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Originally Posted by getryne
ok here's my answers, read well, every part alone....
INDEPENDENCE
JUST LOOK OUT 4 THIS INDEPENDENCE HISTORY, ND DONT FOLLOW THE "HISTORY BOOKS", THOSE LIES WHICH WE STUDY IN SKOOL, WHO R THE HEREOS OF THIS HISTORY: RIYAD LSOL7? BCHARA LKHOURI? SABRY 7MEDA, PIERRE JMAYYIL? HOW COME THEY WERE ALL OF THEM PATRIOTS WHILE FRENCH WERE STILL IN LEBANON, HOW COME THEY WERE PRESIDENTS, PMs, PARLIAMENT MEMBERS???? .....
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enough man.
should i even reply to this?.
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Originally Posted by getryne
OF COURSE SSNP FOUGHT 4 THE INDEPENDENCE OF LEBANON, AS A PART OF OUR SYRIAN NATION... ND FOUGHT 4 THE INDEPENDENCE OF SHAM AS A PART OF MY NATION, SAME 4 IRAQ, PALESTINE, JORDAN.... THAT'S Y U CAN FIND THE MARTYR "NORMA ABI 7ASSAN" WHO COMES FROM ZGHARTA FIGHTING IN THE SOUTH, OR "MAHMOUD KANA3A" WHO COMES FROM SYRIA FIGHTIN IN KIRYATSHMONA, OR " YI7YA SKAFF(IN ISRAELI PRISONS RIGHT NOW" WHO COMES FROM TRIPOLI FIGHTING IN PALESTINE".....
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how many share your sham and your nation issue?.
you forgot by the way the martyr Halabi who was raiding a supermarket in Sofar.
ssnp is not the only one to attract different nationalities for a cause.
Al Qaeda is the living example.
did you know how many lebanese joined Fath until 1975?.
the ones i know are georges and andre.
they did not need to be ssnp members to fight for what was considered at that time a rightful cause.
they did it out of belief, they were not shouting it outloud as ssnp does.
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Originally Posted by getryne
RELATIONS WITH ISRAEL
إيهود يعاري - صحافي إسرائيلي
بالتأكيد لا، كانت القاعدة، وأود التشديد على ذلك أن الاتصالات ليس على بالضرورة على أعلى المستويات بين الموارنة ومبعوثيهم على المستويات المنخفضة مع دوائر الموساد وأحياناً وزارة الدفاع ووزارة الخارجية، هذه الاتصالات كانت دائمة، كانت ظاهرة دائمة مستمرة، وعندما تُفتح سجلات وزارة الخارجية لأنني لا أعتقد أن سجلات الموساد ستفتح، سيرى العالم بأسره حقيقة هذه الاتصالات، في هذه الفترة كانت الاتصالات تتم في باريس وأول الاتصالات المتعلقة بالحرب الأهلية اللبنانية بدأت مباشرةً بعد اندلاع الحرب، في
أبريل/ نيسان عام 75 تدريجياً ازدادت كثافة الاتصالات وارتفع مستوى ممثلي الطرفين، إلى أن حصل في نهاية المطاف لقاء على
زورق صواريخ إسرائيلي بين اسحق رابين وكميل شمعون والشيخ بيير الجميل
NO COMMENTS.........
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what you are telling here has become a common information.
where are the 1930, 1940 and 1948 relations.
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Originally Posted by getryne
and how come ssnp were allied to the syrian forces in 1976 fighting the national movement parties and helping kataeb.
HEY HEY WATCH OUT THATS A BIG MISTAKE, IT SEEMS U DIDN'T WATCH "LEBANESE CIVIL WAR" PRETTY WELL, JUST CHECH IT AGAIN... WHEN SYRIAN FORCES ENTERED LEB, THEY HAD NO FIGHT WITH LEBANESE YAMIN, THE 1ST BATTLES WHICH STARTED WERE BETWEEN SYRIAN FORCES ND LEBANESE YASAR, "SYRIANS VS. COMMUNISTS" , "SYRIANS VS. PALESTINIANS" , " SYRIANS VS. ISHTIRAKI" , "SYRIANS VS. SSNP" ( THE BATTLES BETWEEN SYRIANS FORCES ND SSNP STARTED IN KOURA , ND R WELL-KNOWN AS KOURA BATTLES) , KAMAL JUNBLAT WAS THE 1ST VICTIM OF THE YASAR-SYRIAN FIGHT.......
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1976 the ssnp members were targeted in areas controled by "national movement parties".
have any idea why?.
is it because ssnp were the eyes and ears of syrian forces posted in Sofar at that time?.
as for koura battle.....what?....koura ssnp were opening on their own?.
as we all know there were 2 wings for the ssnp.
tell me which wing was that?.
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Originally Posted by getryne
when you fought you war against Tawheed islamic movement in tripoli,
was it ssnp choice or ssnp loyalty to syrian regime?.
was it based on the Tawheed islamic movement alliance with israel?.
U WANNA KNOW WAT HAPPENED IN THAT WAR, JUST CHECK OUT WAT HAPPENED IN TRIPOLI AT THAT TIME.... I'LL TELL U ANYWAYS.... TRIPOLI BECAME AN "IMARA ISLAMIYYA" LEADED BY TAW7ID... CHRISTIANS RAN AWAY FROM TRIPOLI OR KILLED ON THE ROADS.... TAW7ID COMMITED A WELL-KNOWN MASSCARE IN TRIPOLI(SPECIFICALY IN MINA) AGAINST THE COMMUNISTS(MAJZARIT LSHOUYOU3IYYI)...ALL PARTIES LEFT TRIPOLI EXCEPT ONE PARTY: SSNP( WE FOUGHT TAW7ID IN THEIR PLACES, ALL OVER TRIPOLI, WE WERE OVER-COUNTED, LESS ARMED, BT WE DEFENDED MARAKIZNA..... SYRIANS FORCES ENTERED TRIPOLI LATER ON, WITH ALL THE PARTIES BACK TO TRIPOLI: INCLUDING, COMMUNISTS, SSNP, NASIRI, ISHTIRAKI...
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New York Times........October 8, 1985.
Syrian troops moved through Tripoli today, disarming rival Moslem militiamen, and the focus of Lebanon's factional war shifted to a Shiite-Palestinian battle in Beirut's refugee quarters.
The camp fighting was a renewal of a five-week clash earlier this year in which hundreds of people were killed and thousands wounded.
An 800-member Syrian unit that moved into Tripoli on Sunday occupied the northern port city's central district and fanned out across other sectors to disengage the militias.
No violence was reported in the Syrian effort to end an intermittent two-year-old war for control of Lebanon's second-largest city between pro-Syrian leftists and militiamen of the fundamentalist group Islamic Unification, which the Palestine Liberation Organization supports.
So...
it is syria vs PLO.
and as usual........powered by ssnp. (and others).
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Originally Posted by getryne
CONCERNING MY IDEOLOGY: OF COURSE AM IN A CONFLICT WITH ALL LEBANESE ND NON-LEBANESE PARTIES ND MOVEMENTS( INCLUSING BA3TH) , THAT DOESN'T MEAN FIGHTIN THEM.... IF ALI KANSO, OR AS3AD 7ARDAN SHOW U A TYPICAL PRO-SYRIANS, THEN F*** THEM, I EVEN HATE THEM.... U EVER SEEN A PARTY MEMBER WHO HATES HIS LEADERSHIP, YEAH TRUST ME, IN SSNP IT HAPPENS.......
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i respect this.
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IF U THINK WE SOLD OUR IDEOLOGY 2 BACHAR L2ASAD, DO U THINK BACHAR L2ASAD ASKED US TO FIGHT ISRAELIS IN 2007 ( I MEAN THE SSNP, SSNP GROUPS WERE FIGHTIN SIDE BY SIDE WITH HIZBULLAH).... I BELEIVE WE HAVE MISTAKES... MAYBE SOMEWAT DEFENDING BACHAR L2ASAD REGIME, MORE THAN IT NEEDS.... BT IF U WANNA WAT SSNP IDEOLOGY DOES, THEN WAIT 4 A SYRIAN-ISRAELI WAR, OR A LEBANESE-ISRAELI WAR.... MAYBE U CAN C A NEW 7ABIB CHARTOUNI, OR NEW SANA2 M7AYDLI.....
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it is your right to fight israel.
good you were fighting with HA.
by the way...ssnp members in syria....are they allowed anywhere close to golan heights?.....i doubt.
A Lebanese israeli war......conducted by who?...Lebanese army or HA?.
if by Lebanese army......we should meet and many others on the front line.
as for habib chartouni issue,
did you know that basheer gemayel instructions saved him from certain death when he was cornered in chartoun in 1982?.
was he granted a laissez passer by Hobeika?.
destiny isn't it?.
So... do not mention his name next to Sanaa Mheidli.
as it is irrelevant.