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xcoder

07-12-2007 07:04 AM

Why Murr announced the end of the battles?

Last time the minister of defence announced the end of the battles in naher el bared, there have been talking that the Army chief called him during the break asking him why did he made such an announcement and that they still have the old camp.
In addition many talked over the media that the battles are over and the Army will not enter the old camp.
Why did that happen? was there a political solution that the army rejected later?

lebanese_a

07-12-2007 09:34 AM

Re: Why murr announced the end of the battles?

Umh I guess azdo they took all there position (which was true when he said it) w ba3ed 3andone tondif (which he said) , bass the tondiff took more time then expected I guess.
Anyways waiting for the end of the battles not for the winning of the position would have been better.

SysTaMatIcS

07-12-2007 10:13 AM

Re: Why murr announced the end of the battles?

its a new american strategy they did it in iraq , and did it afghanistan , they say , while things are gonna get much harder and tougher...

JouJoulika

07-12-2007 06:48 PM

Re: Why Murr announced the end of the battles?

I guess SHN was right when he said don't let the army get into the "zwarib L dayy2a" this is an army fighty less than One hundred person .. why has it not ended yet???

BG	07-12-2007 07:11 PM

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i wish that i can talk to El-Murr, i have to ask him "WHY THE HELL THE ARMY DIDNT USE THE GAZELLE AND THE AIR FORCE" ??????

lebanese_a

07-12-2007 07:21 PM

Re: Why Murr announced the end of the battles?

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Originally Posted by BG

i wish that i can talk to El-Murr, i have to ask him "WHY THE HELL THE ARMY DIDNT USE THE GAZELLE AND THE AIR FORCE" ??????

gazelle fhemna, bass aya airforce minone??

PS: I don't think we have a lot of gazette amo anyways!

BG	07-12-2007 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lebanese_a

gazelle fhemna, bass aya airforce minone??

PS: I don't think we have a lot of gazette amo anyways!

we only need one gazelle which contain 4 or 8 rockets (donno) to demolish them!

xcoder

07-12-2007 08:32 PM

Re: Why Murr announced the end of the battles?

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Originally Posted by BG

we only need one gazelle which contain 4 or 8 rockets (donno) to demolish them!

France didn't give the army the missiles needed without paying same thing for the u.s so we had to sacrifice our army for who claim to work against terrorists.

J()e	07-12-2007 09:59 PM

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I guess SHN was right when he said don't let the army get into the "zwarib L dayy2a" this is an army fighty less than One hundred person .. why has it not ended yet???

1-surely hn wasnt right when he said that the mou5ayyam is a redd line cz there is no red line when it comes to our army
2-and this army is fighting more than 600 terorists in a 7areb chaweri3 wish is very difficult to an "jeish nizame",w ziede ba3ed fi minno only 100-120 (i wonder why hn send some of his fighters to help our army although the army doesn't need any1's help)

SysTaMatIcS

07-12-2007 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lf rabieh

1-surely hn wasnt right when he said that the mou5ayyam is a redd line cz there is no red line when it comes to our army
2-and this army is fighting more than 600 terorists in a 7areb chaweri3 wish is very difficult to an "jeish nizame",w ziede ba3ed fi minno only 100-120 (i wonder why hn send some of his fighters to help our army although the army doesn't need any1's help)

u still talkin abt this:o , imagine hizbollah sending without the approval or demand of the army troops to there , jst imagine it!

J()e	07-12-2007 10:33 PM

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u still talkin abt this:o , imagine hizbollah sending without the approval or demand of the army troops to there , jst imagine it!

mish it would have been better if ha 3arad 3ala jeish ....;) think abt it!!

abousoun

07-12-2007 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lf rabieh

1-surely hn wasnt right when he said that the mou5ayyam is a redd line cz there is no red line when it comes to our army

actually sayyid said that leb army is red line and the camp red line not fat7 el isleim ... in response to the military act that was being talked about ... he said why rushing, why don't we wait 2 or 3 days to evacuate the camp ... and that what actually happened later on ... go back to the speech ...

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Originally Posted by lf rabieh

2-and this army is fighting more than 600 terorists in a 7areb chaweri3 wish is very difficult to an "jeish nizame",w ziede ba3ed fi minno only 100-120

now you are quoting SHN, so i guess he was right

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Originally Posted by lf rabieh

(i wonder why hn send some of his fighters to help our army although the army doesn't need any1's help)

you answered yourself

Thank You ...

J()e	07-12-2007 10:45 PM

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actually sayyid said that leb army is red line and the camp red line not fat7 el isleim ...

and did i say tht ha said that fate7 el isleim are a red line,,,i dont think so...

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now you are quoting SHN, so i guess he was right

im quoting no1,this is the truth....

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you answered yourself

this is ur answer

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mish it would have been better if ha 3arad 3ala jeish ....;) think abt it!!

SysTaMatIcS

07-12-2007 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by lf rabieh

mish it would have been better if ha 3arad 3ala jeish ....;) think abt it!!

nop it wouldnt have cuz il army adda w 2dood ;) , w mish b7agi! , then hizbollah can only fite in their terroteries , they cant go above cover to the bared camp and fite like a regular army!

sciencedoor

07-12-2007 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lf rabieh

mish it would have been better if ha 3arad 3ala jeish ....;) think abt it!!

Chou 3am te7ki inta ya zalami
El jayich adder 3ala hal mas2ali la 7alou bidoun tadakhoul men hada
wel 7ezeb mouwajah 3al 3adou' ' el isra2ili
innou inta, inta bterda chou ma ysir boukra, yrou7 rjal el 7ezeb la y7ellouha
eh 3al boukra bitsirou t2oulou dawle akbar men dawle :o
10Q

J()e	07-12-2007 10:48 PM

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nop it wouldnt have cuz il army adda w 2dood ;) , w mish b7agi! , then hizbollah can only fite in their terroteries , they cant go above cover to the bared camp and fite like a regular army!

and who said tht the army isn't adda w 2dood our army is batal...is everythn u want to say....bass ...law kenit mitl moubedara chou ken kibir bi 3ayna ha...

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and for the 100000000000000000 time i didn't say ha members should go and fight a side with the army,of course the army wont accept....and then the army is soooo capable of defeating thes insects....bass i said only have good intention and say u want to send members knowing tht the army wont accept ....(got the point....)

abousoun

07-12-2007 10:50 PM

Re: Why Murr announced the end of the battles?

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Originally Posted by lf rabieh

im quoting no1,this is the truth....

then the guy was telling the truth ;)

Thank You ...

SysTaMatIcS

07-12-2007 10:51 PM

Re: Why Murr announced the end of the battles?

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Originally Posted by lf rabieh

and who said tht the army isn't adda w 2dood our army is batal...is everythn u want to say....bass ...law kenit mitl moubedara chou ken kibir bi 3ayna ha...

read the last post the 1st page !!!

J()e	07-12-2007 10:54 PM

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HA didnt say tht

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and this army is fighting more than 600 terorists in a 7areb chaweri3 wish is very difficult to an "jeish nizame",w ziede ba3ed fi minno only 100-120

he said that the camp is a red line and the army is a red line 2 and fate7 el isleim are not a red line...so shou khass

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and this army is fighting more than 600 terorists in a 7areb chaweri3 wish is very difficult to an "jeish nizame",w ziede ba3ed fi minno only 100-120

bi kalem hn

abousoun

07-12-2007 11:10 PM

Re: Why Murr announced the end of the battles?

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Originally Posted by lf rabieh

HA didnt say tht
he said that the camp is a red line and the army is a red line 2 and fate7 el isleim are not a red line...so shou khass
bi kalem hn

bro go back to the speech ... i don't want to open this discussion coz it was discussed before in the camp invasion thread ... but just a quick review SHN said this war will be difficult for the LA coz he is jeish nizame and he is facing 7arb shaweri3 w zwerib ...
anyway god protect the Lebanese army and alla yenssro 3al fat7 el isleim

Thank You ...

General

07-12-2007 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by xcoder

because he thought that saying that on the day of his interview would make people go in the streets and cheer for him... but his trick didn't work...http://www.vcoderz.com/forum/images/icons/icon7.gif

Our dear Elias el Murr recieved a phone call during his interview with Marcel Ghanem from the our General Michel Sleiman telling him that this is just the beginning! (From a trusted source)http://www.vcoderz.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

This is an example of a Lebanese Politician, scoring political goals on behalf of the martyrs... and which martyrs?? the cleanest, the most powerful, the Lebanese Army martyrs... those who died for a real sincere cause!http://www.vcoderz.com/forum/images/icons/icon7.gif

may their souls rest in peace and may they finish fath el islam so soon

lebanon10452

07-12-2007 11:44 PM

Re: Why Murr announced the end of the battles?

well that s what i was thinking about i don't have informations but if i want to analyse the situation . at first the palestinian forces said that they will not let fath l islam enter the old camp then they entered the lebanese army take full control of the new camp so maybe the palestinians promised the army that they will control them and then it didn't appear to be possible the sniping continue . when we heard about a palestian force from all parties to enter this battle it seems some sides didn't agree and other sides refused to enter if it s not a united palestinians parties maybe this plan was made before to say that the lebanese army role end on the new camp and the palestinians parties will handle the old camp issue but it didn't happen also . but in both cases that doesn't justify to say that the battles finished so still confusing .

lebanon10452

07-13-2007 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by General Rami

scoring points for how many days ?? just two days . if it's really the case then he's silly in the end people are watching and this points he scored for two days it will go with the wind .

General

07-13-2007 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by lebanon10452

scoring points for how many days ?? just two days . if it's really the case then he's silly in the end people are watching and this points he scored for two days it will go with the wind .

he's just an amateur ;) don't you think? http://www.vcoderz.com/forum/images/icons/icon7.gif

BG	07-13-2007 09:38 AM

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Hassan Nasrallah said: The army is a red line, and it was great from him
At the same time he said: The camps are red line, why he said that ?
and where is the motivation to the army?? hayda 1
2, we all know that the civilians were gone from the camp, and just few civilians are the that were backing up the fat7 l islam and co.
3, fat7 l intifada and fat7 abu 3ammar were helping them and its obvious that they are helping them from inside the camp (my friend from Fouhoud told me)
so why do we put RED LINES to the army? instead of motivation and help.

Second part, THE RESISTANCE!
please someone define for me the word "resistance" !!!
isn't the resistance role is to block ANY invasion from ANY side, and to fight ALL enemies? where are HA? those fat7 l islam are raping our lands, killing our army, if HA dont want to fight at least back up the army as an armed militia! ammulition, weapons, etc...
but since the "islamic" resistance can only fight israel we just put red lines, and sit down and watch, is this the resistance?

General

07-13-2007 10:13 AM

Re: Why Murr announced the end of the battles?

Try not to drift away from the main subject please

SysTaMatIcS

07-13-2007 11:04 AM

Re: Why Murr announced the end of the battles?

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Originally Posted by BG

Hassan Nasrallah said: The army is a red line, and it was great from him
At the same time he said: The camps are red line, why he said that ?

we discussed this 1000s of time :)

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Originally Posted by BG

2, we all know that the civilians were gone from the camp, and just few civilians are the that were backing up the fat7 l islam and co.

when SAYID hasan said that the camps are a red line , the camp was still full with civilians!

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Originally Posted by BG

fat7 l intifada and fat7 abu 3ammar were helping them and its obvious that they are helping them from inside the camp (my friend from Fouhoud told me)
so why do we put RED LINES to the army? instead of motivation and help.

NO one from these is helping them! ur friend from fohoud is cnn??how he knows??we all know how they suddenly came to the camp and took over it by power! and not a 1 friend told me this , in my ng there more than 50 refugee from there , they all told us how they came , and how they scare them all the time , and make fites with the other organizations in the camp all the time

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Originally Posted by BG

Second part, THE RESISTANCE!
please someone define for me the word "resistance" !!!
isn't the resistance role is to block ANY invasion from ANY side, and to fight ALL enemies? where are HA? those fat7 l islam are raping our lands, killing our army, if HA dont want to fight at least back up the army as an armed militia! ammulition, weapons, etc...
but since the "islamic" resistance can only fight israel we just put red lines, and sit down and watch, is this the resistance?

n we discussed this thing before, u people are funny , i swear to god , if hizbollah from the begining said that he wonna help the army ,dighri 14 march will jump and say dawli de5il dawli , and ull be here discussing that :hawhaw: , not to say tht , hizbollah is an invisible resistance , they CANT jst go like that in a car , and join the army , theyr not trained for that! tho 5 hizbollah members can go finish fath il islam ;) , IF they were in their areas...
oh and 1 more thing , fath islam are not invading lebanon , they took a part and now the army is freein it!

General

07-13-2007 01:38 PM

Re: Why Murr announced the end of the battles?

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Originally Posted by BG

Hassan Nasrallah said: The army is a red line, and it was great from him
At the same time he said: The camps are red line, why he said that ?

because the camp contains unarmed civilians who have nothing to do with fath el islamhttp://www.vcoderz.com/forum/images/icons/icon11.gif

koukiazzzz

07-19-2007 12:26 AM

Re: Why Murr announced the end of the battles?

How long has it been since he declared victory ? a month now ?
each day soldiers are dying and the army is still fighting bad?
Is it possible that he was forced to say anything so he said that just to to score a point to this dead gvt. ?
Is it possible that he has no clue on what is happening there?
How could he give false hopes especially to the soldiers and their families whom are very anxious to see an end soon to this massacre..

But then again why wonder we are under the Sanioura Lie steal and kill regime where everything is possible and legitimate.

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