[KeXasthur]

Originally Posted by Kain

This is what i mean about ignorance. I directed you towards the thread in which you could have gotten the information you needed but you definitely didn't visit the thread. If you did you would see that the last post of the first page was by deAtheganized. In which he mentioned the hadith in english.
the word is "o3raf" mesh "a3ref"

You showed your blind ignorance and that you were over-eager to prove me wrong instead of proving you're right.

I promised I won't debate anymore so this will be my final contribution here.
You were too eager yourself that you missed the fact that this is still a piece of poetry. To want to be known by what is not created yet and by what is inferior by all means even if created is a case of deficiency which contradicts with the notion of Omnipotence and Omniscience. And ofcourse maintains the absurdity in creating a problem to solve it and opens up numerous other questions about the various purposes in the world.

No...because then you wouldn't be showing everyone how much of a non-conformist you are...baddak tesbot 7alak enno enta yaba fahmen w 2ossa tlo3et ma bta3rif A men B...as Edgard so graciously explained

Thank you for assuming that no one who is a non-conformist can be right.
As stated, final contribution.