Bashar el Assad brother in law arrested!

[Gilgamesh]

Originally Posted by SysTaMatIcS

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Oh , so that justifies their crimes cuz theyr democratically elected!!

Ofcourse not, your reply wasn't clear at all(the first one)...In my first I only criticized dictators...No one defended them at any point, but still they were the result of the will of their people not the oppressors of their ppl....

[SysTaMatIcS]

Originally Posted by athegan

Ofcourse not, your reply wasn't clear at all(the first one)...In my first I only criticized dictators...No one defended them at any point, but still they were the result of the will of their people not the oppressors of their ppl....

that makes them even worse , comin from the people , people expectin them to be good , but they turn out to be real economical and war criminals! while the dictators comes by the force !

[Gilgamesh]

Originally Posted by SysTaMatIcS

that makes them even worse , comin from the people , people expectin them to be good , but they turn out to be real economical and war criminals! while the dictators comes by the force !

Ppl don't expect their presidents to be "good", they only expect of them to improve the life of the average citizen...Thats it! as simple as it sounds, that is the duty of a government or a leader...Improvement might be through making it more secure, financially better or "happier" (which differs between cultures)....Remember that 29% of americans still think that W. was a great president (interestingly enough, 28% thought Jesus was coming back in 07 IN THE SAME POLL)... So since an American President is elected by the American People, what they define as "good" is what matters not what foreigners do....

Consider this scenario(hypothetical), a year from now:
1- The death toll among Iraqi Citizens is one million
2- The gallon of gas in the U.S drops from 3.50 $ suddenly to 1 $
3- W. jumps on the tv right away and says, "The only reason gas became this cheap and WILL STAY SO is because we have killed a million ppl in Iraq, otherwise this wouldnt have happened"

How many americans do you think, after that, will say that they are the Iraq war? How many do you think will even say killing one million Iraqis was immoral? I dunno your answer, but as most Americans find using the nuclear bombs was very "logical" and "understandable", and as many Lebanese find Sabra and Shatila "justifiable", as Israel finds Kana and similar massacres were "necessary" and a billion other similar examples, I think americans (and anyone in their position) would welcome the death of million (and millions too) of Iraqis for any financial personal gain.... Americans only became opposed to this war because it effected their economy in a negative way.Period. They don't care about the death toll of Iraqis and most of them wouldn't even care about the death toll among U.S. soldiers if the financial and economical outcome is positive...

Sorry for the long post...and thank you for reading if u reached here

[SysTaMatIcS]

and that is why im hopeless with this life , everythings so Wrong..., however im still sayin tht g.w bush and his brothers are worst than other dictators around the world , hel, even some dictators are good , like the brunay kingdome , all the people are in the rich class ...

[El-Meghwar]

I suggest correcting the thread's title..
this story is not official or even confirmed !

Originally Posted by athegan
Plausible Ken3an and now shawkat...w khaddem harab I love this I hope the whole system collapses and they find Bashar this time in a hole dirtier than the one they found Saddam in Up to the last dictator wherever he is, and everyone who relies on such a dictator, be it in Syria or anywhere in the world

LoL yes be Happy !! i just wanna see your faces when a Pro-Israeli regime controls Syria like the regimes controlling KSA and all the other Pro-Israeli arab regimes, then with Syria from the east and Israel from the south, and a ready 14 Gang to collaborate with them will be enough to smash Lebanon for the next 100 years.
I do not like the Syrian regime, but for Lebanon's interests i rather Bashar's current regime on a pro-Israeli regime in Syria... and don't tell me NO the syrians will elect their president and if they elected a pro-israeli president then it's the people's choice ... everyone knows that the what's called democracy is a big lie, at least in the arab countries where the USA pick its agents and set them on the presidential chair.

[Gilgamesh]

Originally Posted by El-Meghwar

I suggest correcting the thread's title..
this story is not official or even confirmed !


LoL yes be Happy !! i just wanna see your faces when a Pro-Israeli regime controls Syria like the regimes controlling KSA and all the other Pro-Israeli arab regimes, then with Syria from the east and Israel from the south, and a ready 14 Gang to collaborate with them will be enough to smash Lebanon for the next 100 years.

First I should mention that I will reply with ur own "logic" which is really gossip with no basis but its ok. First KSA is not a democracy, neither is any arabic country. May you ellaborate on how a "pro-israeli government" (Somehow Osood Hezeb Allah ana3ook enno ya l wa7ad dod Israel ya ma3a...The George Bush Logic, mastered this time by his enemies ) in Syria will be worse than one that uses Lebanon as its backyard and moves all the political conflicts with Israel to that backyard? And how will Lebanon be smashed? Define smashed...If after 15 years of Syrian occupation that left your country under a 40 billion dollar debt with no notable increase in wages, no advancement in the infrastructure and no basic security for its citizens and left you with all kinda armed militias and a certain Armed Proxy that can outlast your army in an internal conflict; if after all that, you still are willing to consider that Syrian regime is beneficial for Lebanon, Then my friend you are brainwashed and seeing things backward...You are willing to close your eyes to the truth and will never be subjective...

Originally Posted by El-Meghwar

I do not like the Syrian regime, but for Lebanon's interests i rather Bashar's current regime on a pro-Israeli regime in Syria... and don't tell me NO the syrians will elect their president and if they elected a pro-israeli president then it's the people's choice ... everyone knows that the what's called democracy is a big lie, at least in the arab countries where the USA pick its agents and set them on the presidential chair.

I answered the first part before the laughing face Democracy is not a big lie in general and if you are opposed to it, I am ready to hear other suggestions on how to run countries while maintaining the basic rights and freedoms of the ppl of these countries.. As for the U.S picking its agents be rabbak man, isn't that what we used to say when we were 10 Anyway, an election happened in Palestine and Hamas ( An Ideological twin with the Muslim Brothers in Egypt and elsewhere and who still don't identify a jewish state) won the elections. You can blame whoever you wanna blame to what happened next, but the matter of fact is that the elections where clean and the evidence is that Hamas won. In Egypt, with the most crooked election laws, the opposition scored 11% which is amazing compared to the 0.0001% in Saddam's and Bashar's elections. In Pakistan, where Bush's favorite friend Musharraf rules, Musharraf lost the elections to people who oppose the politics of the United States in the region. In Iraq, Moktada l Sadr won a whole bunch of seats and controlled more than one cabinet in all governments WHILE he was fighting Americans. If democracy suffers in the Middle East it is not because the U.S is tampering with out otherwise perfect elections, stop blaming everything and everyone for your mistakes. In Lebanon, aside from the elections that happened in almost purely maronite areas, there were no real elections. Either tazkeye or ma7dale....Did the U.S do that? Did it cause that? Do you really think it is natural for elections to be the way it is in Lebanon...They call it democrateyye tawefo2eyye, I call it tewzee3 karase. Everyone is to blame in this.