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Sheriff Ice 04-15-2010 07:04 AM

Capitalism Vs Communism Vs Socialism
 
Capitalism:

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Capitalism is an economic system where capital and land, the non-labor factors of production (also known as the means of production), are privately owned; labor, goods and resources are traded in markets; and profit, is distributed to the owners invested in technologies and industries. The pervasiveness of wage labor is another important feature of capitalism, which depends on non-labor income derived from property not intended for the owner's personal use. Also see rise of financial capitalism, which controls all other forms of capitalism.
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Socialism:


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Socialism refers to the various theories of economic organization which advocate either public or direct worker ownership and administration of the means of production and allocation of resources.A more comprehensive definition of socialism is an economic system that directly maximizes use-values as opposed to exchange-values and has transcended commodity production and wage labor, along with a corresponding set of social and economic relations, including the organization of economic institutions and method of resource allocation; often implying a method of compensation based on individual merit, the amount of labor expended or individual contribution.
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Communism:


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Communism is a social structure in which classes are abolished and property is commonly controlled, as well as a political philosophy and social movement that advocates and aims to create such a society.
Karl Marx posited that communism would be the final stage in society, which would be achieved through a proletarian revolution and only possible after a socialist stage develops the productive forces, leading to a superabundance of goods and services.
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Which System do u think is the right system that keeps the human thinking and human evolution on the right track?

Which system is you point of view is the best and why?

Which system do u think suites Lebanon better in the current state?

Adam 04-15-2010 10:34 AM

Capitalism/Socialism

Have to get to uni, can't explain why right now :p

RUSSIAN 04-15-2010 12:16 PM

Communism........

Sheriff Ice 04-15-2010 01:40 PM

Please Explain Your Opinion when answering

mr_j 04-16-2010 12:20 AM

everyone of these has a big fat hole in it, the world is not perfect, and thus any system in it will not be perfect. I go with capitalism because I love money :p though I do not think it is fair that some people can inherit millions and billions of dollars without having to lift a finger, while others work 20 hours a day in a shoe factory, and in the end of the month, they don't get enough money to buy the shoe that they have been making

moqawem 04-16-2010 12:24 AM

سلام ،
ما ممكن ولا نظام من هالانظمة ينجح لوحده ،
انا اؤيد مزيج من الانظمة الثلاثة تحت مظلة الاسلام ،
شخصيا اسميها "الاشتراكية الاسلامية"،
وهيي اللي نفذها النبي يوسف عليه السلام في مصر
تؤمن عدالة اجتماعية وتضمن الحقوق الفردية وحقوق الدولة الحاكمة ،
بما يستوجب دفع الخمس والزكاة والتوزيع على الفقراء وتوزيع الاراضي والمشاركة في الانتاج.

Sheriff Ice 04-16-2010 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by moqawem (Post 212820)
سلام ،
ما ممكن ولا نظام من هالانظمة ينجح لوحده ،
انا اؤيد مزيج من الانظمة الثلاثة تحت مظلة الاسلام ،
شخصيا اسميها "الاشتراكية الاسلامية"،
وهيي اللي نفذها النبي يوسف عليه السلام في مصر
تؤمن عدالة اجتماعية وتضمن الحقوق الفردية وحقوق الدولة الحاكمة ،
بما يستوجب دفع الخمس والزكاة والتوزيع على الفقراء وتوزيع الاراضي والمشاركة في الانتاج.

When You Talk About Social Justice you are simply motivating ppl not to work, in the socialist system, the percentage of non working ppl is very high compared to Capitalist system, look at France and USA and see the difference.
Even though the capitalism is greedy but it a great motivator for oneself to keep innovating and never rely on the government to get a pay check by the end of the month.

moqawem 04-16-2010 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by sheriff ice (Post 212823)
when you talk about social justice you are simply motivating ppl not to work, in the socialist system, the percentage of non working ppl is very high compared to capitalist system, look at france and usa and see the difference.
Even though the capitalism is greedy but it a great motivator for oneself to keep innovating and never rely on the government to get a pay check by the end of the month.


سلام ،
معك حق وحكيك صحيح ، اذا انا كنت عم احكي عالاشتراكية بشكلها المعروف الاساسي، الاشتراكية اللي تم تعريفها بأول مشاركة بالموضوع ،لكنني تحدثت عن نوع مختلف جدا من الاشتراكية الممزوجة بالرأسمالية والاسلام، هالنوع كان يؤمن به او بشيء منه..مثلا ذو الفقار علي بوتو ابوها للشهيدة بي نظير بوتو

والحديث يطول عن هالامر وبأول فرصة بكتب شي مختصر بشرح فيه هالنظرية.


Adam 04-18-2010 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Ice (Post 212823)
When You Talk About Social Justice you are simply motivating ppl not to work, in the socialist system, the percentage of non working ppl is very high compared to Capitalist system, look at France and USA and see the difference.

True, but the countries with the best living conditions are a mix between capitalism and socialism. Business should have the opportunity to grow and expand but not without a government watching it.

In the same way, the government should be aloud to run everything without someone watching it.

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Ice (Post 212823)
Even though the capitalism is greedy but it a great motivator for oneself to keep innovating and never rely on the government to get a pay check by the end of the month.

Highly successful capitalism lead to a country similar to the US, where corporations and money are the important thing and people have to fight for the right not to get screwed every day.
Look at the health reform that got passed recently, corporations had so much control over the media and the government that a law that would guarantee the people to get what they paid for was being dismissed by both the people themselves and their government.

I'm speaking mainly about the US because it's pure capitalism. And the reason why life is so crappy there is that you are not an individual, you are just another worker, and in contrast to communism where the worker works for the good of the nation, in the US the worker works to stomp on heads and get to the top.

Adam 04-18-2010 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 212974)
In the same way, the government should be aloud to run everything without someone watching it.

In the same way, the government shouldn't be allowed to run everything without someone watching it


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