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J()e 07-18-2007 06:24 PM

Cryonics!
 
guyz wht do u think abt cryonics?,is it a good thing or a bad thing?
would u do it? if yes why and if no why?
for more info abt cryonics read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryonics

abousoun 07-18-2007 07:24 PM

Re: Cryonics!
 
Well many weird or crazy things have been described in the past and then prooved in the present to be great scientific breakthrough ...

The idea and concept of cryonics is really interesting, it aims to freeze the body of someone with incurable disease or not brain dead for example to give him hope later on with the advancement of medical researches (maybe they'll discover a cure for that disease) ... eno it's just a simple idea about the topic, but really complicated

to do it or not ... i dunno ... but probably not, coz it's really reallyyyyy expensive to do such thing :p

Thank You ...

god 07-18-2007 07:49 PM

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i kinda have no idea about this subject bas i read someeeeeeeeee of the stuff in wikipedia about it,it says eno right now revival is still impossible, and will still be impossible in the near future, bas i think eno thats like taking someone out of their grave and reviving them :S bas its not that extreme,bas they say eno it's not done unless the person has been declared dead
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cryonics can only be legally performed on humans after clinical death.
personally i dont have a problem with that,but will the public accept it ?

abousoun 07-18-2007 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by god
it says eno right now revival is still impossible, and will still be impossible in the near future

I read somewhere that they tried it on some insects and animals and it worked, but as i remember and if not mistaken it was on different temperature than the cryonics uses ...
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Originally Posted by god
bas i think eno thats like taking someone out of their grave and reviving them ,bas they say eno it's not done unless the person has been declared clinically dead

Actually there is a diffrence between clinically dead and brain dead ...
and they were accurate by saying clinically dead (not brain dead) meaning heart stopped beating and lungs stopped breathing ... and this happens all the time and the person is rescued by simple CPR (cardiopulmonary resuscitation) ... here the person if he was clinically dead still have a chance if we acted rapidly ...

the concept of cryonics doesn't go far away from this ... let's say a person with some sort of end stage disease (cancer for eg) was cardiac arrested ... we can resuscitate him and he lives for hours, days, weeks, etc ... but eventually he will die from this disease ... if that person was freezed at time of his clinical death and then later on they discovered a treatment for his cancer, he will be totally cured

Eno it's not about raising the deads and doing miracles other wise they could dig any grave and freeze any cadavre ... the most important thing is that the brain to be preserved at that time

Thank You ...

J()e 07-18-2007 08:54 PM

Re: Cryonics!
 
well i have done a research on it in school days,and i found out tht:
this is impossible at the mean time
it canot be done when ur alive
u cant cryonise all ur body,some people cryonise there sperm(men) and brain!
socity thinks tht it is against religion although a lot of people are doin it
WALT DISNEY was the first one to do it

SysTaMatIcS 07-19-2007 10:38 AM

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walt disney is freezed Now???! .

J()e 07-19-2007 10:59 AM

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walt disney is freezed Now???! .
yes,he decided to freeze his sperm and his brain bcz he beleves in this fact!

SysTaMatIcS 07-19-2007 11:07 AM

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his SpermS u mean??and his brain ,bas sho 5as his sperms!

god 07-19-2007 11:16 AM

Re: Cryonics!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abousoun
I read somewhere that they tried it on some insects and animals and it worked, but as i remember and if not mistaken it was on different temperature than the cryonics uses ...

Actually there is a diffrence between clinically dead and brain dead ...
and they were accurate by saying clinically dead (not brain dead) meaning heart stopped beating and lungs stopped breathing ... and this happens all the time and the person is rescued by simple CPR (cardiopulmonary resuscitation) ... here the person if he was clinically dead still have a chance if we acted rapidly ...

the concept of cryonics doesn't go far away from this ... let's say a person with some sort of end stage disease (cancer for eg) was cardiac arrested ... we can resuscitate him and he lives for hours, days, weeks, etc ... but eventually he will die from this disease ... if that person was freezed at time of his clinical death and then later on they discovered a treatment for his cancer, he will be totally cured

Eno it's not about raising the deads and doing miracles other wise they could dig any grave and freeze any cadavre ... the most important thing is that the brain to be preserved at that time

Thank You ...


ehh i heart about this with insects...david blaine used to use this :P they say you can put a living fly in a box in the freezer, it will freeze, then put it on some car in a shadow, then you take it in your hand, and act as if saying magic words :P it will absorb some heat from your hand and fly again, so yeah you're right ! this is rly interesting keep us updated if u find out anything new..

J()e 07-19-2007 11:20 AM

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his SpermS u mean??and his brain ,bas sho 5as his sperms!
dude his sperm houwe el wa7id yalli fi spermatozoiide,,yalle bi 5allik iza rja3et 3eshet:o terja3 tjib wled,wa 2illa kif bi jib wle!:S,and haide yalle betmaizak 3an el benet!!

SysTaMatIcS 07-19-2007 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lf rabieh
dude his sperm houwe el wa7id yalli fi spermatozoiide,,yalle bi 5allik iza rja3et 3eshet:o terja3 tjib wled,wa 2illa kif bi jib wle!:S,and haide yalle betmaizak 3an el benet!!

hehe say so :p , so he wonna have kids when hes " alive " again :D


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