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SysTaMatIcS 03-21-2007 05:18 PM

Uniting Lebanon with Syria ?!!!!
 
Are you with uniting Syria with Lebanon?what do u think are the benefits??

El-Meghwar 03-21-2007 05:57 PM

Re: one syria
 
Of course not.
Lebanon is an independant Nation,10452 KM2 .
syria is totally a different country .

لبنان وطن موحّد نهائي لجميع أبنائه

sha3be 03-21-2007 06:15 PM

Re: one syria
 
i dont think that we can live with each other

J()e 03-21-2007 06:48 PM

Re: one syria
 
r u kindn me !! hell no ,... what did the leb army(General Aoun), lf,katayeb,a7rar,goc...fought for!!

Sniper 03-21-2007 07:45 PM

Re: one syria
 
I am not with uniting syria and lebanon as 1 country (lebanon is an independant country and so is syria)

That doesnt mean i am not with making friendship between lebanon and syria because from that there will be alot of benefits on many levels for lebanon more than syria

xcoder 03-21-2007 08:09 PM

Re: one syria
 
Hell No!!
are you serious about this question.
Lebanon is a democractic country syria is not.
Lebanon has different culture
Lebanon is a country who has totally another system of life.
to make you see it my way try to think of this.
do you accept to be united with the united states?

The Queen 03-21-2007 08:19 PM

Re: one syria
 
Of course not ,
Lebanon is a free , dimocratic country & will stay like this .
(r u awake systamatics?)

SysTaMatIcS 03-21-2007 08:38 PM

Re: one syria
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The queen
Of course not ,
Lebanon is a free , dimocratic country & will stay like this .
(r u awake systamatics?)

Quote:

Originally Posted by cacharel
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
MA32OUL HAL SOU2AL:@ :@ :@ :@ :paddle:
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Quote:

Originally Posted by xcoder
Hell No!!
are you serious about this question.
Lebanon is a democractic country syria is not.
Lebanon has different culture
Lebanon is a country who has totally another system of life.
to make you see it my way try to think of this.
do you accept to be united with the united states?

:p relax men am against it :D its jst a question

Tawa 03-21-2007 08:43 PM

Re: one syria
 
LOL!!! Systamatics You Made My Day With This Poll!!! :D

I Think It's A Joke :D Cause, I Don't Think That You Can Find A "Lebanese" Person That Is With Uniting Lebanon And Syria :D

I'm Totaly Against It:Tawa:

We Don't Even Have The Same Cultures :Tawa:

El-Meghwar 03-21-2007 08:54 PM

Re: one syria
 
please everyone stop personal attacks,this forum is a democratic one,and everyone have the complete right to ask whatever he wants to as long as he/she is respecting the rules .
please everybody stick to the subject or else u'll be warned .
(political forum moderator)

J()e 03-21-2007 08:54 PM

Re: one syria
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tawa
I Think It's A Joke :D Cause, I Don't Think That You Can Find A "Lebanese" Person That Is With Uniting Lebanon And Syria :D

Man u r wrong here...go ask a ssnper and tell me what he told u !!:p:D

Tawa 03-21-2007 09:11 PM

Re: one syria
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lf rabieh
Man u r wrong here...go ask a ssnper and tell me what he told u !!:p:D

Well, Personally, And I Have The Right To Say My Opinion, Cause this forum is a democratic one, I Don't Consider A Person Who Wants To Unit Lebanon To Syria Is A Lebanese Person, How Do You Want Me To Consider Him A Lebanese Person If He Wants To Remove The Name Of His Country, And Give His Country To Another One? :Tawa:

That Was My Point lf rabieh ;) I Think That You Understood Me Now :leb:

lebanese_a 03-21-2007 09:18 PM

Re: one syria
 
Hell No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

flamenguita 03-21-2007 09:46 PM

Re: one syria
 
100% Not and Never and No in all the languages of the world. Lebanon is and we are fighting probably the whole world to make him remaining free, independant and as Sheikh Bachir said : " 10452 km2". And General Aoun said : " Leave Lebanon in Lebanon, and Syria IN SYRIA". And i Hope that the rest of the world will realize that we want Lebanon for all Lebanese and free of any foreign interferences from whatever country may she comes.

Long Live Lebanon :leb:

lara 03-22-2007 12:33 AM

Re: Uniting Lebanon with Syria ?!!!!
 
and why we should uniting syria with lebanon :sarah:

akeed no , coz lebanon is for lebanese not for syrians or israelis or americans or french ......etc:leb:

pouta 03-22-2007 12:36 AM

Re: Uniting Lebanon with Syria ?!!!!
 
this question is outrageous :pofcourse not...however lf rabieh has a point an ssnper would answer yes:p

KeXasthur 03-22-2007 09:52 AM

Re: Uniting Lebanon with Syria ?!!!!
 
I think the problem is in the question itself and not just the idea behind it . Why is this question asked ? Why are we lebanese the only ones asked this question ? Unless, syria is also asked to unite with Jordon or Turkey or whatever and the "Uniting with another country" question becomes common to all countries, This question is not for argument ...

Lebanon is unique but it should not be as such by being the only country always being told " would you unite with....." ... Let's just get rid of it ...PERIOD

elly 03-22-2007 10:38 AM

Re: Uniting Lebanon with Syria ?!!!!
 
what u'll do if an arab union is proposing to u i mean on all the levels and 4 all the arabic contries : from Mauritania to Bahrain?? would u refuse it or accept???

lara 03-22-2007 12:57 PM

Re: Uniting Lebanon with Syria ?!!!!
 
there is some1 answered yes on the poll , i would like if he explain for us his opinion :D

thanks :leb:

SysTaMatIcS 03-22-2007 03:15 PM

Re: Uniting Lebanon with Syria ?!!!!
 
ok i wonna clear some points here.....
everyone thinks that since i asked this question tht means that iam with option "yes"..
and all of u should know that am against it.....

anyway theres a 1 yes answer ,and 2 option 3, and 1 option 5 answer.....hope who voted clears his points.
ssnp:they believe in uniting syria with lebano and jordan and palastine +cyprus!
they believe that this is the real syria the big syria...

ofcourse these days thats not their project and they adopted a total commitment for the lebanese cause as we are seeing...

hasan_00 03-22-2007 03:23 PM

Re: Uniting Lebanon with Syria ?!!!!
 
NO FREAKIN WAY!!! You should have put only one answer which is Hell NO..Imagine im telling my friend "shlonak akhi!!" OMG!!!, ana sometimes i go to syria for ziyara i cant wait to go back to lebanon!!!
But i would like lebanon to stay friends with syria, and for lf-rabieh syrian occupation was the result of the war btw lebanese people, the only people who should be blamed are us...we made them come in from our stupidity and inshallah this time, which is unlikely, we become less stupid..just pray cuz it needs a miracle...lil2asaf :(

flamenguita 03-22-2007 03:34 PM

Re: Uniting Lebanon with Syria ?!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by systamatics
ssnp:they believe in uniting syria with lebano and jordan and palastine +cyprus!
they believe that this is the real syria the big syria...

ofcourse these days thats not their project and they adopted a total commitment for the lebanese cause as we are seeing...

The SSNP always had the concept of " Souriya Koubra" and they still have it as ideology ( One United arabic nation facing the dreadful threat of the Jewish Clan). But the Middle East political and economical sightings and events made them realize that this is an impossible dream to pursue. ( U can discuss the SSNP values and principles in the thread dedicated to it by fida2 el kawmi.)

Back to our subject, the lebanese people are against not only unifing Lebanon with Syria as system or country, they are against unifying Lebanon with any other besided country.

Lebanon has a unique identity, it can coop with others but not morphe or merge.

hasan_00 03-22-2007 03:46 PM

Re: Uniting Lebanon with Syria ?!!!!
 
who ***** is SSNP,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Please respect the courtesy in ur posts.
Pol. Mod.

Jean 03-22-2007 03:53 PM

Re: Uniting Lebanon with Syria ?!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hasan_00
who ***** is SSNP,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

it's the syrian social national party
الحزب السوري القومي الإجتماعي

Crystal Soul 03-22-2007 06:26 PM

Re: Uniting Lebanon with Syria ?!!!!
 
4 sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee noooooooooooooooo we will not accept this anymore the war of 1990 for what it was done we will not accept syria in lebanon again.loooooooool i am thinking and imaging now that we and syrians are one people lol

Josee 03-22-2007 08:39 PM

Re: Uniting Lebanon with Syria ?!!!!
 
Akid NOOOOOOOOOOOO
Lebanon should have his own liberty w no unity with others...

SysTaMatIcS 03-23-2007 08:12 PM

Re: Uniting Lebanon with Syria ?!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flamenguita
The SSNP always had the concept of " Souriya Koubra" and they still have it as ideology ( One United arabic nation facing the dreadful threat of the Jewish Clan). But the Middle East political and economical sightings and events made them realize that this is an impossible dream to pursue. ( U can discuss the SSNP values and principles in the thread dedicated to it by fida2 el kawmi.)

Back to our subject, the lebanese people are against not only unifing Lebanon with Syria as system or country, they are against unifying Lebanon with any other besided country.

Lebanon has a unique identity, it can coop with others but not morphe or merge.

but what confuses me is that they consider cyrpus a part of this big syria!
whys that!

Malak 03-24-2007 12:22 AM

Re: Uniting Lebanon with Syria ?!!!!
 
they kidnapped lebanon for 20 years ... i dont think that they can now ... and this is their unrealistic dream (everyone who want to join the countries) i am 10000000% against that and i ll pay myself in order to defense my country if they decided to do it!!!
BTW syria is not an arabic country ... and iraq or " bilad ma bayna l nahrayn " these all are named " bilad al souriyan " ... lebanon , syria , iraq are countries for the syriak pple ... the bible language..

true lebanese 03-24-2007 07:01 AM

Re: Uniting Lebanon with Syria ?!!!!
 
not only do i say no but hellll noooo!
lebanon is lebanon that's final.

fmd03 03-31-2007 10:13 AM

Re: Uniting Lebanon with Syria ?!!!!
 
Quote:

but what confuses me is that they consider cyrpus a part of this big syria!
whys that!



bc cyprus was part of our area and then split up over the years and shifted to be an island. Its location was with "liwa2 el iskandaron" in north syria. If u look at the map, ull c a big bay there, there was cyprus in old ages.

as for the poll, i'm agaisnt it, bc it will make the shee3a a minority hahahahahaha

KeXasthur 03-31-2007 10:20 AM

Re: Uniting Lebanon with Syria ?!!!!
 
Quote:

as for the poll, i'm agaisnt it, bc it will make the shee3a a minority hahahahahaha

I know it could be that your Honest ( which is something I like in people), but is this the true reason ?

Regards !

fmd03 03-31-2007 12:11 PM

Re: Uniting Lebanon with Syria ?!!!!
 
Quote:

I know it could be that your Honest ( which is something I like in people), but is this the true reason ?
1st of all thx, but I think in this time, this is the main criteria that everybody makes his decisions upon. why do u think the sunna have no problem & are working on giving the palestinians the lebanese citizenship? why are the shee3a an allies of Iran? or even the syrian regime, why are the sunna allies of KSA? why are the christians & shee3a agaisnt giving the citizenship to palestinians? why do some christians love ja3ja3 although they know he's a criminal? why do sunna love el harriri although they know he rubbed the country and destroying it these days? and the questions never end

I am sorry to say that sectarianism is the main factor which drives our decisions in this period of time. It's a bad thing, but it's true. At some point of time, i had no problem with uniting with syria if it gives us benefits. But now, noo, the hell no, if we are 35% of the poputation and we are treated like shit, how about when we become 5%. Even the christians have the same problem.

So, buttom line, i prefer keeping it this way

hammerguy 03-31-2007 03:09 PM

Re: Uniting Lebanon with Syria ?!!!!
 
this question is to be answered NO in the way it's asked.
If any yes is to be anticipated the title should be "unity between lebanon and syria" and there's a huge difference.
For me i can't deny that my biggest dream is unity between people
but it's not that simple, there r steps to follow in every unity.
Personnaly i dream of the following unities but i do not call for one until
the previous ones r accomplished :
- Simultanously the lebanese unity and the religious islamic one (no sunni
and shi'i anymore )
- the unity between jordan lebanon palestine and syria
- the arabic unity
- the world wide unity

Question : when is the second unity possible ?
Answer : when all the lebanese sides stop feeling being a minority in the
east especially the christians, and focus on the common cultures (same
language .....)
Plus there r conditions for it to be possible like a democratic
system like the laic one for example.

In the actual circumstances my answer is no and hell no,
it's definitaly an impossible thing to accomplish.

fmd03 03-31-2007 03:36 PM

Re: Uniting Lebanon with Syria ?!!!!
 
Quote:

Question : when is the second unity possible ?
Answer : when all the lebanese sides stop feeling being a minority in the east especially the christians, and focus on the common cultures (same language .....)



Do you think the problem is here, or the problem is in the majority who treats you like a minority or a 2nd or 3rd degree citizens?

hammerguy 03-31-2007 05:17 PM

Re: Uniting Lebanon with Syria ?!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fmd03

Do you think the problem is here, or the problem is in the majority who treats you like a minority or a 2nd or 3rd degree citizens?


u should note that it's the dictator regime that dominate majority who
does that rather than the majority itself, and the solution here is
democraty like i said.
Plus dreaming of something is far away of calling to accomplish it and
like i said the actual circumstances r not suitable.

fmd03 03-31-2007 05:31 PM

Re: Uniting Lebanon with Syria ?!!!!
 
you can't call for democracy when sectarianism is driving people. look at Iraq as an example, before applying democracy, people should be ready for democracy.


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