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Source please?

Anyway let's see how things will end up, of course GMA's move is a good one, at least it is better than nothing.
The current FPM is not the FPM i used to know or the FPM i used to support, i supported a secular movement not a Christian one, a movement where its members are educated people not a bunch of kids wearing a cross ba3d na2es yoshtbou...

But i don't understand what's wrong with Abou Jamra and Co. or maybe this statement is a fake one... they were the first to call for reform inside FPM, so why are they opposing this step right now?

I hope that GMA's step will be followed by other practical steps that can bring FPM back to the right track.

how can u explain please?

is this the problem?? Christian FPM??

he preferred them over the educated ones.
and especially the close ppl to him.
relatives speaking.

They are against reforming in such a way...
Calling heads to put their resignation under the control OF GMA so if he needed to change one,doesnt cause a scene and show that someone is against that...
as long as he is in command the tayyar is doomed

1. la ana wla ent mna3ref chou 3am bi fakker fi el General, mech nater wa7ad metlak wla metleh yejo ynazro 3leh, his vision plans ahead for centuries and centuries ahead, that's why I respect him, he has the foresight to plan for the best. w if u are a christian, u'll be thanking him and kissing his a** in the future, as soon as u realize it though, w knowing u guys (li doddo) u'll probably say YOU did the good and flush GMA's efforts in the toilet metel 3adetkon

2. eza asdak he preferred Gebran over others MET3ALMIN, then go check ur facts, el zalameh Engineer mech cha2fet Brevet ma3o yeha w 3emlino neyeb

3. law ma el General ma ken fi Tayyar so I doubt that as long as he's in charge we're doomed, w ---> re-read point number 1

4. I dnt mind el Tayyar being a Christian party, badna a Christian leader who r we kidding el Sunnas 3endon el 7ariri wel Chi3a SHN wl Drouz Jomblat, ba2a lets face facts ba2a hech 3eychin bi balad wa7edna w ndal nokhsar, why not have him as a Christian leader!

leich is he God or something i can not Nazer 3leih??

How do u know this? u just said u dont know what he is thinking of ??
opposite of what u just wrote..

Future? I want present ! i dont care about future right now ..
and i dont kiss asses.. Whatever he will do..
in Fact i dont kiss asses for everything he does, unlike others.

If you enter a church that doesnt mean u r a Christian and it applies for all.


And what have he accomplished so far ( tayyar and not GMA)
there is a difference between the two.

Why do u need a leader??
What is a leader?
and how you evaluate a leader??
What are the benefits of such a leader your talking about?


P.S: dont write in arabic latin font...hala2 bi yejo el darak 3leik...

This reply is for both Iblise and Confucius

Everyone have the complete right in expressing his opinion, even GMA, he's a human being like all of us, and as his supporters/or political opponents we have the right to ask questions and express our own opinion.

So with all my respect to you, GMA doesn't work men rasso... he has supporters and people who trusted him since 1988, and when those supporters need a certain explanation he should listen to them.

I don't know why everyone is making a big story out of Gebran Bassil.
Bassil is one of the best ministers in Lebanon's history, his achievements and work are the best proof for this. And being GMA's relative is not his fault nor a sin, he's more than competent in his positions and he's doing a very well job that many people who aren't relatives of GMA can do it.
Same things apply in Alain Aoun's case... ya khayye mse2be enno GMA's relatives are competent enough, they are not appointed because they are his relatives but because they have the competence and they proved it!!
I(and many other FPMers) actually mind!!
Because FPM is not a Christian party, na7na ma mne2bal nenzal la hal moustawa...
Even in FPM charter we are a secular party, and since the born of FPM in 1988 we had supporters from all over Lebanon.
Now there is a certain situation in Lebanon (and that's because of the retarded political system) where political positions are distributed based on religious views(which is actually the sickest, funniest and most retarded invention in the world)... And se2abet inno FPM got the highest number of Christian MPs.. so in this retarded political system FPM is the main representative of "Christians".
This doesn't mean that we are a Christian party. we have a big number of supporters among every corner in this 10452 KM2.

General Aoun is a Lebanese leader who represent every free Lebanese CITIZEN whatever was the way he use to pray!!!
We will never accept humiliating our sacrifices in the past 20 years w n7ajjema la tsir ma7soura b kam wa7ad bissalleh bel knisseh...

We have sectarian leaders in every sect. what we need is a Lebanese leader for all Lebanon, and this man is General Aoun.

not that he's God, just that he has a very good planning strategy that la ent wla ana fina mne2cha3a, u can criticize him for the stuff he's doing now but never have they hurt us so badly - Lebanon wise - that it made a permanent damage unlike the debt jame3etkon mrakbina 3a daherna!
his good doings are way better than the small mistakes he commits bas u have the powers to EXAGERATE small silly mistakes to make them seem so apocalyptic, 3a chwe b7ess lezem enzal 3a chi malja2 at times (like 2009 elections on HA and wileyet el fakih *facepalm*)

cz I've seen what his past actions have resulted in! mech bye7keh 3al fadeh w when he has no more talks of threats coming our way as 7ejaj la yerba7 el elections (read ur post on North Updates thread) bi battel yetla3 menno chi mcheri3 inme2iyyeh!

that's just silly, ur future is more important than the present, just stop and think for a second, what do u prefer? a better future or a better present? (1 year w ba3den ?)

It was a metaphor...

are u high dude? chou khass zalameh met3allam bi Christians and Churches??

indeed there is, bas he's a huge factor bl Tayyar, as for what has he accomplished..eza elna nothing, it's still better than taking 40 billions :)

weed's taking its effect again..ana b2oul bala leader byemcheh el 7al, kel wa7ad yzet kelmeh w di3 el taseh w 2ARARAT LA NEKHOD! A leader IS needed in any party man :Tawa: and if ppl don't like him anymore, they can go join another party or start one!

el darak ze3ran and eat alot of frerij, Mods aren't like that on Vcoderz ba2a respect them plz :ang:

yeah and we saw what he did to those!
Abou Gamra and Fayez karam...


Achievements?
when he was telecom minister??

Ok So the 70% GMA represents and from all the loyal ppl he has around, alah khala2o w kassar el 2abel?(sorry i dont know what that is in English)


I wasnt talking about ministers only..
you can see who are his consultants and talking the role of handling everything..
Also News Manager in OTV who had a fight with Charbel Khalil..
And Yes it is turning into Family business !



Aoun is a Leader for his followers.. Such as ur self..
I dont have a leader,and require no Leader,especially if it was GMA.


Who said that?? Inou U really dream about that?
Inou Seriously you want GMA like President for example???
Jesus

If i can criticize him now for what i think is wrong, how can i trust him for the future and the country's sake??
We don't want to go into the topic jame3itkon mrakbeen el dein..
and i dont have Jame3a..

lets start with the Good things he is doing..
Count them please!

a WAR? was one of them?
he does talk 3al fadi..
i am against going on public just to say that Sanyoura was robbing us!
or We dont need ta2ef agreement..

a better present prepares for better future...
i dont go throwing that i will do something u will find important after 30 years..
inou Doh

ma kil meen feit 3a jem3a sar fehmein..

u did not answer my question... what did tayyar accomplished from 2005 till now?
and now if we opened the discussion of what GMA took with him in 1990 ,would it be bullshit? aw hawlik Meil 7aleil...
Dude if you dont believe that all the politicians in lebanon have taken something (money) or caused something, Then you really need to read history from a different point of View.

eh akid bala leader bi yemchi el 7al..
Tfadal 7adertak w inzal 3al cheri3, w 2oulo la bassil inou ma rakhasit el benzin..
w inou 7a tdalak bil cheri3 la trakhes el benzin..
Do u need a leader to tell u how to do that?
Nzal 7adertak w 2elo la Saad el hariri badi cheel el TVA!
badak leader to do so??
Bass the problem is that ur leader today is not telling u anything, that is why u r sitting..
Kil 3emrak badak 7ada yedefshak 3a chi , min wa2ta ken GMA manfi...
ken yetla3 min france w y2elkon nzalo 3al cheri3 w tzaharo dod souria..
tenzalo 7adretkon (as tayyar ppl) teklo badan atel w tetla3o..
and it keeps going for ever..
You dont need a leader, michen yjeblak moudir amen el 3am w ya3ti la massi7i..
masi7i , muslim, derzi eish ma ken chou fer2it ma3ak??