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Originally Posted by getryne

so how could i miss some conservation about SSNP....
well am an SSNP member proudly.... nd do u wanna know y i fought kata2ib party not since 1975, bt since 1930 nd 1940 till 2007?
so let's c our lebanese movements... kata2ib, 2ouwwet, fpm, marada, HA, amal, Mista2bal, ishtiraki.... in other words shi3a, sunna, Mwarne', druz... so these r secular movements not A7ZAB, the only 2 parties in lebanon r SSNP, nd Communists.
the only ones who hold a social-national-economical ideology 4 all lebanese nd even Non-lebanese people....
let's go back 2 our pt. ,can i know wats the relation between the french occupation of lebanon, in 1930-40 , nd the kata2ib party... of course i know this realtion: if kata2ib was defending siyede' , nd 7irreye' , nd iste2lel at that time, then it should have been a secret party not a well-known, well-armed party.. i should have seen pierre jmayyil moving from one jail 2 another, not a lebanese parliament member.... (same thing 4 riyad lsol7, bchara lkhouri, whal 2irta killa) while SSNP at that time was a secret party, nd his leader ANTOUN S3ADE' , in jail nd exile....
next pt, wat was kata2ib's relation with israel since 1948 (till these days probably), wat was the fact of that " CHRISTIAN MARONITE REBEL" lead by kata2ib, nd helped by israel, to have the maronite independent state which will be the friendly state for israel.....
am not gonna talk abt the 1975 period, because the israeli-kata2ib alliance was 3a dahr l sati7, so let's c which of the other movements dealt with israel: HA, AMAL, MORABITOUN, COMMUNISTS??? as an SSNP, i have a conflict with all other lebanese movements nd parties, a conflict of mabadi2, ideology, sucularism.... bt when israel is inside the game, it's no more a conflict, the word is for rifles only.... so this msg isn't only 4 kata2ib, bt 4 any other movement or party who think abt dealing or looking towards israel.... bachir jmayyil is an exmaple, SSNP say it face 2 face : WE killed bachir, w7ayyo 7abib lchartouni.... nd anyone who think abt dealing with our only enemy israel will follow bachir.... THE SIMPLEST FORMULA IN THE WHOLE WORLD

You just wrote a whole story my friend out subject.
He's telling you that a friend of him said that he's fighting kataeb because they're sectarian while SSNP allies are sectarian as well.
He's not inventing anything this is a fact, no need to be against anything we read hear or see, no one said SSNP is not secular no one said SSNP is bad no one said who are the SSNP, you replied to all the points non related to the subject "ibn_battouta" raised.

If you think that Bachir Gemayel the president of the Lebanese republic and Riad el Soleh the prime minister should be killed because they're traitors.
Then who are you to judge Lebanese representatives if you don't believe in Lebanon existence and see us with syria , palestine and blablabla as 1 nation.
What do you call supporting Syrians and Palestinians against Lebanese?
What should i call you? patriot?
Wake up my friend and face it, if bachir was wrong when dealt with israel it's because you were wrong by supporting syrians and palestinians to occupy our land and kill our people and relay your destiny with them while they don't give a damn about you or any other Lebanese.
Are you satisfied of the syrian occupation for the last 15 years?
Are you satisfied of what hte palestinians did in Lebanon and still doing in their camps?
I am not defending kataeb nor any other party sectarian party or secular.
You're seeing the fly in other's eye but you're not seeing the camel in your eye.
Israel, Syria, Palestine are all my enemies for a simple and clear reason, upon the time they occupied my land killed my people not because Israel is the only enemy and our blood is 7alel to all "sister and brother" countries.

Regards,