa 04-30-2010 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moqawem (Post 213884)
لا خيي ما عندي مشكلة معهم صدقني ،
مشكلتي بانتقائيتهم ، وبسخافتهم،
المشكلة وين ،
المشكلة انهم (معظمهم ت ما اشمل) يتخذون الدين والدينيين والله اعداء ، وبيعمدوا ت يحوروا اي شي بيصدر عن لسان اي رجل دين ، اي هفوة ، اي غلطة ، ليحملوها ل الله وللدين ، وهيي اذا كانت غلطة بيتحملها اللي اخطأها فحسب
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Well you should really start watching your language when you talk about Atheists. Just because a group of people decided to go naked in the streets it doesn't mean that Atheists are stupid and "mas5arjiyeh"

In addition, I don't see anything in this pointing to Atheists.

And you don't see me mocking you (A Muslim dude) because of what el-Qaida is doing [notice that if I want to think towards Muslims the way you do towards Atheists, I should be mocking your shit all over your face], or you don't see me mocking Muslims because religious girls have to hide their heads and hair.

Although, not to mention that Atheists have the right to mock you back the way you're doing to them, you don't see any Atheist in here mocking your holly religion.

So you ought to watch out from now on, because the Mas5arjiyeh might strike back.

SysTaMatIcS 04-30-2010 06:39 PM

http://www.icanhasmotivation.com/wp-...09/ichmgod.jpg

Genius704 04-30-2010 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tawa (Post 213921)

Well you should really start watching your language when you talk about Atheists. Just because a group of people decided to go naked in the streets it doesn't mean that Atheists are stupid and "mas5arjiyeh"

In addition, I don't see anything in this pointing to Atheists.

And you don't see me mocking you (A Muslim dude) because of what el-Qaida is doing [notice that if I want to think towards Muslims the way you do towards Atheists, I should be mocking your shit all over your face], or you don't see me mocking Muslims because religious girls have to hide their heads and hair.

Although, not to mention that Atheists have the right to mock you back the way you're doing to them, you don't see any Atheist in here mocking your holly religion.

So you ought to watch out from now on, because the Mas5arjiyeh might strike back.


He doesn't have to watch anything, he has the right to say whatever the hell he wants to say, just like you or any other person in this world. بوحي هل المناسبة بقدملكن داين كوك.. I bet you can't tell him to watch his mouth when he is mocking atheists. Or you can, but guess what, he doesn't give a SHIT. Neither do anyone else in the world. You or others can mock Islam or Christianity as you wish, trust me, real muslims and christians won't care, because they know that there is who will protect his reputation, and he is not waiting for us to defend it.

ثانكس

mr_j 04-30-2010 08:07 PM

he is not mocking atheists in this bid, he is mocking one jerk that sneezed in his face and made fun of his beliefs. by the way, I hate that bid, it is a simple story, and he drags it for 8 bloody min
edit:at least I think it is this joke... ):

abousoun 04-30-2010 08:36 PM

To show their full support with the women

Some Men decided to participate as well

here is some footage

Exclusive Vcoderz :P

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/5206/manboobsa.jpg
Damn ... didn't know I had to walk this much :-(


http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3...eastssaggy.jpg
Proud and Saggy ... Nothing te be ashamed of !!!


http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4770/81731493.jpg
Bring it on babyyyyyy !!!!!


http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/7...nwithboobs.jpg
I was told there will be some food :-S


Some celebreties decided to join as well


http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/706...302468x436.jpg
Ahhhhhh ... that's why no food
btw nice tan Jackyyy


*************
Oh yeah

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8843/braman.jpg
Kicked out for not respecting the rules

Thank You ...

Tawa 05-01-2010 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genius704 (Post 213927)
He doesn't have to watch anything, he has the right to say whatever the hell he wants to say, just like you or any other person in this world. بوحي هل المناسبة بقدملكن داين كوك.. I bet you can't tell him to watch his mouth when he is mocking atheists. Or you can, but guess what, he doesn't give a SHIT. Neither do anyone else in the world. You or others can mock Islam or Christianity as you wish, trust me, real muslims and christians won't care, because they know that there is who will protect his reputation, and he is not waiting for us to defend it.

ثانكس


There's a very huge difference between a Comedian mocking Atheists, and a person in a forum mocking his fellow members.

I'm surprised you compared between those 2 situations.


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