Lebanon - Syria
 

how do you describe the lebanese - syrian relation?
syria is and enemy or a friend?
please answer and elaborate

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it s just a neighbour country men zamen w halla2 we had a periode where lebanon and syria were freinds and a periode where we and syrian were enemies so an arabic neighbour like others

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for me, syria is an enemy. just like israel
and they used - and still fighting us in the same way and even more savage than israel did.

Zahle battle, ashrafieh, damour, ayshiyyeh and many massacres and battle are unforgivable

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by the way, i dont believe in so called 3oroubeh and all these claims.
im not proud in my arabian identidy.
but im SO PROUD IN MY LEBANESE IDENTITY

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http://photos-214.ak.facebook.com/ip...66214_6834.jpg

please try to read whats written inside the photo

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for me syria was and still our enemy,u can c from the ammount of weapons yalle 3am yitharrabo from its border,and syria and it's ba3th regime is always sticking its nose in our political life ,and i'll always concider syria as an enemy untill it changes it views towards lebanon and starts respecting us

as for the arab thing i disagree with unknown and agree with bachir gemayel for more info visithttp://vcoderz.com/forum/showthread....hlight=arab+OR

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Thank You for quoting Abdel halim Khaddam who is now considered as a patriotic syrian and an important ally to the 14 feb group as described by walid Jumblat ...

Let's say what's said on the tongue of Abdel Halim Khaddam is the syrian point of view towards Lebanon ...

Can you please tell us what lebanon represents to Israel ?

Thank You ...

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listen, for the millionth time, dont get me in 14 - 8 - FPM conflicts
i dont trust khaddam and i dont consider him partiotic
i quoted him for myself and i dont care what jumblat or hariri or geagea say about him. ok ?

enemies too
every country attacked lebanon, and still have lebanese detanees inside its land is an enemy

PS: dont drift me into other topic, lets keep talking about syria, open a thread for israel if you want

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man sm7ali elak enou ur a person ma 3endak mabda2 , ya 7abibi , abel 7alim khadam is a patriotic hero for ur party and for all bachir loverss , so man plz 7ajj te7ki politics ba2a la2nou kel mailak 3am twargi 3an ta3asob , man cause ur showing that ur naro minded

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Why you took this defensive attitude? i didn't accuse you being a member of 14 or 8 or 11 ;)
you have the right to quote anybody and i have the right to respond accordingly ... you may not agree with jumblat or hariri or geagea, but there are other members who agree with them
enemies who have much bigger greed towards lebanon than Syria

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bachir-Gemayel PS: dont drift me into other topic, lets keep talking about syria, open a thread for israel if you want

you brought israel to the topic by saying:
you put them on the scale an found them equal and later on more savage, so that's why i would like to know what Lebanon represent to Israel, and not what do you think about Israel

Thank You ...

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okay thanks for the advice
by the way my party is bachir
and akid bachir lovers consoder khaddam a "piece of sh**"

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u said that he's a hero according to jumblatt (as if i care about jumblatt's opinion)
u were quoting me about what did i quoted (lol) so u must be adressing me right?

i did said that syria and israel are like each other, BUT what syria did is more savage. thats what i said.

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7abibi min fawat al souriyeh 3a lebnain !!!! michen min faitou !!!!
we la ye7mou min faitou???

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i quoted you to thank you for the picture you showed, so that other members who support the 14 feb group, know what Khaddam (who they consider now as an ally) used to think or still think (i don't know) about Lebanon ;)
and yet you fail to understand my question ...
anyway it's not a problem ...

For me syria now is a neighboor, who we should keep friendly connections with regardless if we agree on their regimen or not ...

Thank You ...

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he still thinks like this about lebanon, im sure
i told you i dont trust him and i dont trust no one from the syrian regime and who call themselves EX-syrian

me and you for sure dont have a problem with the syrian people
the problem is with the regime
and i wont accept to be friends with this regime

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You dont trust anyone whos was X-Syrian.
The Whole of the 14 feb gans were x-syrian.
Samir geagea went to syria for talks.
Ur leaders in the civil war were with syria, they demanded it to interveen because they were getting slaughtered by palestinians. Remember who brought the syrians into lebanon in the 1st place.

Lebanon - Syria
 

how many times do i have to tell you all that i dont belong to anyone :@

and what do you mean by "my leaders" as if i have leaders

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Then which line of thought do u follow?

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Just a neighbour country that we have to learn dealing with it .. for our own good ... that's why general Aoun once said "bedna a7san 3ale2et ma3 souriya wa2ta tsir barrat lebnen .." we cant be enemies because it's not good for us and we cant be friends because we tried it and all we got was 13 years of occupation ... So just a neighbour that we have to deal with

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I just wish for once that u care this much for beeing Israel's ENEMY ... I think u really are commited to ur political leader

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u forgot to add to the poll "I just dont give a ****"... why?.. simply.. since she's outta here... let us live alone n in peace, byekfe yalli fina men juwa.. we dun need troubles from outsiders specially Israel n Syria featuring America...

peace

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The leader is dead now, im commited to his mentality and beliefs.
anyway this is not the topic he asked me to what party i belong and i told him thats it.

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I know this might drift the thread off topic and I am sorry to do that.
Before I say want I want to say, you should know that I voted for "enemy" for obvious reasons.
But the real question imo is What does Syria consider Lebanon? relations are between two nations and both have to agree on the same principles for the relations to work,

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enno guyz,why kell ma njib sirit syria btjibo sirit isreal,the 2 nations are enemy,but in my oppinion syria is more harmful and harmed and tortured the lebanese much more than israel !

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They can't say syria is good so to "defend" it they bring up Israel saying it's worst, Let's not discuss this now, bass uno even if it was worst, how does this affect the relation with Syria?

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my friend,
keep in mind that syria (and i mean baathist assadist regime) is just another shape of zionism just like israel, and really as lf-rabieh said they are more dangerous
they talk about 3oroubeh and 3arab and all this cr*p and at the end but spit all the poison to our beloved lebanon.

man syria threatned us and is still threatning us (israel too) , and they dont care about us
this regime consider lebanon as a part of bilad el sham and sourya l kobra , they consider lebanon mokata3a bi souriyya
we are (in their view) an extra border on their map

but the 10452 km2 have shown to all those countries who think themself great and big, that this 10452 and the 10452 of 10452 are unbreakable. im really proud that im lebanese that have its "independant" identity and i dont accept anyone to take from me my identity

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over the history ya3ne the past history we weren't enemies with syria on the contrary we had a similar history with them especially with the french occupation (1920 to 1946) but the relation went wrong when syria came to lebanon and occupied it so when syria got out we had to rebuild our neighbourly or friendly or whatever relationship with Syria b/c we don't fight her on her land we fight her on our land we know when our fight ends ,, and that's the difference between us .. but over the history also we weren't friends with Israel .. we were enemies so when Israel gets out of Lebanon (sheb3a's lebanese farms domn L 10452km2) we will return to our ordinary relation with Irael which will always be the enemy .. halla2 14 february are against syria now and i'll say that they will always be like that if it returns and SHN in the MOU and our allies will be against Syria if it returns to Lebanon (which I find unreliable .. if not impossible) so everyone is against Syria if it occupies lb again so what more is wanted?? ... but we can't sleep in the night knowing that people want peaceful relations with Israel or people sayin that Israel is less dangerous than Syria (with syria out of lb) or people considering Israel as a neighbour...

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Now ur gonna accuse me of defending Israel bass yalla:

Israel didn't exist before 48 so we were not enemies before that, The first real direct problems with Syria (and Egypt back then) started in 58, the First direct problems with Israel started in the end of the 50s too.
PS: Palestine is not my problem.

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lol ba3rif ur problem is with Syria .. anyway we weren't friends with Israel in any time ... except for some political leaders which are not 3ala mostawa Lebanon...

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The syrians began to close their borders with Lebanon and today Chare3 is threatening of closing all the Lebanese-Syrian borders,from tayyar.org :

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what you said is so true :)
but you said it maskhara but its true, that syria is the cuase of all our troubles, as lebanese a said, before even israel exist :)

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Personally i consider that Syria was an ennemy and could re-be an ennemy if she get the chance to re-enter Lebanon. The Syrian regime is based on dictatorism, mafia gangs and secret intelligence. And i really can't forget what they did to us during the 30 years which have passed and now they are under international pressure and have their own sh** to deal with but this doesn't mean that if get the chance to take their revenge they won't! Anyway the thread opened by lebanese_a about the syrian horrors in lebanon explain more the view and i really don't trust them not as a neighbour and not as friend or whatever coz they ain't! If they were they wouldn't have made us suffer like this! :@

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Well, i think that sirya is a enemy of Lebanon,of course not like israel but guess i couldn't count sirya as a normal next door neighbour.Because after what Syria did to us... i dont think we should call it less that enemy.In 13 october 1990 sirya throwed bombs all over the baabda region and especially over Genral Michel Aoun head.And sirya did and still have a lot of bad intention's to Lebanon...Like many country's