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Jean 11-09-2006 08:21 AM

Death Sentence!
 
in lebanon , and in too many other countries, tribunals are judging some prisonners a death sentence.
so are you with or against this law ? is it a crime against humanity or a right ? what is its consequences ? and do it solves the problem ?

Kingroudy 11-09-2006 08:29 AM

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first, i can't be with it, but i cant say that no one deserves it, remember the russain candid cam video posted in this forum earlier, do you think that this insane does not deserves the death penalty?? some people deserves to die, but, the death penalty does not solve the problem, this is the role of the society. and this penalty has no consequences rather than it teaches a lesson and it is 3ibra la man ya3taber.
regards

sam88 11-09-2006 08:57 AM

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well when it come to prison i agree but when it come to death sentence of course i'm against it because the man will be punished when he will be behind the cell but killing him i don't understand what is it for the judge to give a order like that one . imagine that his son is going to be a suspect will he give him the order of death i don't think so

7anzala 11-09-2006 09:32 AM

Re: Death Sentence!
 
"El 3ayn bel 3ayn, wal sen bel sen , wal katel yoktal"
" wa ma jaza2 elkha2en ila el katl"

I am with and agianst, I am with death sentence but not with how it is applied. " Badero el mo3tadi bezat el i3teda2 wala tomasilo" so if someone has killed other by shooting him ok just shoot him, he cut his head, ok cut his head etc....... the death sentence kills the serial killer the same way the one who killed on or two or the same as trader. ofcourse all are killers and the have level of crime

thats all

SpongeBob 11-09-2006 10:20 AM

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Noone has the right to take a man's live except our Lord,I'm absolutely against the death sentence even if he killed and tortured alot of people,He will be judged and punished by God

hasan_00 11-09-2006 12:36 PM

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Lets not talk religion, cuz religion is with it, and God said In his holy book the punishments of each sin on earth and after death, so he ordered us to apply his rules. But lets talk here now, if someone knows that death will be his destiny if he does this or that, he will think 1000 times before doing it, thats one of the reasons y death penalty is good to be applied. It is like in saudi arabia, if someone steels they would cut his first hand, not for the first time ofcourse but after one or two warnings or jail time.

El-Meghwar 11-09-2006 12:50 PM

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I am with 100 %
There is a lot of issues when the killer is not sentenced by death he may quit the jail after some years b chi 2enoun 3afou masalan.
for exemple the one who killed bachir gemayel was jailed for about 8 years then he ran away ,so ma t3e2ab 3a jarimto.
a second exemple,francois halal,the one who tried to assassinate General Aoun and killed a soldier ken lezem ye3dmou immediatly,but also he ran away in 13 october 1990 wma t3e2ab.
a third example: ja3ja3 who killed a lot of innocent peoples he was sentenced by death bass l 7ekm dallo yet2ajjal la 7atta 3efyo 3anno .
"The killer must be killed"

s1m0n 11-09-2006 02:40 PM

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No i doubt that god is with the death sentence he give life but he doesn take life, god gave us life us and we control it the way we want too, so he'll when the time will come not some man,
no im against it cuz some1 could be stupid enough to commit somthin by beein crazy or some psychological issue,
prison for life would be a worst punishment cuz it will last till he's dead and he might even learn and be a better guy, so there would be a chance i could meet him in heaven :P

Tawa 11-09-2006 04:10 PM

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against...

mesh ne7na li men7asib wmne2tool... 2aktar shy mne7booss m2abbad... bass 2ana dod l'2e3deim... Allah bi7asib wbyei5ood :) mesh ne7na...

Malak 11-09-2006 04:51 PM

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with: to these who diserve it
against: to others

Tawa 11-09-2006 04:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Malak
with: to these who diserve it
against: to others

man, 2enta bi moujarrad ma 2elet 2ennak with... ye3neh 2enta ma3 l'2e3dein... 2ana sha5siyan dod, law la min ma keinit... 7ayalla 2ensein... mesh leizim ysir fi 2e3deim la 7ada:D mesh ne7na li men7asib :D Allah :D

SpongeBob 11-09-2006 05:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hasan_00
Lets not talk religion, cuz religion is with it, and God said In his holy book the punishments of each sin on earth and after death, so he ordered us to apply his rules. But lets talk here now, if someone knows that death will be his destiny if he does this or that, he will think 1000 times before doing it, thats one of the reasons y death penalty is good to be applied. It is like in saudi arabia, if someone steels they would cut his first hand, not for the first time ofcourse but after one or two warnings or jail time.

That's your holy book not ours,We have something called a confession,If the sinner confessed his sins in the presence of a priest he MIGHT be forgiven(touba liman talaba l ghoufran),I repeat a person does not have the right to kill another person,That's a sin by itself.Isn't the executioner sinning as well?

xcoder 11-09-2006 05:22 PM

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I am against it,
First because the criminal won't pay for what he did once he dies khalass.
but keeping him in a cell all his life he will regret it big time and think of what he did and people will learn from that.
but note that some people where killed and it was proved later that they were innocent.
besides i think that killing should not be a human behavior even if legal. most of europe countries have cancelled the death penalty.
killing the criminal will be only killing another person and won't be any better of the murder itself.

Kingroudy 11-09-2006 06:06 PM

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@spongebob: the executioner has nothing to do with sin or dunno why,,,
he is just following the orders of the judge, who is applying the law, so if executing a killer is a sin, why would the executioner do this job.!?!?!?!
sa7i7 ennou bikoun shaklou byekoul 3alam, bas ma 5assou, haydeh shagheltou
w hek matloub mennou.

Justin 11-09-2006 06:29 PM

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so u mean that the " X-Ecutioner" is taking order TO END LIVES from judges...eno el judges saro LORDS halla2 :S...
an "X-Ecutioner" has no heart, he doesn't care if some1 died or anythin':)...so that makes him worst than the judges...

KeXasthur 11-10-2006 10:41 PM

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Im against Death Penalty !
The way to make a person pay the price is put him in jail, even if it was forever, .....bass if he prefered to be sentenced to death .... like by shooting him, or something, I think we should do as he says ....

For example, saddam wants to be shoot and killed, I think they should shoot and kill him, but they wont do that, they will apply "alkhank 7atta el mawt" ..and that is not right in my opinion ....

Kingroudy 11-10-2006 10:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin
so u mean that the " X-Ecutioner" is taking order TO END LIVES from judges...eno el judges saro LORDS halla2 :S...
an "X-Ecutioner" has no heart, he doesn't care if some1 died or anythin':)...so that makes him worst than the judges...

i said that the judges are applying the law, and second what is the sin of the X-ecutioner??? can u explain? akid ana iza sheftou b5af mennou, bas haydeh shagheltou tab ma fi 3ayle bra2ebtou lal zalmeh!!

No One 11-10-2006 11:08 PM

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akid im against for the same reason that i said bel abortion thread eno no1 has the right 2 stop/end someone's life
eno bi aya 7a2? bi aya solta? chou soltit l ensen 3al ared??
w kamen im against "clonage" la eno no1 has the right to imitate God..eno la 2 give life to som1 wala 2 end it!!! its God job... w our destiny houwe byet7akam fi mech na7na
so kel chi dod 7ekmit or iradit alla im against it
:)

Justin 11-10-2006 11:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingroudy
i said that the judges are applying the law, and second what is the sin of the X-ecutioner??? can u explain? akid ana iza sheftou b5af mennou, bas haydeh shagheltou tab ma fi 3ayle bra2ebtou lal zalmeh!!

bein' an "X-ecutioner" isn't a job, Killing for living ain't a job, an x-ecutioner is some1 who has no heart, no feelings, & no mercy... yalli bye2tol men bala ma tefro2 ma3o el da7iye...ma bi koun enssen tabi3e :crazy:
X - Ę Ĉ ú Ŧ Ĭ ǿ מ Ĕ ŕ
http://www.crimelibrary.com/graphics...r-with-axe.jpg

sarah32 11-11-2006 02:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin
bein' an "X-ecutioner" isn't a job, Killing for living ain't a job, an x-ecutioner is some1 who has no heart, no feelings, & no mercy... yalli bye2tol men bala ma tefro2 ma3o el da7iye...ma bi koun enssen tabi3e :crazy:
X - Ę Ĉ ú Ŧ Ĭ ǿ מ Ĕ ŕ
http://www.crimelibrary.com/graphics...r-with-axe.jpg

lol ur pic reminded me of KKK O_o :D

i'm against it .. no 1 has the right 2 take some1 else's life .. even if he was the biggest serial killer on earth we cant kill him .. and lifetime prison isnt the solution ... coz the pers. will regret what he did but it wont be a lesson .. he should get therapy and once the therapist feels that he's back to normal he should get a 2nd chance(bi dal ta7et l moure2abeh mech byefeltou y2atil) .. if he was about to fall for another crime he should get lifetime prison but without being tortured ...

Justin 04-12-2007 09:44 PM

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Well Meghwar's got a point, but HUMAN DOESN'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOSE WHO'S GONNA DIE, how, when & why!!
Punishment is in the hands of God...
:)

pouta 04-12-2007 11:34 PM

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totally against it...people cant judge...only our lord !!!

noussa 04-13-2007 12:19 AM

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100%against
it's not our duty to decide who's gonna live how long! enno hala2 akid iza wa7ad ktir "mfaza3" bi 7ayeto mech lezem n5alli on the streets bas mech lezem ne2tello (fi sejen mou2abad u know!!)

Maymouma 04-13-2007 12:31 PM

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1.Salut
2. Ce sujet restera controverser et on n'aboutira pas à une ou des solutions malheureusement:(
3. Moi je suis totalement contre la peine de mort.
4.Pourquoi?
5.pour plusieurs raisons les voila:
- Depuis des années et jusqu'aux nos jours,on entend dire:"la peine de mort! elle est nécessaire, elle est exemplaire..... si on la supprime, les crimes vont se multiplier!!!!!!!!
Malheureusement, jamais le progrès social, jamais le progrès de l'éducation et de la justice ne dispensera les sociétés humaines de tuer et de répondre à la violence individuelle par le meurtre social.

Peut etre vous appuiez l'application de la peine capital en croyant que c'est efficace comme punition et par certitude que la peine capital ne fera pas un mal pour les autres(car elle est appliquée seulement sur le criminel)
ou bien, vous croyez que si "un" est mort par peine de mort, les autres ne vont pas tuer ou violer ou machin.... pour éviter l'éxecution à mort, c.a.d cette application deviendra exemplaire!!!

Et ceux qui refusent totalement l'idée(y inclus moi) considèrent que c'est une atroce et une émotion vraiment pénible. Ajoutons que c'est honteux d'etre au 21eme siècle et nous avons encore des républiques et des régimes qui punissent et tuent les gens par cette façon. Meme les pays qui réclament et prétendent la démocratie et le respect des droits de l'homme l'appliquent qd meme:(

Cette "scene" fait du criminel le point de rencontre et le point géometrique du malheur humain.
Je ne sais pas comment dire mais c'est un spectale intolérable, c'est une forme de barbarie. La peine de mort est un supplice et je ne crois pas qu'il faut remplacer un supplice par un autre.

Ne croyez pas que je défends les criminels mais je veux simplement dire que c'est INHUMAIN et ILLOGIQUE.

Des statistiques faites depuis qq annees ont montré que l'Homme préfère mourir "d'un seul coup" et ne pas passé sa vie à souffrir.Donc au lieu de tuer cet Homme il faut l'emprisonner pour toute sa vie(comme ca vous vous venger en lui privant de sa liberté, en protegeant la societe de lui,etc..... )et je suis sure et certaine qu'il regrettera ce qu'il a deja fait.

Enfin comme Victor Hugo le dit:" il y aura une certitude que parmi ces tetes qui tomberont, il y aura de tetes d'innocents".

Merci,

Sniper 04-13-2007 12:37 PM

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I am more than 100% against the Death Sentence, whether it was in Lebanon or any other country, because Humans are not to decide how other humans die, and humans dont have the right to kill any other human no matter what the convicted person did...GOD, who created us, only has the right to take our lives away...We may put the convicted in jail, put him under house arrest, etc...etc...Butt we CANNOT KILL HIM!

Medusa 04-13-2007 12:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tawa
against...

mesh ne7na li men7asib wmne2tool... 2aktar shy mne7booss m2abbad... bass 2ana dod l'2e3deim... Allah bi7asib wbyei5ood :) mesh ne7na...



AGAINST >>>> bwef2ak Tawa( b2wef2aaaaaaaak, mni7 heik :p) miye bel miye cz na7na alla li 3atena l 7ayet houwe li bye5eda w na7na ma fina netsarraf bi 7ayet l cha5es add ma ken moujrem so aktar chi bi 3azzbou w bi 2adou bass ma bi 7e2ellon ye2etlou O_o

Sheriff Ice 04-13-2007 12:49 PM

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im with it 100% specially in Lebanon and in our arabic enviroment.

SysTaMatIcS 04-13-2007 02:57 PM

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am with it , but should be applied in extreme conditions , like massive kills by a murderer or caugh handed...!

pink 04-13-2007 03:26 PM

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sure not:S..enno ok that person may have done so0o many wrong stuff nd killed so many ppl...but i c it realu nt human act 2 kill him..enno meen ento 2 kill him, 7atta law hez bad..hez got here by God nd God shud take him, himself nd God will punish him, not humanbeings..

noussa 04-13-2007 08:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icemaker
im with it 100% specially in Lebanon and in our arabic enviroment.

chou hayda icemakerze3aletne menak:( ! chou 5as el enviroment taba3na! it's something totally wrong and against all morals! it's not our job to decide how long people have to live. chou sayerlak:crazy: !! (hehe:p )

noussa 04-13-2007 08:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icemaker
im with it 100% specially in Lebanon and in our arabic enviroment.

chou hayda icemaker ze3aletne:( !chou 5as ! it's something against all morals! i mean who gave us the power to decide if some people have the right to live or not?!, as far as i know that was God's job:p ! i'm very disapointed ma kenet mfakretak heik!! hehe:p


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