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Old 04-29-2008   #4
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Default Re: Your view on the Syrian presence/occupation era.

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Originally Posted by Mandy View Post
Mr Athegan, if FPM and HA have the same opinions and political views then what's the utility of they MOU let's unite fared marra and form 1 political party only
I dnt wanna discuss HA's view of the Syrian presence in leb cz it's up to them to explain it I only talk about MY OWN beliefs and views and as I said before, I blame every "Lebanese" that used to visit Anjar and had a direct relation with the Syrian moukhabarat and i guess everyone knows very well who they are.


Everything in black is irrelevant...As for the part in red, if you think HA could operate the way they did while the Syrian intelligence was present at large in Lebanon without a high level of cooperation between the two, I'd like to correct you cuz that is impossible...


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Originally Posted by Sweets_HsNŽ View Post
1st of All, for some who dont know History, When the Syrian Army Came to Beirut, they attacked HA members, and my uncle is a martyr at that era, he wasn't fighting, he was group praying with Some 20-30 HA members in Some1's House, where The Syrian Army Killed Them All by Shooting them, that was called Fat7allah Mascare in Basta - Beirut, but this insidence is not wat my opinion is based on

That continued with the Syrian-Iranian tensions and eventually turned into the Amal (Syria Backed)-HA (Iran Backed) war....Another episode of the same story of Lebanese people being toys for regional powers...
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Originally Posted by Sweets_HsNŽ View Post
to continue, Syrian Presence used to cover the Stealing and all da bad things done @ that era

Syrian Presence used to prevent me as a Shiite from Contacting and Knowing more My Christian Brother

Syrian Presence used to show me that this Christian Brother wants Israel as an Ally, so that ppl hate Christians and their Qadeye

im not gonna talk about the attacks, te3zeeb, 5atef, mo5abarat & all those, that used to happen also in my HA society


There is a lot more that even FPMers and 14 marchers don't mention we agree here 3ala gher 3ade

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Originally Posted by Sweets_HsNŽ View Post
but, for those who say y we didnt talk against them, we knew that their presence was a duty we r payin in order to keep the support for the resistance in the South.
after all, i wished they didnt come from the begining, though they stopped the civil war by some how
sometimes i wished they withdrew from Lebanon In year 2000, after the liberation


For the most interesting part Meghwar why didn't you reply to this Come on guys
Point 1: Syrians ended the civil war...They did NOT. At least not alone. When you say Syrians ended the civil war it makes them sound as if they were the only reason there was a civil war. The civil war ended after many of the reasons, regional and Lebanese, disappeared or changed and after an American-Syrian deal hosted by Saudi Arabia with the use of Iran as a scarecrow that day and many other factors I don't wanna get into. I hope someone more knowledgable in the civil war will pick up from here...
Point 2: 1990- 2000...Clearly Mr. El-Meghwar for all HAers, they will have the same answer here that the Syrian Presence was necessary for HA operations. I will have to agree with them here, not on their operations or anything else, just on the fact that the created syrian situation in Lebanon helped HA a lot and gave them a big margin to accomplish what they did on many levels...So will u now say the Syrian occupation/presence was necessary for LEBANON?
Point 3: 2000-2005 Sweets_HsN, when you are the biggest most well financed most organized party in a country you don't wish you ACT...ACT...ACT...you do something not wish before sleeping. I am still waiting for some kinda argument from any HAer to present about the subject of Syrian Occupation from 2000-2005...If no such argument is presented, sorry El-Meghwar, you are not an ally right now with someone u used to "differ" with; you are an ally with an accomplice and traitor with an occupying country...Again waiting for a good argument to change my view on this...
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Originally Posted by Sweets_HsNŽ View Post
as for the direct Question By U Meghwar, YES it was an occupation by a Neighbor Arabic Country...that was bad, and 4 SURE it wont return, coz if it does, im gonna hold a Rifle & Bazzoka to Fight them.
Unless they convince you something vague like "If we don't come into your country, Israel will"
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Originally Posted by Sweets_HsNŽ View Post
PS: im glad ive never heard that SHN visited Anjar to meet Rustom, i used to remember Rustom Coming to Haret Hreik & Meet SHN.. but im MORE GLAD that we r allies with GMA who never Met him mn l Assas

My answer to point 3 is worse than going to Anjar. HA where part of the team that made Anjar possible for at least 2000-2005....

So El-Meghwar and FPMers, do you agree with HsN's post since you didn't reply?

P.S. I preferred to restrict the debate to 2000-2005 since there is where the controversy seems to be clearer..it does exist in the previous era of Syrian occupation though...
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