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SysTaMatIcS 03-28-2007 06:23 PM

suicide
 
- what reasons drive a person to suicide ?
- Is suicide a solution ? what kind of personality he has the one who tried or did suicide?
- Ever thought on commiting suicide ?
-if ur gonna commit suicide,which is the best way do u think??


personally i think that suicide is the cowards way out,and moving from hell to hell!! so wats the point of commiting suicide?? ITS THE SAME! instead live ur life and be happy as u can , commit urself to god (not totaly) but in the end u mite get into heaven , and live eternity in heaven , instead of livin life and eternity in HELL!!

striker220 03-28-2007 07:09 PM

Re: suicide
 
i think the one he suicide is a person who is Bored off life :p 2eno leash bado yenti7ir 2eza kean mabsout in his life :P lol but the best way 2 suicide is buy jumping out off the WindowO_o I find it the best way 2 suicide :D ............ but my openion about suicide is :crazy: :crazy:

I ♥ Life LOL :D

Jess 03-31-2007 05:21 PM

Re: suicide
 
- what reasons drive a person to suicide ?
- Is suicide a solution ? what kind of personality he has the one who tried or did suicide?
- Ever thought on commiting suicide ?
-if ur gonna commit suicide,which is the best way do u think??

1st The reasons for suicide are deep and long standing.
As a teen:
  • Balancing relationships with divorced or separated parents
  • Relationship breakup
  • Facing an environment that encourages drugs, alcohol, and sex
  • poverty or economic disadvantage
  • unemployment.
2nd suicide is is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
3rd nop i have never thought of commiting a suicide O_o

Josee 04-05-2007 11:35 PM

Re: suicide
 
- what reasons drive a person to suicide ?
maybe losing someone they love,or some personnal problems...
- Is suicide a solution ? what kind of personality he has the one who tried or did suicide?
well,sometimes i think it is the solution for all the problems..and sometimes i think that the person has just a weak personnality
- Ever thought on commiting suicide ?
umm,let me be honest,i've tried to commit suicide before bas laha2oune 3a ekher lahza:(
-if ur gonna commit suicide,which is the best way do u think??
cut my wrists with a razor

Sniper 04-06-2007 05:41 AM

Re: suicide
 
- What reasons drive a person to suicide ?
Personal problems, Problems with society, Family problems...The person that commits suicide just cant handle one second of this cruel world any - more...

- Is suicide a solution ?
Absolutely not...No matter how hard things get, one just has to pull himself together and try to comfort himself and jeust get by to reach another day

-What kind of personality he has the one who tried or did suicide?
Usually a very weak personality, one who cannot defend himself, he just surrenders to the cruelity of others...

- Ever thought on commiting suicide ?
At some times...But not a deep deep thought, just an idea that crossed my mind...But then i came back to my sanity and realized that it would be stupid...(Stupid is the lease i can describe it)

-If ur gonna commit suicide,which is the best way do u think??
Take a pill where you can die peacefully...

Josee 04-08-2007 08:12 PM

Re: suicide
 
Le suicide est le fait de se donner la mort à soi-même.
Il y a plusieurs manières de mettre sa vie en jeu.Il faut distinguer les tentatives de suicide qui sont souvent des appels au secours,les conduites suicidaires et les comportements à risque...
Dans tous les cas,c'est la manifestation d'une grande souffrance intérieure qui peut avoir des tas de raisons mêlées:fragilité et solitude,échec sentimental,scolaire ou professionnel,conflit avec sa famille,chomage et détresse sociale.A un moment donné,on ne sent plus capable de faire face,sans pour autant savoir appeler à l'aidede manière assez claire.
On ne peut jamais vraiment comprendre un suicide;c'est précisément ce qui est terrible pour ceux qui restent,et qui se sentent forcément coupables de n'avoir pas pu l'empêcher.Il peut bien sur y avoir un motife précis,un événement qui déclenche le drame:chagrin d'amour,difficultés familiales,perte d'un proche,sentiment d'échec qui fait que la vie parait soudain invivable.On ne sent plus le gout ni la force de continuer.L'espérance et les désirs sont morts,laissant derrière eux le sentiment que plus rien n'a de sens.
Feu de détresse:
Souvent,une personne qui se suicide ne recherche pas tant la mort que lafin de ses souffrances ou le moyen d'interpeller ses proches,de leur demander de l'aide ou même paradoxalement exister,parce qu'elle se sent trop seule,pas assez reconnue,transparente.Ce peut-être aussi parce qu'elle ne s'aime pas,qu'elle ne se reconnait aucune valeur,pas même le droit de vivre.
Démission de la vie:
Mais au fond,le suicide reste toujours un mystère,et celui qui s'en va emporte son secret avec lui. On voit des gens rencontrer les pires difficultés,vivre les pires souffrance et tenir le choc;et d'autres décider de s'arrêter en route,sans qu'on puisse savoir pourquoi.
Tragédie et culpabilité:

Quand cela arrive à une personne qu'on connait,c'est un coup de tonnerre qui met tout le monde KO.On n'y croit pas parce qu'on n'y avait jamis imaginé une chose pareille.On se met à sa place et on essaie de comprendre pourquoi il a fait ce geste.Rien à faire pourtant que pleurer...


Medusa 04-08-2007 09:55 PM

Re: suicide
 
ana ble2e anno l suicide chi ktir ghalat cz allah 3atena 7ayetna w houwe bass bi 7e2ello ye5eda menna w ba3dein heyde jarime bi 7a2 7alna iza mne2tol 7alna w hiye metel ka2anno 3am ne2tol cha5es tene cz 3am ne2tol jasadna ( got it :p) w li bye2tol 7alo bi koun jabein cz ya ma fi ywejeh 7ayeto wel machekl ya manno add l 7emel ya3ne d3if ... w chou ma t3addadet l asbeb the result is 1 w it's a big mistake bi 7a2 7alna O_o

god 04-08-2007 10:09 PM

Re: suicide
 
eh i agree with u joelle, im against suicide, bas u're talking from an outside perspective, you dont know how it feels to be in very very VERY deep sh*t in life, mech 3am be7ke 3an 7ale im a very happy person :P bas u hv no idea how a suicidal's life can be F'd up, sometimes its not his fault! Like this little girl i heard about on tv, nobody liked her at her school cz she had some MINOR deformation, and everyone kept bullying her, and she couldnt tell her parents because they were very strict with her (her father was an alcoholic) and the school administration didnt care, so one day some children started to tell her that she should kill her self, and being so young and them being her only influencing source, she actually got sooo desperate and shot herself with her father's gun, and she was just 12, dont generalise, suicide is a very vast term..Sometimes WE are the ones who should change, not them..
Life isnt always what the 'catechese' teacher says

Malak 04-08-2007 10:22 PM

Re: suicide
 
- what reasons drive a person to suicide ?

many life problems can drive you to kill urself thinkin that this thing will help you more .... but if you look forward and think again you ll see that you had passed problems that are bigger before ... killin ur soul is not the right answer .... according to the bible ... Jesus didnt give you life .... to deal with it as you want .... always there is a back step and return to every foolish thing while askin God's help .... while praying ... while giving time to Jesus ....!!!

- Is suicide a solution ? what kind of personality he has the one who tried or did suicide?

suicide is not a solution .... the person who try suicide is a person that was controlled by an evil mind and i am serious coz god didnt give anyone the right to kill himselfs. that person is hiding from himselfs .... always running away from its shadow .... look for a solution in a no-place ... he is scared .... living a panic life .....

- Ever thought on commiting suicide ?
-if ur gonna commit suicide,which is the best way do u think??

this quest is not proper for me ....
sorry systimatics but this topic is out of Church's rules...

SysTaMatIcS 04-09-2007 09:36 AM

Re: suicide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joelle
ana ble2e anno l suicide chi ktir ghalat cz allah 3atena 7ayetna w houwe bass bi 7e2ello ye5eda menna w ba3dein heyde jarime bi 7a2 7alna iza mne2tol 7alna w hiye metel ka2anno 3am ne2tol cha5es tene cz 3am ne2tol jasadna ( got it :p) w li bye2tol 7alo bi koun jabein cz ya ma fi ywejeh 7ayeto wel machekl ya manno add l 7emel ya3ne d3if ... w chou ma t3addadet l asbeb the result is 1 w it's a big mistake bi 7a2 7alna O_o

as god said (not the one created us :p) , u dont know hows the suicidal is living , no one likes to commit suicide out of nothing , but when lifes becomes black , and going to hell is much easier than the hell hes living in , he wouldnt hesisetate about it ... iv read this and it really helped alot
http://www.metanoia.org/suicide/

KeXasthur 04-09-2007 11:35 AM

Re: suicide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by god
eh i agree with u joelle, im against suicide, bas u're talking from an outside perspective, you dont know how it feels to be in very very VERY deep sh*t in life, mech 3am be7ke 3an 7ale im a very happy person :P bas u hv no idea how a suicidal's life can be F'd up, sometimes its not his fault! Like this little girl i heard about on tv, nobody liked her at her school cz she had some MINOR deformation, and everyone kept bullying her, and she couldnt tell her parents because they were very strict with her (her father was an alcoholic) and the school administration didnt care, so one day some children started to tell her that she should kill her self, and being so young and them being her only influencing source, she actually got sooo desperate and shot herself with her father's gun, and she was just 12, dont generalise, suicide is a very vast term..Sometimes WE are the ones who should change, not them..
Life isnt always what the 'catechese' teacher says

I think this is the most perfect answer out here :)
I second You ...;):)

Thanks ...

noussa 04-10-2007 09:55 PM

Re: suicide
 
- what reasons drive a person to suicide ?
desperation depression and monotonous life drives a person to suicide
- Is suicide a solution ? what kind of personality he has the one who tried or did suicide?

no it's not a solution, we should stereotype but usually weak personnalities go to sucide to escape from the problems instead of facing them
- Ever thought on commiting suicide ?
NO let's hope i'll never will
-if ur gonna commit suicide,which is the best way do u think??

dunno O_o cut my wrist with a blade, an injection of air, a pill, jump from the balcony(i live on the 4th floor:D ),overdose,...i'm being creative:D :D !!

Justin 04-10-2007 10:07 PM

Re: suicide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by systamatics
...but when lifes becomes black , and going to hell is much easier than the hell hes living in , he wouldnt hesisetate about it ... iv read this and it really helped alot

I have to agree with Joelle... what makes u sooo sure that the hell in life living is much harder than Hell in after life.. did u go back n come?
When life closes a door climb through a window... there's no problem, issue that human being cannot control it..even if U CANNOT CONTROL IT n that u can do nuth about it... God will give u justice after all.. if its not in real life, then in maybe after life... but commiting suicide ain't a solution...

SysTaMatIcS 04-11-2007 10:15 AM

Re: suicide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin
I have to agree with Joelle... what makes u sooo sure that the hell in life living is much harder than Hell in after life.. did u go back n come?
When life closes a door climb through a window... there's no problem, issue that human being cannot control it..even if U CANNOT CONTROL IT n that u can do nuth about it... God will give u justice after all.. if its not in real life, then in maybe after life... but commiting suicide ain't a solution...

am against suicide.... iv been through alot of trouble since i was 14 , sometimes people cant repulse the suicide feelings , and they feel like goin to that hell is easier than the one here , its something they feel not control...no matter how hard the life gets theres always a light at the end of the tunnel , iv been through this , but to bad the light doesn last , i go back into another tunnel again , stupid tunnels life!

Maymouma 04-12-2007 04:26 PM

Re: suicide
 
teb j'ai une autre question:
Durkheim(philosophe et fondateur de la sociologie) basé sur des statistiques allemande a constaté que l'homme divorcé est plus "menacé" par le suicide que la femme(divorcée bien sur)
Pourquoi a votre avis?

Justin 04-12-2007 05:49 PM

Re: suicide
 
Im not sure if I know the answer but here's the way I view it:

Men work all day long to come back home and have some rest n sit back with their wifes ... but y u wanna get home if there's no one (divorce.. u'll feel another part of u is missing), u donno what's bothering u.. u wanna just let it go, unleash ur depression, or go insane... which through time to another, they reach the suicide thing...

Im not sure.. but that's the way I understood it

SysTaMatIcS 04-15-2007 11:02 AM

Re: suicide
 
حذرت صحيفة مصرية من انتشار جمعية "محبي الموت " بين بعض الشباب عبر مواقع ومنتديات الكترونية، مشيرة الى أن الجمعية تنسب لنفسها بعض حوادث الانتحار بين المعتقلين في السجون المصرية، فيما قال شباب مصريون انهم يتلقون رسائل الكترونية تحضهم على الانتحار من قبل الجمعية.
ووفقا لتقرير أوردته صحيفة "المصري اليوم" الصادرة في القاهرة الاحد 15-4-2007 ، فتتبنى هذه الجماعة - التي أسسسها بعض الشباب العربي في اليابان قبل ثلاث سنوات - مفهوما انهزاميا للحياة يقضي بالتخلص منها حال تعرض الشخص لأزمات اجتماعية واقتصادية.
وتدعو هذه الجمعية - من خلال مواقعها ومنتدياتها على شبكة الانترنت - الشباب إلي التخلص من الحياة، لأن الحياة التي نعيشها -علي حد قولهم- حياة زائفة، والحياة الحقيقية توجد في العالم الآخر، وأخذت هذه الجماعة في نشر أفكارها بين شباب مصر بصفة خاصة لأنهم يرون أن الشباب المصري هو شباب ليس له سبيل للراحة سوي الموت، نظراً لما يعانيه في حياته اليومية من فقر وبطالة وتأخر سن الزواج، بالإضافة إلي القمع الفكري والثقافي والسياسي.
ولفت تقرير الصحيفة الى هذه الجماعة اتخذت من بعض الأقوال الدينية وسيلة للترويج لأفكارها الهدامة كمقولة "الضرورات تبيح المحظورات" والتي تعتبر الشعار الأول لها.
ونقلت المصري اليوم عن أحد أفراد الجماعة ويلقب نفسه باسم "ديفل" قوله إن الجمعية تشهد في هذه الأيام رواجاً منقطع النظير، ونسب لجماعته حوادث انتحار عدد كبير من المعتقلين في السجون المصرية بشكل خاص والعربية بشكل عام، وقال أيضاً إن الجماعة تبدأ في هذه الأيام في حملتها لرفع المعاناة عن الشباب ومساعدتهم علي التخلص من هذه الحياة من خلال تنظيم حفلات للانتحار الجماعي(علي حد قوله).



شباب يتحدثون عنها
في الوقت نفسه ، قال شباب مصريون إنهم تعرضوا لنشاط جمعية محبي الموت من خلال الرسائل الإلكترونية التي تأتيهم عبر الميل وتدعوهم للايمان بافكارها.
وقال أحمد عزالدين (٢٥ سنة) طالب بكلية تجارة جامعة عين شمس، إنه عرض علي أحد المنتديات مشكلته والتي تتلخص في عدم رغبته في الحياة بسبب رسوبه أكثر من مرة بالجامعة نتيجة مشاكل عائلية ، ولكنه فوجئ بعد عدة أيام من هذا برسالة من شخص الجمعية تؤكد له أنها تستطيع تحقيق رغبته.
وتعرض أيضاً هشام محمود (٢١ سنة) لنفس الشيء بعد أن ترك تعليقاً علي موضوع بخصوص الانتحار علي أحد المنتديات وفوجئ هو الآخر برسالة علي الإيميل الإلكتروني الخاص به من الجماعة.
كذلك صادف مايكل سمير (٢٤ سنة) أن أرسلت له الجماعة هذه الرسالة بعد أن نشر مقال علي منتدي يفيد بأنه مكتئب جداً بعد أن تركته خطيبته بسبب ظروفه المادية السيئة.



خبراء يحذرون من الجماعة
من جانبها ، أشارت وكالة رويترز للأنباء في تقرير بثته مؤخرا ، إلي أن حالات الانتحار عبر الإنترنت التي تشرف عليها جمعية ( محبي الموت) على الانترنت قد تحولت إلي ظاهرة في العالم العربي، إذ كان عدد ضحايا هذه الجماعة في بداية عملها عام ٢٠٠٣ (٣٤) شخصاً، ولكنها ارتفعت في أواخر عام ٢٠٠٦ إلي ١٢٠٠ حالة خاصة بعد عودة الجماعة الى نشاطها مؤخرا.
وعلق "كيت هيوتن" مدير مركز الأبحاث، قسم العلوم النفسية في جامعة أكسفورد لرويترز على نشاط الجماعة مشير الى تهاون المجتمع العربي، خاصة وسائل الإعلام، في التصدي لهذه الظاهرة.
وأوصي بضرورة إنشاء موقع إلكتروني يقوم بعمل واسع النطاق يحذر من خطورة هذه الجمعية ، ويقوم بدور مناهض لنشاطها
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general3ff 04-15-2007 02:29 PM

Re: suicide
 
suicide = hell

when you are suicide this mean that you are attach to somthing you can't leave it
it is a preson


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