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KeXasthur 03-10-2006 11:32 PM

Iran's Nuclear Program
 
Are u with it...
What do u think should happen concerning this program..
Talk about anything related to this issue !

RedRoses 03-11-2006 03:58 AM

Peaceful Program
 
Since you have not specified the nature of this program, I assumed it is for peaceful use as they always insist.
Well, whether I like or dislike Iran, it is quite obvious that having two competing poles in the region is much better than unilateral dominance of one. A peaceful nuclear program will strengthen Iran's economy, and economy nowadays, is the key issue in sovergnity and strength. With a new balance established, the US and its allies will have to resist their lust for blood and stop instigating wars every now and then.

KeXasthur 03-11-2006 08:17 AM

Peaceful, Ofcourse....

xcoder 03-11-2006 08:32 AM

if it's peaceful program of course yes. everyone has the right to own this technology and iran is not an exeption. but i am totally against nuclear weapons.

Patriotic 03-13-2006 09:57 AM

Well, after that Ahmadi Najat become the president of Iran, i think that it was a big mistake, he is not developping the nuclear stuff, especially when we see that the Iranian people is suffering and hungry, while the money are paid on weapons instead of food and nutritions.

KeXasthur 03-13-2006 03:31 PM

They have the total right..its peacfeful..other countries have it...what's wrong..and patriotic...I dont think they are suffering...

The weapons will wake USA up...! :lol:

RedRoses 03-14-2006 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patriotic
Well, after that Ahmadi Najat become the president of Iran, i think that it was a big mistake, he is not developping the nuclear stuff, especially when we see that the Iranian people is suffering and hungry, while the money are paid on weapons instead of food and nutritions.

You are totally wrong, Irans Nuclear Program is solely devoted to peaceful uses. Actually, a peaceful program is much threatening and hurting to USA and its middle eastern ally Israel than nuclear bombs.
If Iran finishes this program, they would have a boosting economy. Nuclear energy is much more cheaper on the long run than any other kind of energy. This will lead to low cost production, and hence, the iranian products will profit more. Imagine what would happen if all Iranian industries cuts half of the cost!! It is as if they are selling twice their products. In addition to that, they will not rely on fuel and will be able to export it more.
USA does not care whether Iran owns nuclear weapons or not, actually what threatens USA and Israel, is the uprisal of a new economic giant (after China). This would definitely hurt USA a lot in its seek towards globaliization.

Patriotic 03-14-2006 07:40 PM

Does anyone tell you that i am with the nuclear program in the US? Or am I so attached to Israel?

But the fact that i am talking about the risks that has been formed since the election of Najad.

RedRoses 03-14-2006 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patriotic
Does anyone tell you that i am with the nuclear program in the US? Or am I so attached to Israel?

But the fact that i am talking about the risks that has been formed since the election of Najad.

God Forbidds, I never meant to insinuate that. And I strongly appologize publicly if this is what you got from my reply
You said that Nuclear program is wrong because the Iranian are starving and they need not waste their money on nuclear weapons.

I wanted to clarify that, unlike what USA and Israel claim, Iran is of no need of nuclear weapons! A peaceful program is much helpful to Iran at this stage. US and Israel know quite well that a peaceful program would strengthen the Iranian economy at hence, Iran will be completely independent....because as we know, independance nowadays is basically economical. An independent state is the one which does not need others, a strong state is the one which others need it.
This is regarding your use to the word "weapons". As for the other phrase I think was wrong "suffering and hungry", AGAIn, for the same reasons I mentioned, this program is probably their first step in solving their problems

For these reasons, US is trying to spread fears all over the middle east, claiming that this program is not peaceful.

Iran's nuclear program is probably their greatest acheivements, wish we had some!!

Patriotic 03-15-2006 09:47 AM

I don't think that this is an economical issue, since the president is so extremist, i'm affraid that he will lead his country to face big problems with the world community.
Look at the destiny of Saddam Houssein, Bachar Al Assad ... they tried to face the world, but they could not.
He have to learn from them.

RedRoses 03-15-2006 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patriotic
I don't think that this is an economical issue, since the president is so extremist, i'm affraid that he will lead his country to face big problems with the world community.
Look at the destiny of Saddam Houssein, Bachar Al Assad ... they tried to face the world, but they could not.
He have to learn from them.

By the way, this issue have been going on for the fourth year! Iranians started developing their nuclear resources at the time of Khatami, who is described to be as neutral. It is not due to the election of Ahmadi Najad. Instead, you can say that the Iranians elected Ahamadi Najad as a reaction to the increasing pressures on their country.
Anyway, It is definetly safe to go on just as the world community (USA) commands. But is it correct? Should we waive our rights to please others? Should we compromise in our soverignty? I know the USA does not, why shouldn't we too?

WiseCookie 03-16-2006 01:09 AM

Why do india and pakistan posses weapons when Iran can't ? Just becuase they're threatning the untouchable Israel ? Besides they're not even using it for weapons, and even if they are, maybe then we'll have some axis of power in the region without israel soleley possesing the nukes.

General 03-16-2006 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiseCookie
Why do india and pakistan posses weapons when Iran can't ? Just becuase they're threatning the untouchable Israel ? Besides they're not even using it for weapons, and even if they are, maybe then we'll have some axis of power in the region without israel soleley possesing the nukes.


Why USA, Israel and these countries have the right and Iran doesn't?...

patriotic_girl 03-16-2006 10:33 AM

I voteds against...
Iran, india , pakistan, israel, US, france, etc..
nobody should be allowed to develop nuclear weapons

Patriotic 03-16-2006 11:50 AM

Of course no one should be allowed to have its own nuclear program, what if they will go to a war, every side will use his program, and all the world will be a big example to Heroshima.

RedRoses 03-16-2006 06:31 PM

Iran is NOT developing its nuclear weapons!! (seems everybody is convinced with the American propaganda)......anyway
If I accept this proposition then I think it would serve stability rather than instigates war. Keep in mind that a Nuclear nation (the one that has nuclear weapons) would never STRIKE another nuclear nation!

Patriotic 03-16-2006 09:51 PM

We are in the year 2006, i don't think that we have to go to a new war...


Give peace its chance.

RedRoses 03-17-2006 12:46 PM

Balance means Stability
 
I totally agree with you PATRIOTIC

Look at the Paksitani-Indian example, things turned out fine when both countries were able to balance their powers.
When India had its nuclear weapons and Pakistan did not, India was not interested in peace, rather it wanted to implement its conditions. When Pakistan succeeded to reestablish nuclear power, they were back on the track..

I am not saying that every one should seek nuclear power, but I am saying that balance is much more helpful than one-sided power.


Balance means stability

hammerguy 03-17-2006 05:41 PM

for god's sake, iran is far ten years of producing a nuc, and the americans
knows it. All this attack on iran is because they don't want them to have any
advanced technologie, even the peaceful one. they want israel to be the only country in the region who owns it. as for najjad's says, it meaningless, it's just psychological war on israel.

WiseCookie 03-19-2006 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rami FPM
Quote:

Originally Posted by WiseCookie
Why do india and pakistan posses weapons when Iran can't ? Just becuase they're threatning the untouchable Israel ? Besides they're not even using it for weapons, and even if they are, maybe then we'll have some axis of power in the region without israel soleley possesing the nukes.


Why USA, Israel and these countries have the right and Iran doesn't?...

Because they're not america's allies ;)

Proud2blebanani 04-19-2006 05:40 AM

Re: Iran's Nuclear Program
 
First of all iran is ON on the verge of developing nuclear weapons BUT it will take them years. It doesnt even have enough energey to produce a small nuclear warhead. PLUS , America doesnt even have to deal with them right now, israel can finish the job easily. The U.N is no use, it is probably against a war from both sides, but on the inside it supports an attack. 100% the other middle eastern countries do not support iran's desires. The geographical construction of Iran is not in it's favour because they are cornerned on all sides by american, european, israeli troops. I honestly dont believe that the US is going to deploy troops, maybe it will launch a few rockets or rain some bombs on the nuclear facilities, from planes. Let's not forget what israel did to saddam when he unleashed his scud missiles, he was completley crippled. IRAN has already proven its incompetence and irresponsibility towards the international world. NEJAD proffessed to the world that he wants to destroy israel off the map, by giving him weapons we will fullfill his desire. AND "peace?" how can nuclear weapons be used for peace i dont get that, if he wants electricity there is many ways to produce this. A man (nejad) who 1)denies the holocaust 2)wants to wipe an enitre group of people of the map, needs to be definetley stopped from governing a nation. Iran will never in 1 trillion years attack israel. they will never dare, they already saw what happened to their arab neighbors during the past wars. Israel is not going to attack if you notice israel plays a defensive war, and iran doesnt have the guts TO LAY ONE finger on israeli soil. they have no chance against the chosen people of god

Gino 04-19-2006 08:14 AM

Re: Iran's Nuclear Program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Patriotic
I don't think that this is an economical issue, since the president is so extremist, i'm affraid that he will lead his country to face big problems with the world community.
Look at the destiny of Saddam Houssein, Bachar Al Assad ... they tried to face the world, but they could not.
He have to learn from them.

Bashar and Saddam did not have nuclear warheads :P Saddam never really posed a REAL threat to the US, everyone knew there were no such things as WMDs in Iraq... Now, the US canot jeopardize Israel's security so easily, for Iranian missiles will be able to hit Israel, and beyond... So, it's kinda at a fork in the road... The US is at the doorstep of Iran, and yet, too close to Israel for a comfortable assault on Iran without the danger of heavy damage and ruin to Israel as well as Iran.

hammerguy 04-20-2006 11:41 AM

Re: Iran's Nuclear Program
 
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major 04-20-2006 01:00 PM

Re: Iran's Nuclear Program
 
I AM TOTALY WITH

well iran doesnt have the capability to developpe nuclear weapons
they can just used nuclear ta ya3emlo ta2a w ymacho l ma3amil
they dont have the machine ta ykhasbou mnih to have nuclear bomb

so i dont see what is the pro if any country can use nuclear to creat energy such electricity etcccc

and who gave nuclear to iran ? its russia and china

so if they dont want them to make bomb they will jut not give them the machine to do it

hammerguy 05-01-2006 01:06 PM

Re: Iran's Nuclear Program
 
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KeXasthur 11-15-2006 04:08 PM

Re: Iran's Nuclear Program
 
ايران على مشارف الدولة النووية
لمصدر المرده 15 / 11 / 2006
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