[Axis-of-Evil]

Originally Posted by Adam

Anyone who believes that the US wants what's good for us is an idiot. Nobody is arguing with that.

Since you do, why give the US the advantage and the upper hand to tamper with Syria's and Lebanon's peace !?

Originally Posted by Adam

I wasn't looking for a discussion about peace with Israel, I just wanted Hassans reply, but I'm going to make a reply anyway:
1st - Islam does not forbid peace with Israel. Israel did not exists at the time of the prophet so there can't be anything about it specifically in the religion. The prophet had many treaties with the Jews.
Here is an excerpt from a treaty with the tribes of Medina which include Jewish tribes:
"The contracting parties are bound to help one another against any attack on Yathrib. If they are called to cease hostilities and to enter into peace, they shall be bound to do so in the interest of peace..."

1) True there's no state called israel in the first place !! but there's a people called the israeli people and that's what I am referring to and yes islam told you to fight the people of israel !! CLEARLY !! do some more research !!

2) a Treaty <= is not peace it is a merely temporary cease fire in our days. Besides what kind of peace are you seeking when the israelis asked netanyahu today to issue a law that allows them ( not the army but the colonists ) to shoot and kill every Palestinian that throws a small rock at them. To return to our topic, why did then the prophet fought them and kicked them out from ared al hijaz later on ?!

Originally Posted by Adam

2nd- Patriotic thinking usually comes from fear and so it's not intelligent. If we keep being at war then every couple of years we will get the crap pounded out of us.
If the war stops then we might be able to build a country that people want to live in.

that's a typical Lebanese thinking which doesn't define the meaning of patriotism, the Japanese people have nothing to fear, yet their patriotism and love for their land has no equal in the world !! while the Lebanese finds no problem sell everything that makes him Lebanese for a few dollars.
e.g. the famous saying " Lebnen El Akhdar " is no longer a reality why because ma khalayna wou la ba2ayna bi Lebnen laydal akhdar, even U.A.E has more trees than we do and the terraformed area in U.A.E doesn't even equal the space of Lebanon.

So patriotism my friend comes from how much you love your land, how much you are ready to pay in blood for it, how if one part of your people is under attack, you don't make fun of them and do a banquet for their killer !!

Some people in Lebanon are happy that Lebanon is at the top of Majless El Amen, while I looked at mikati in disgrace, what kind of minister is that that agrees to imposed more pressure on his people to pay for a shitty trial to kill his own people ? what kind of minister is that, that takes order from Jeffrey Feltman and Clinton !! Wleek Tfeh

You want more patriotism ?! What about the piece of news we just heard now on NewTV that Angola arrested 45 Lebanese and their families and they again SOB7AN ALLAH turned to be Shi3a and what is the excuse " Terrorism " <== these people have been residing their even before Lebanon took his independence, hala2 saro terrorist and one of them told NewTV he FRANKLY AND SURELY accuses 14 of March being behind this !!

After the Gulf, now it is Africa, I won't be surprised if another 7 ayar happened and I think this time, I might join in because I have been victim of the above situation, however it happened to me in Lebanon and 2 weeks before I spoke to one of my friends in UAE and he told me VISAs for the Shi3a are forbidden just because the are Shi3a !!

How about this !! you know, how I feel right now !! I wouldn't feel sorry if sa3doun dies with a bigger booomm, because what he and 14 march are doing is an attempt to murder people ..... Kate3 el Arzak min Kate3 el A3nak.

This is false peace and false democracy, look at Lybia now ... they are buying WATER !!! thousands died there by NATO's bombing, is anyone counting ?!