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Old 11-05-2009   #5
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Originally Posted by xcoder View Post
Of course it's involved and there's nothing to be ashamed of when your country is occupied. I don't know how this theory doesn't work for you but Hizbullah' does!

What he has done is really honorable at least comparing to the ones who didn't do anything or the ones who supported them like that stupid albert mansour, Jumblat, Berri...

GMA & FPM were the ONLY to stand against all kind of occupations even in mid 90s when the Syrian boot lick-ers were accusing us being pro-israelis we used to hold 425 slogans "Syria out", "Israel out".

We certainly don't need certificates from anyone not from the current known 14 march nor from the opposition since all of them were in the same basket.

Mafi shi esmo mid-patriotism, it's either you are against all kind of occupations or you aren't. FPM stand was and still clear.
I don't agree with lot of FPM changes but i can't also deny all those stands that none of the Lebanese parties dared to make for its own interest and not the country's.

They used to call us "Pro israelis" because were were standing against the Syrian occupation, and now they're calling us "Pro syrian" because we're calling for good relations with it + free our occupied land.

7tarna ya ar3a men wen badna nbousik
Do you really think, knowing me as much as you do through my posts, that HA would really make sense to me after what happened after the elections in Iran? We basically have armed followers of a brutal regime that like any dictatorship would kill, slaughter, rape, burn and blindly persecute to protect its existance...Not the existance of a country, but of a dictatorship residing in that country...

See I totally relate to Aoun's thing, be against everyone who occupies our country. Check out all my posts and you will see that in at least half of them I mention that not only he is a patriot but also the only patriot.

But he was supported by Saddam Hussien. To me this is a touchy subject because as many people like me in this forum who relate to the Iraqi recent history, we think that Saddam Hussien is worse than Israel. When I count the reasons why I hate all arabic leaders, the top reason is their support/silence when it comes to Saddam Hussien's atrocities.

What did Aoun know at the time more than anyone else did to judge that while Syria (btw, just so that you won't mistake me to something I am not...F*ck Syria...today, yesterday and tomorrow) had ambitions and a dirty agenda for Lebanon, Saddam didn't have any? Are you happy that the same person giving you weapons was at the same time destroying villages in his own country over the heads of its residents?

Aoun made a pact with the devil at the time, just like Bashir Gemayyel did. But yeah so did everyone else. Whereas I think they are all not worthy of my respect for what they did, you single out Aoun and say his pact with Saddam was different from Berri/Jumblat/7awi pact with Syria or Gemayyel pact with Israel...

And again, Aoun didn't have a solution at the time. No one did. We emerged from the war with the Atayef agreement which I agree sucked but it ended the civil war. With an occupation, bad agreements, stupid system...but it stopped all the death. Maybe that was a good start...if anyone wanted to follow up with the right steps. Aside from Aoun, no one did (we both agree here)..
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