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Sheriff Ice 07-23-2009 09:39 AM

Sami Gemayel is he Going to Succeed?
 
Its Seems Sami Gemayel is taking all the attraction in the media these couple days.
This Remind me of his Brother R.I.P. Pierre Gemayel before his assassination, he was making a similar action in the Lebanese political life.

Do you think Samy Gemayel will be able to change anything?!

Is he, will be able, to change that traditional behavior of the phalangist?!

or it is just another "Gemayel" family pragmatism and plays to pass time?!

Thank You.

El-Meghwar 07-23-2009 10:11 AM

Are you kidding me ?lool
Sami Gemayel is another feudal, extremist and sectarian politician.
He calls for federalism and partition.

Tawa 07-23-2009 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by El-Meghwar (Post 194094)
Are you kidding me ?lool
Sami Gemayel is another feudal, extremist and sectarian politician.
He calls for federalism and partition.

The Federalism is the only thing that's gonna keep Sami Gemayel from succeeding.

Kataeb 07-24-2009 11:32 PM

hahaha
 
ppl u should be able to distinguish between the truth and the line your following! these are 2 different things, and i think this is exactly what the lebanese ppl need be4 we have a gd political ruling system! samy gmayel is according to one of the best politician after his bro (RIP). that is y everybody is scared of him, look @ wat he is doing on the christian grounds right now! your ally franjiyeh invited him off 2 dinner and he himself said that sami is a gd politician! and look at wi2am wahab he visit sheikh ameen suddenly and talks oppitimisticly about opening new pages! u all tlaking abt sami and i doubt that anyone of u knows him:P i miyt not like other political standards but i am wise enough to admit that thye contain some pretty gd politicians!:)

SysTaMatIcS 07-24-2009 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kataeb (Post 194208)
ppl u should be able to distinguish between the truth and the line your following! these are 2 different things, and i think this is exactly what the lebanese ppl need be4 we have a gd political ruling system! samy gmayel is according to one of the best politician after his bro (RIP). that is y everybody is scared of him, look @ wat he is doing on the christian grounds right now! your ally franjiyeh invited him off 2 dinner and he himself said that sami is a gd politician! and look at wi2am wahab he visit sheikh ameen suddenly and talks oppitimisticly about opening new pages! u all tlaking abt sami and i doubt that anyone of u knows him:P i miyt not like other political standards but i am wise enough to admit that thye contain some pretty gd politicians!:)

if hes a gmayel , then he sux .
and dont forget , 3am "yowrat" za3me.

xcoder 07-25-2009 08:18 AM

First of all, i believe Sami is way better than his brother, at least he tries to make connections with others. But that certainly doesn't make him a good politician especially that his position was inherited from his family and adopted those fascist ideas of "naw3iyeh" w "kammiyeh"...

El-Meghwar 07-25-2009 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Kataeb (Post 194208)
ppl u should be able to distinguish between the truth and the line your following!these are 2 different things

True!
the truth is that "Sami" inherited his parliamentary seat from his brother, if he wasn't the son of "Amine Gemayel" ma ken 7ada seme3 fi.

But the line we are following is built on efficiency and equality away from feudalism and political inheritance, and sectarianism.
Being the son of "Amine Gemayel" doesn't make him a great politician.


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that is y everybody is scared of him
What do you mean by everybody ?Who are those everybody ? and how did u find that they are scared of him ?

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look @ wat he is doing on the christian grounds right now!
What is he doing ?

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your ally franjiyeh invited him off 2 dinner and he himself said that sami is a gd politician!
You said it, he is our ally, and our our ally doesn't necessary express our own point of view.

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and look at wi2am wahab he visit sheikh ameen suddenly and talks oppitimisticly about opening new pages!
So now "Wiam Wahhab" is not anymore a Syrian puppet, and opening a new page with him is a pride right now?
Don't get me wrong, i am happy for you... But doesn't your old statements and attacks against "Wahhab" ring a bell for you??
This only indicates one thing: your leader doesn't respect you, you are just sheep who follow him and believe whatever he says.


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u all tlaking abt sami and i doubt that anyone of u knows him:P
And how are we supposed to know him beside reading and hearing his sectarian speeches?? that's enough for me to know him.

KeXasthur 07-25-2009 10:08 AM

Even though I hate feudalism to the guts, it would be very wrong to dismiss Samy as having potential just because he is part of a feudal family, especially in a country like Lebanon.

To me , I hated him in the elections, he was low, he was lying and he was making plays on TV just to get people to vote him. However, I would rather have all 14 March leaders like Samy rather than Walid Jumblat simply because Samy has some keen spirit and no matter what, he is more straight in what he wants than walid jumblat. With leaders like Walid Jumblat, we will eaither go in another war or which is more probable live in more sh*t for the next 20 years procrastinating every thing that would benefit lebanon and keep maneuvering and living in forms of parties against parties. With people like Sami ,however, we either face another war or have a more "honorable" political opponent which brings more lifeliness to the scene. For example,I hate to say it but walid jumblat would have never disarmed hizbulla, he was always maneuvering. Sami on the other hand, wants to do that. If it was back to me I would rather have Samy as a political opponent even if it means he would reach his goal and disarm hizbulla, because sincerely I'm tired and sick of politicians like Jumblat.

All that ofcourse doesn't mean I like him, In fact I despised him during the elections and I still despise a lot of what he does now, it's just that I feel better seeing him do the steps he is doing.

Kataeb 07-25-2009 02:58 PM

True!
the truth is that "Sami" inherited his parliamentary seat from his brother, if he wasn't the son of "Amine Gemayel" ma ken 7ada seme3 fi.

But the line we are following is built on efficiency and equality away from feudalism and political inheritance, and sectarianism.
Being the son of "Amine Gemayel" doesn't make him a great politician.

you r totally riyt, but this is lebanon and it has nothing to do with the fact that he is a gd politician! some are from gr8 political families yet they aren't that gd! but he is gd....how many times do u c a guy disagreeing with his dad! he was against wat his dad said abt armenians on the elections 2 years ago! he expressed this point of view on OTV!
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that is y everybody is scared of him
What do you mean by everybody ?Who are those everybody ? and how did u find that they are scared of him ?

i found out from the recent threats which he got!:)
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look @ wat he is doing on the christian grounds right now!
What is he doing ?

if u cant c and admit wat he is doing, then u should watch some news soon:P he is trying 2 reunite christians... he is opening closed doors that have been so long closed! who would have imagined jmayel would meet franjiyeh and wi2am visits and ja3ja3 soon meeting franjiyeh! still dont believe he is doing?
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your ally franjiyeh invited him off 2 dinner and he himself said that sami is a gd politician!
You said it, he is our ally, and our our ally doesn't necessary express our own point of view.

perfectly said...i cant add anymor!
Quote:
and look at wi2am wahab he visit sheikh ameen suddenly and talks oppitimisticly about opening new pages!
So now "Wiam Wahhab" is not anymore a Syrian puppet, and opening a new page with him is a pride right now?
Don't get me wrong, i am happy for you... But doesn't your old statements and attacks against "Wahhab" ring a bell for you??
This only indicates one thing: your leader doesn't respect you, you are just sheep who follow him and believe whatever he says.


sheep:P?! man look at the different point of views available if u c us as sheep then good!
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u all tlaking abt sami and i doubt that anyone of u knows him:P
And how are we supposed to know him beside reading and hearing his sectarian speeches?? that's enough for me to know him.

gd 4 u!if all that and u cant agree that he is gd, then ull never admit, with all my respect!:)

quoting kesathur:
it would be very wrong to dismiss Samy as having potential just because he is part of a feudal family

SysTaMatIcS 07-25-2009 05:14 PM

wasnt for the ssnp candidate facing him , ma ken tele3lo 5ibiz. FPM , shouldv chosen an orthodox ssnp , that way , murr would have gotten it , nd gmayel lost


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