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Old 07-03-2009   #16
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Human laws never have or will provide justice, order or peace. I believe all people deep down are hypocrites (include myself), thats why society will never be a utopia.
and the religious laws will make it all better?
laws restrict free will, when you make a death penalty for murder, and murder stops happening, it is because everytime a person thinks about killing another,he will remember that this will lead to his execution, and therefore he won't do it, for man to truly be able to be free, laws should be as strict and as few as possible

religion is adding more laws

Lying is definitely the direct or indirect cause of every war that has ever been fought in human history. Not to mention that it's one of the main sources of corruption.
Money is also one of the main sources of corruption.

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I don't believe religion is against things like sex and money, but that it warns us from them. I've known guys who turned their lives upside down because of girl they liked and others who have gone from being decent people to thieves because of money.
I don' know which religion you follow, personnaly I was raised christian, jesus said "انّه لاسهل ادخال جمل في ثقب ابرة على ان يدخل ثري ملكوت السماء" and to answer this
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you regard God as a normal human being bound by emotions that we feel. Hate, trust, respect, happiness etc. are emotions which God would be unbound of
it is written الله خلق الانسان على صورته ومثاله
furthermore, the idea of God and "the kingdome of heaven" is a projection of a real system of monarchy that exists among men, where there is a king and he has servants that must obey him

being respected is something that humans want, it is why we fought against slavery, religious freedome and freedom of discrimination
as a person that likes to be respected I refuse to be given a set of orders to follow as a slave

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My issue with how religion is practised is that it's seen as rules instead of guidelines. All those things you mention do bring plenty of harm to society.
Sex can get people to do a lot of stupid things.
Lying is definitely the direct or indirect cause of every war that has ever been fought in human history. Not to mention that it's one of the main sources of corruption.
Money is also one of the main sources of corruption.
I accept religion's opinion, but I wish they were opinions, they are laws

and what you are saying here is like "many people die of car accidents each year, lets ban driving"

when someone gets drunk and shoots someone, catch him and punish him for murder, when someone lies and it might lead to a war, punish people for the war
bas mich because there is a 1% chance that it might laken we ban it completly

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I believe the intent of religion is mostly to set up guidelines not rules. But the problem with religion is that it is people who will interpret these guidelines as they see fit and then pass them on as rules. That's why I believe that everybody should develop their own philosophy rather than learn it.
I believe that too

anyway I am not saying God does not exist, I am saying it's a 50/50 chance and that no religion so far has convinced me that this is how a God would behave
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