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SysTaMatIcS 08-01-2007 04:11 PM

Tal el Zaatar
 
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Originally Posted by xcoder (Post 89579)
Go check what the "innocent" of tal el zaatar did to Lebanese.
We're not talking about sabra and shatila here. tal el zaatar was full of palestinian terrorists. However this thread is not made for it feel free to open another thread about this subject.

wasnt the camp fully extriminated??!! the exact way as sabra and chatila! i say let ameen gmayel be happy and proud with the victory he made there!

xcoder 08-01-2007 04:28 PM

Re: tel el zaatar
 
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Originally Posted by systamatics (Post 89584)
wasnt the camp fully extriminated??!! the exact way as sabra and chatila! i say let ameen gmayel be happy and proud with the victory he made there!

First it's not amin gemayel who entered the camp it's the Noumour led by martyr dany chamoun.
Just answer this:
-Why you never point about the massacres Palestinians did to Lebanese.
-What do you know about tal el zaatar.

Mandy 08-01-2007 05:09 PM

Re: tel el zaatar
 
قدامى نمور الأحرار ترد على كلام الرئيس أمين الجميل بموضوع تل الزعتر31 تموز 2007 ردا على كلام الرئيس أمين الجميل بموضوع تل الزعتر وتبيانا للحقيقة نورد الوقائع التالية:

أولا معركة تل الزعتر كان هدفها منع إقامة دولة فلسطينية خطط لها بالتعاون مع الكثير من الذين يتباكون اليوم على الجيش في معركة نهر البارد وكأن التاريخ يعيد نفسه.

ثانيا تم الإعداد للمعركة بقرار من الرئيس كميل شمعون وبقيادة داني شمعون وبالتحالف مع التنظيم وحراس الأرز والشبيبة اللبنانية.

ثالثا في اليوم الأول للمعركة وبينما كانت الطلائع الأولى للهجوم تتوجه من منطقة المتن بإتجاه تل الزعتر فوجئت بحاجز مسلح أمام بيت الكتائب في المنصورية يحمل قرارا خطيا من رئيس إقليم المتن الشمالي آنذاك أمين الجميل يمنع مرور قوافل المقاتلين الى تل الزعتر حيث كانت خلالها المدفعية التي تغطي الهجوم بقيادة "رعد" تعمل على تسهيل دخول المخيم حسب الخطة الموضوعة. إلا أن ما حصل من تأخير بسبب هذا الحاجز ولمدة ساعتين أفقد عنصر المفاجأة وفاعلية القصف المدفعي مما تسبب بسقوط عشرات الشهداء في اليوم الأول.

J()e 08-01-2007 05:21 PM

Re: tel el zaatar
 
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First it's not amin gemayel who entered the camp it's the Noumour led by martyr dany chamoun.
you are right bass u forgot the kateyib they participated and there is the lebanese army who had a major role to do in destroying tall el za3tar!

xcoder 08-01-2007 05:25 PM

Re: tel el zaatar
 
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Originally Posted by lf rabieh (Post 89601)
you are right bass u forgot the kateyib they participated and there is the lebanese army who had a major role to do in destroying tall el za3tar!

Kateeb were miniority no one excluded them.
GMA putted the plan and the army participated in finishing the terrorists.

SysTaMatIcS 08-01-2007 05:26 PM

Re: tel el zaatar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xcoder (Post 89593)
First it's not amin gemayel who entered the camp it's the Noumour led by martyr dany chamoun.
Just answer this:
-Why you never point about the massacres Palestinians did to Lebanese.
-What do you know about tal el zaatar.

we were talkin abt who invaded tel zatar , talkin abt the massacares the palasteneans did is out of topic , i never said they were good , n i dont know much abt tel zatar , all i know that it was extrimanated , all people died in there , all children all women , all innocent people ... it aint somethin to be proud of!

xcoder 08-01-2007 05:31 PM

Re: tel el zaatar
 
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Originally Posted by systamatics (Post 89604)
we were talkin abt who invaded tel zatar , talkin abt the massacares the palasteneans did is out of topic , i never said they were good , n i dont know much abt tel zatar , all i know that it was extrimanated , all people died in there , all children all women , all innocent people ... it aint somethin to be proud of!

You better mention the Lebanese civilians who were massacred on the hands of those terrorists, let's go and tell fate7 al islam please take off your children and women so we can finish you easily. GET REAL we had a terrorist militia killing Lebanese and invading the Lebanese areas and had Lebanon as a replace of their country.
Tal el zaatar was mostly militias and what happened was necessary for Lebanon existence unlike sabra and shatila.

SysTaMatIcS 08-01-2007 05:41 PM

Re: tel el zaatar
 
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Originally Posted by xcoder (Post 89606)
You better mention the Lebanese civilians who were massacred on the hands of those terrorists, let's go and tell fate7 al islam please take off your children and women so we can finish you easily. GET REAL we had a terrorist militia killing Lebanese and invading the Lebanese areas and had Lebanon as a replace of their country.
Tal el zaatar was mostly militias and what happened was necessary for Lebanon existence unlike sabra and shatila.

the army asked them to leave they ddnt , in t.zaatar , they attacked them , and killed them , and some of them are proud of killing innocent palastenians,such as the the cedars guards , they officialy say that they sniped women , and children in that camp :S , theyr sick!

Sheriff Ice 08-01-2007 06:52 PM

Re: tel el zaatar
 
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Originally Posted by systamatics (Post 89612)
the army asked them to leave they ddnt , in t.zaatar , they attacked them , and killed them , and some of them are proud of killing innocent palastenians,such as the the cedars guards , they officialy say that they sniped women , and children in that camp :S , theyr sick!

man maybe you are right but the palestinian existence at that time was a danger on the lebanese existence, the palestinians were planning to occupie our country at that time yasser arafat said:"tarik l kodos tamour b jounieh" i think it was a resistence the same as for HA fight the israel ppl, man the palestinians cames as our borther w stuff like that but they were preparing to rule our country to build their new country on ours , akid we have the right to fight them, like now we are fightin "fate7 l islam" no one is over the lebanese existence,
we fighted the syrians the israelies the palestinians and now fateh l islam.

SysTaMatIcS 08-01-2007 10:08 PM

Re: tel el zaatar
 
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Originally Posted by icemaker (Post 89627)
man maybe you are right but the palestinian existence at that time was a danger on the lebanese existence, the palestinians were planning to occupie our country at that time yasser arafat said:"tarik l kodos tamour b jounieh" i think it was a resistence the same as for HA fight the israel ppl, man the palestinians cames as our borther w stuff like that but they were preparing to rule our country to build their new country on ours , akid we have the right to fight them, like now we are fightin "fate7 l islam" no one is over the lebanese existence,
we fighted the syrians the israelies the palestinians and now fateh l islam.

theres a difference between civilians and militiant members, like if the lf in the civil war , took over lets say rabieh , and theyr a danger on the rest of lebanon , would u kill all the ones inside rabieh cuz of them!!! that aint logic! they were trapped in a small camp , there was absolutely NO reason to kill em all!!


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