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How did you choose your party?
Georges, why are you communist? listen, take it this way I am orthodox....true? true. Russians are orthodox....true? true. Russians are communist. true? true. so now you know why i am a communist. no offend but this is a true story. and it shows one way of chosing your party. ask yourself and share the answer regards. |
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maybe some people have this view ,,, but as for me i don't care what's the religious affiliation of the party which i support ...i am Aounist even before i knew what's GMA religion ... even if he was a Jew i would have been an FPM'er ... it's about the principles .. those who support a party based on its religious affiliation are ignorants and doesent deserve a country ..
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It's more than a political party
it's a social group it's a family it's Lebanese it's patriotic it's clean it has the cleanest history it has nothing to do with blood... that's why I chose ithttp://www.vcoderz.com/forum/images/icons/icon7.gif |
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- Anti corruption
- Never kissed foreign hands - Never compromised on Lebanese sovreignty - Proud history that be resumed by 1 quote "the world can crash me but it won't have my signature" that's what attaches me to FPM never compromise to anyone on my rights. - Non religious party who has supporters from all regions and sects and this forum is a true example. - Never accepted to be representer of the occupier. - If it was about religion i would have sided other parties who are known to be christian parties. |
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i dont have a specific party but i prefer hizbollah the most , resistance and sacrifice since 1985 , never participated in the civil war , beated the 4th best army in the world twice , they have an ideology their workin on it perfectly , commited to their leader , they have democracy , unlike most of the other lebanese parties , sayid hasan is NOT the son of sayid abbas mosawi , they r for god , they r for serving him in this life , theyr proud of being arabic and muslims , they dont present the radical islamic ideology but a neutral way of islam , the way it should really be , bilieve in other relegions and bilieves in sharing , hizbollah
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well, 1st of all i saw all parties, nd of course i prefered the 3ilmani parties, i found the best 2 r the shouyu3i and the syrians social nationalists... well despite wats the present status of these 2 parties nowadays... bt both have great ideologies, nd great men throughout their long history. well how does every party looks 4 life... 4 religion, nd 4 nation. i found out that the best ideology is the syrian social nationalist one... it cares 4 religion more then the mufti nd the batrak cares 4, while communists dont give a **** abt such important pt. , am not talkin abt the political views and mistakes at the present time, am just pointing 4 the ideology. FPMs r on their way as i think to build important thoughts, bt till now i cant find it... 7izbullah is a resistance party, am with HA till the end, as long as he holds the resistance flag... while 4 all other parties i can just c some interests, some money,they will end nd other similar parties will take their place...
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mmmm if i should follow this process so i shld be LFer :S
1- i live in furn el chebbeck 2- 3/4 LFers 3- tho logo was "wa7da bte7me shar2iye 2ouwet lebneniye" since "furn el chebbeck" is from Char2iye so im protected from LFers right? its weird, bcz its not the case... Im FPMer, im not "Aouniye" that what most of FPMers should say, bcz in general we support the idea and we respect l mabda2 taba3 l 7ezb and we dont follow a leader wizout being sure men mabda2o...wizout going through liking/disliking the leader, cz i dont really care abt it, (u can love maths and hate the teacher and vice-versa) mseb2e eno i love GMA kamen not only l mabda2 :D Im 21 years old, i think im mature enough, and i know 2 which party i should belong, and not wait other to decide for me |
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well i choosed my party for many reasons :
1- corruption and all this debts 2- no stability 3- war after war and people fight each other 4- instead of saying i m lebanese i must say my religion. 5- we arrived to a place where we need to go outside the country for dialogue. 6- no security. 7- the word hope becomes so cheap we always says there s hope and until now nothing appear . ...... for all these reasons i decided to join the VISA party . |
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Hezbollah is the only party who didnt share or participate or enter or believe in any type of the civil war . so far , it is the best party that takes everything with wisdom and testifies everything . God didnt create Hassan Nasrallah and didnt make any other peoples ! Hassan Nasrallah isnt Abbass Mousawi's son , and for sure we DO NOT LIKE Hassan Nasrallah for his personality , we like him because he does represent the real idealogie of Islam , and represent the real meaning of the resistance , unlike other movements of killing and terror those undercover with many " USA made titles" , Hezbolla is clear and clean in his own policy . finaly ,Abbas Mousawi scrifice himself and his family and offered their souls to Lebanon, Hassan Nasralla lost his son " Hadi " while resisting in the south , while lot of leaders' sons are drunk in night clubs . |
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the only party who has nothing to do with the lebanese civil war is the free patriotic movement |
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Aoun fighted LF in the name of disarming militias, while there was many and MANY armed militias other than LF! |
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n btw fpm his aoun , if ur talkin abt parties , well tayyar al taw7eed will be a party tht ddnt participate in the war , and fm ... and other new partoies... |
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concerning Aoun's militia, he was the army leader, w the army was legal lool a militia steals people and doesn't free a country :) why LF? because you never know what the LF was doing in check points ;) |
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first of all Hezbollah didnt kill any lebanese or assassinate any leader or any human being from 1982 ( moment of birth ) till now .
second : Hezbollah didnt enter with any one in civil war , and what was happining in Iklim el Tiffeh in 1988 - 1992 was Amercan-syrian war . if you dont know about it , please refere to a good pure clean honest reference and ask him : why Hezbolla was fighting Amal in Iklim . third : Imam khomayni is the one who stopped that stupid war and said : fighting between same people is like one brother kills his brother so what about Shiist kills another Shiist ! and for what ? for Amerca or some money ? and if you know also , they stopped Sheik Tofayli and put in his place Sayid Abbas mousawi to accomplish what Imam khomainy said . finaly , i like hezbollah more than Amal just for one single political thing ( shi siyese mish diné akid ) , cause Hezbollah kept fighting Israel in 1982 and never take any illegal money from lebanon while others have savage spirit w keno 3am ytejro bil masakin w yeklo ta3abon tahet shi3arat sakhife w fergha |
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ur post brings too many questions! and by the way.. YOU KNOW ALSO what PSP and AMAL used to do on checkpoints ;) but why aoun have chosen to fight christians only? ma sa2alet 7alak wala marra? go back and see that all the armed militias used to do the same, and btw Aoun was never legal and never will be, he had a gov with 3 christians, and now you are accusing the government enno ma fiya shi3a! lool go back to your history and things will be clear for you. |
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who said "kell l fekhar l mkassar baddna nekhlas menno" while ken fi KTIIIIIIIIIIIIIR fekhar mkassar! other militias attacked the army w rej3it n7allit! who said "bimoun l general" ? who suggested tanezolet??? who said "ma baddna ma3raket masi7e - masi7e" and btw tell me, since the 89/90 army was legal, why they used to call him "masi7e" w "shar2iyyeh" min ballash yetjahhaz lal 7areb abel bi 2 months??? what happened in mansourieh and furn l shebbak ? what happened in ain l remmeneh? who said "metel ma ben7afez 3al jeych baddna n7afez 3al ouwwet ya samir" !!! ???????? who said "eza rebe7 l jeych betkoun reb7it l ouwwet ya general" ???????? i was young back then ur right.. but your pt. of view about the christian-christian war opened by the so-called army militia (leader) is not always right |
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For God's sake lool stop writing these things lool.. Because after saying THIS, many actions were taken against the "Bimoun el General"'s quote.. And these words isn't translated from the Bible by St. Samir.. رجل الكلمة .. 3a ases kelemto naffi3a atti3a lool |
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Plz everyone stick to the thread,feel free to open another thread if u want to discuss any other topic .
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This is my reply to BG, smell the coffee dude you were another syrian hand kisser not to say something else.
These headlines were taken from al nahar newspaper archive. عون يطلب انسحابا قواتيا من بيروت وجعجع يرد أنه سيقاوم الحص: ظاهرة التمرد التي يقودها عون خطر على المنطقة والشرق الأوسط 02/02/1990 العماد يتهم القوات بالتآمر لتنفيذ الطائف 04/02/1990 أعلنت قيادة الجيش السيطرة على ضبية وجعجع تحدث عن انسحاب تكتيكي 05/02/1990 الحص: حبل العصيان قصير وها قد دقت ساعة الحساب 06/02/1990 فاروق الشرع: على عون أن يتنحى 07/02/1990 العماد يطالب جعجع بموقف علني وواضح من الطائف الفاتيكان يتحدث عن اتفاق أميركي – سوري على تنحية العماد 08/02/1990 جعجع: المقاومة المسيحية لا يمكنها أن تقبل بالغائها 09/02/1990 جمبلاط: لو نجحت مبادرة اعادة المهجرين لما كانت حربا التحرير والابادة 11/02/1990 الاشتباكات مستمرة على الجبهات تأليف "قيادة قوى الجيش المحايدة" بقيادة الضابط بول فارس في عمشيت 13/02/1990 العماد عون: هدفنا تحقيق دولة نموذجية لا تسلط فيها لبندقية غير شرعية اده: في هذه الحرب أنا مع الجنرال 14/02/1990 قافلة محبة وتواصل تحمل مساعدات تعبر الخطوط الى المنطقة الحرة 15/02/1990 الجيش يسيطر على عين الرمانة بعد معارك ضارية جعجع يطلب بذل الجهود الممكنة لانقاذ لبنان من المحنة المضمرة 16/02/1990 سحب المغاوير من أدما بعد هجوم عنيف استهدفها دام أكثر من 12 ساعة الراسي: الوضع الشاذ في الشرقية سيزول ولا بد من الاستعانة بالقوة السورية 19/02/1990 العماد لا يرى حوارا جديا قبل اخلاء المنطقة الشرقية من المسلحين 02/02/1990 صدام يشترط على الأسد الاعتذار والانسحاب من لبنان قبل اجراء أي مصالحة عراقية- سورية 22/02/1990 بعد الوساطات, جعجع: المرحلة السوداء انتهت ولا معارك بعد الآن 27/02/1990 بوش للهراوي: دعمنا مستمر لكم ولحكومتكم ميتران: كل القوى حول شرعية الهراوي الجيش: لا تطبيع ولا مسلحون في الأماكن الآهلة 02/03/1990 العماد وجعجع بين توازن رعب وطريق مسدود 05/03/1990 العماد يدعو لانسحاب القوات الى الثكن تمهيدا لتوحيد البندقية 07/03/1990 العماد عون: الحل يمكن أن يكون الطائف زائدا فاصلة أو شيئا جديدا تماما 08/03/1990 عون: أدعو لحل يقبله اللبنانيون ويمكنني عندئذ أخذ اجازة 14/03/1990 عون: الحلم لا ينتهي الا بتحقيقه أو اغتيال صاحبه 15/03/1990 محاولة خطف ادمون نعيم من قبل مرافقو "الوزير" الخازن 16/03/1990 انقسام في حكومة الحص حول التعامل مع قضية نعيم 18/03/1990 الحص يصر على استقالة الخازن 21/03/1990 عون يلتقي السفير ألا ويطلب منه المضي في مساعيه قضية نعيم طويت مثل بقية القضايا واستقالة الخازن حفظت 26/03/1990 الاشتباكات بين الجيش والقوات مستمرة , والخروقات الأمنية مستمرة عون: الطائف نهاية لبنان 28/03/1990 جعجع: ننسحب للهراوي في بيروت في مقابل ضمانات لانسحاب الجميع 29/03/1990 الاجتماع الماروني: الموافقة على التسليم الى الهراوي والحوار معه الأحرار يطرح مشروع استفتاء شعبي حول الطائف, شرعية العماد عون وحرب توحيد البندقية 30/03/1990 بداية المعارك الضارية في القليعات 03/04/1990 المعارك مستمرة في القليعات الأحرار ينسحب من مجلس قيادة القوات لأنها تستعمل السلاح ضد مجتمعها لتحقيق مكاسب شخصية 04/04/1990 بكركي تتوسط بين العماد وجعجع جعجع: لانهاء الأزمة, يجب تسليم لحود جميع الثكن العسكرية في لبنان 05/04/1990 العماد يرحب بحوار مع الهراوي من دون شروط 08/04/1990 العماد: لجنة الوساطة فشلت وليس للبطريرك سلطة علي لاني لا أستمد سلطتي من الكنيسة (ردا على تهديد البطريرك) 10/04/1990 سعادة (بعد عودته الى لبنان) : قرار قريب في شأن المشاركة في حكومة الحص 11/04/1990 سعادة يزور الهراوي 17/04/1990 تدهور أمني بين أمل وحزب الله طوقه السوريون العميد الحايك يتسلم ثكنة صربا والقاعدة البحرية من القوات 18/04/1990 اصابة اوتوكار بالقنص في المتحف والحصيلة 11 قتيل و388 جريح انفجار في مبنى "القوة الضاربة" في اليرزة واستشهاد 3 عسكريين اشتباك مسلح يتجدد في الشياح وعين المريسة ينتهي بتدخل السوريين 19/04/1990 مدارس بيروت في الشطرين تعلن الاضراب وتدين الاعتداء على الأوتوكار 23/04/1990 الحص: عون هو الحاجز الأساسي دون تقدم الشرعية عون: الطائف شيء زائل ولم أعد أبحث فيه 25/04/1990 تدهور أمني واسع ألهب المحاور والقذائف طاولت جبيل والضاحية 01/05/1990 جعجع يدعو عون الى تسليم بعبدا واليرزة الى الهراوي 03/05/1990 عون: لا وجود للبنان في خطة بايكر جعجع: موقف عون من الطائف يؤدي عمليا الى أكبر خيانة 05/05/1990 تدهور أمني على جميع الجبهات والقصف طاول المنطقة الغربية عون: نحن في صدام مع المتعاملين جعجع: لا يمكن تجاوز سوري |
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i wish i can upload some videos!
ill try to find them on youtube and post them for you by tonight ;) |
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Showing many massacres made by the Lebanese Forces and samir geagea positions about the syrians... The right time ;) |
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as long as its not 14 shbat , i have no problem !
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i would like to disagree that checkpoints are the reason. if you know what were the super events taking place on these checkpoints....please tell me. it was normal for someone running for presidency to prove he is in control of his close neighbourhood. in this i don't blame GMA....it is very normal. but when he started his war against LF, did he set targets and deadlines? i don't think, and the proof is GMA declared his plan to besiege and close all illegal ports. within 1 week our ports were paralised by syrians and allies. this is what i call.. 1-lack of planning. 2-setting big targets and talking big titles.....with no resources to achieve these targets. Conclusion: he is good only in talking otherwise in the military standards he is a failure. |
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for the Hezbollah loyalists... you're pretty much born into it...
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And I really don't care what Aoun did in the past... Everybody wasn't following the rules, and everyone was doing his/her own thing...Right?;) and those who participated were pardoned... we can play the blame game all day, every day until judgement day... only one party did its duty, the rest share the same guilt... and this guilt was pardoned... Point finale... Salam, Ahmad |
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This thread is a living proof that Lebanon has always been and will always be an under-developed country... The question was simple: how did you chose your party? and just smother yourselves in topics you don't understand while the answer is simple: you inherited your political affiliations.
As for me I am an FPM supporter by choice (and this might change at any time) because they propose an alternative to what makes us so under-developed. As for the responsibility in the war: it is shared by ALL and ALL are GUILTY and there is nothing called "MORE GUILTY" except for the Armenians we always criticize. |
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Well, i chose my party "ARF"Aremanian Revolutionary Federation "7ZB EL TASHNAG" for a simple reason.Their goal is to free Armenia OUR HOME LANDS... And their history is clean,they try to Unity Armenians and always made sacrifices for their own country.and for the lebanese-civil-war, the only party that did not participate in this war is ARF,though some attack were made by LF on our CLUBS and we resisted the attacks. anyways im loyal to my party and i chose it with by my own will , no obligations.:)
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As for the "participation is war" thing you are 101% right and I bow to the respect you have showed towards Lebanese lives. You are the only ones who know the "value" of a human life. "Good evening and good night" |
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I chose Tayyar because it has a program for Lebanon's development & evolution. No other party can compare in this regard.
Also, for the following reasons: Because GMA has given hope to Lebanese people, while others create fear and hate. Because GMA has promised to cleanup the corruption in Lebanon, so we won't have to pay 50,000LL bribe to a corrupt government worker for "a stamp and a signature". Because LF hates him. The more they hate him, the more I will Love FPM. |
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Im Marada.
Why? - Im from Zgharta, simply. - The Marada came to be after the Zghartawi families united to defend Zgharta and the Faith from over hundreds of thousands of foes, namely Palestinians and their Lebanese allies, the SSNP, the Syrian Army, and the Lebanese Forces and Kataeb later on. - The Marada have always used their remarkable ties with Syria for the good of Lebanon. - The Marada have broken the trend and brought major development projects to the region, namely the Zgharta Casa, unlike Hariri and co. who focus only on Beirut and Downtown. - The Marada represent my origins, roots, faith, family and town. They also have the goals i believe will make Lebanon a better place. - The Marada never acted indecently or committed crimes against humanity in the Civil War, unlike other Christian parties... |
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You are all very patriot, really, when I comes to gloating, bragging, accusing, pointing fingers at each other... And for this I really admire you.
Let's just put aside the brainwashing and manipulations (of course you'll deny, that's the whole point of manipulation), how many of you ever helped, in any way, SOS Village? or INJAZ? or SESOBEL? or AUXILIA? or CARITAS? How many of you volunteered to help clean the coast after the Israeli attacks? No, you're just patriots because you wave a flag from time to time, curse when you watch television and debate with your friends... The only patriots I know are teachers, some religious preachers, NGO workers and people who donate time and money for the welfare of the poorer. I just would've thought that after so many publications on the Lebanese war that you would've realized how stupid the previous generations were and how they were played like puppets... But no! Some people just don't learn, just bathing in their own ignorance. "When the people leads, the leaders will follow" and it's not the other way around... Don't let them anymore tell you what to do... You should tell them what to do... So many great minds in this country, yet so imbecile. Good evening and good night.:D |
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