Hezbollah's Arms !
 

i just want to ask some simple questions for every member in this forum :
what do you think of Hezbollah's arms ??
what's the right solution of Hezbollah's arms ??
when do you think Hezbollah should deliver its arms and how ??
do you support disarming Hezbollah by force (internal or foreign force) ??

i would like to hear especially the opinions of the loyalists in this forum, because they always attack the MoU between Hezbollah and FPM claiming that this MoU didn't give the right solution concerning Hezbollah's arms and keep accusing GMA of supporting an armed militia.
many others said that they elected GMA in the last elections, but after making this MoU with Hezbollah they found out that GMA is another jumblat and stopped their support to FPM and GMA.
so can you guys give us an answer on the above questions and let's discuss the issue.

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lemme explain this as a Hizboullah fan:

You want HA to give the army ok? to who? to the army? ok HA are ready to do this, oh wait aren't the army under orders of someone who ordered to give tea to the isrealien, aren't they ordered by a guy who is suspected to deal with Isreal? ino lets talk seriously, as long as Sanyoura and Fatfat have the power to give orders to the LA, HA won't give the weapon, ma3leh 7kou mante2.

As long as forcing them to give up the weapon, lets talk experience, didn't The Great Isreal tried in 2006, and we all know how things ended up, I mean 75% of the isrealien army left Lebanon crazy and needed pherapistes lool so I don't think by force will do a thing

the only way that they give it up is when mazere3 jeb3a crisis is over or they actually have perticipance in the gouverment

Thats My opignion :)

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Basically, it is simple as hell: when the Lebanese government will be able to provide proper security to Lebanon, then there's no need to have a second armed entity. Knowing that violence only creates more violence, taking the weapons by force is surely not the right method. HSN told it and continues to tell it every time he's being asked this question. It is even in the MoU, and we all know the MoU is the right thing.

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And when do you think that will or might happen? Doesn't this sound more like an apologotic rhetoric than it is a real objective to the Lebanese army? If the question is a question of efficiency in defense, be it measured by the number of causalties, preservetion of lands and resources, or broader objective; then clearly the same criterion should be applied to any other armed forces that claim-and expect certian trust from others to these claims-that they are the best mechanism of defense....At best we can say they are the only tried method for now...

Peace :cheers:

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Says who? Didn't they once trade Israeli prisoners that they captured(or corpses) for Arab(Palestinian,Syrian,Jordanian...) prisoners in Israeli prisons and by that clearly demonstrate that their goals and obligations are more than to be restricted by the boundaries of Lebanon? To this day, they have not clearly said, not once, that no form of participation or help is being exchanged with Hamas although they have been accused by everyone of this.... Why would you expect that a a huge trained militia, well-financed, well-established, highly trained and highly supported at all levels restrict itself to a small stip of land and some seats in a government?
Something doesn't make sense,right?

Peace :cheers:

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Why should SHN give his weapons to Sanfoura as current head of state? To end up like Geagea did in 1994 ?

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Athegan basicaly what I am saying is the following:

طلما هناك احتلال هناك مقاومة

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Hezbollah is considered as a terrorist organization only because the US said so. But we know it isn't. Why Israel isn't considered as a terrorist state? They were planning to attack Hezbollah members in their houses at night (thus, penetrating into Lebanon with or without authorization). How are Southern people supposed to sleep well while they know there's a danger of death? You have to stop thinking the US are always right, you're being brainwashed. Look how they try to control the world, how they control you. Do you think they give a damn about you? All they want is the success of their business.
The Lebanese Army cannot provide proper security because of logistical issue but more because of political issue. As there is a foreign nation influencing the government, not every Lebanese's safety can be guaranteed. Hence the need of a free-of-foreign-nation-support president.

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Do you really think,as you said in the first post, that HA will willfully give up their arms after sheb3a is back AND the remaining three LEBANESE prisoners? If you do, I don't....plus l'mokawama can be in many methods and if this is the best method, it is still not their decision to make but the collective decision of all lebanese....

What kinda double standard is it to say that it is not the right of the parliament majority to elect a president by 50%+1 and then say it is ONE PARTY's right to develop a strategy and tactic of war alone? Eza 14 march 3am yesta2esro bel solta, HA practicaly have the destiny of lebanon in their hands, which is not such a pleasent thought...



The part in blue has no relation whatsoever to what we are supposed to be atlking about.

As for the rest,you have proved what i said. It is a meaningless rhetoric. LA will never be able to protect lebanon in the full hypothetical sense you are proposing; so then what? Stay under the mercy of HA militants? and who has the right to even evaluate whether they are a good strategy or the best strategy without being demoralized and outed as a traitor who is working for Israel and America? What kinda argument can be fruitful with a person who has a gun pointed to ur head(indirectly, by threatening to escalate the situation in the south at least)? Are HA really open for suggestion? Why should it even be suggestion and pleadings as if they are a legitimate authority?

The whole situation is perverted and no logic can justify one party siezing the regional and strategic moves and thus destiny of a whole nation...

Peace :cheers:

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You people really drive me crazy. The part in blue is supposed to explain why Hezbollah's weapons are a problem. Anyway. Stop acting like victims. Who told you you have to stay under the mercy of HA? And they are pointing a gun to your head...? Man, stop talking like you're not aware of what happens in Lebanon. You're not going to tell me that HA is the only entity capable to escalate the situation in South or even in entire Lebanon. They're offering a peaceful way to end this situation (MoU). And you're talking about being demoralized and HA being closed for suggestion. But look how the others behave. No one who has his eyes open can deny it.
The Lebanese Army can protect the whole country. In every country, there is an army and political parties. But in Lebanon, most of the political parties set the people against each other. But this is gonna end soon (MoU again) so the heads start to be frightened and tell their people propaganda (like "Hezbollah's weapons are an issue"). At least if you had listened to the interview 3 days ago, you would know that their weapons weren't actually an issue before the 2006 war. It makes sense for you? If it's an issue, why don't they find a solution? The opposition has already found it and proposed it to the other parties.
Tell me, who's open for suggestion here?