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Old 08-19-2007   #11
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Default Re: An eye 4 an eye, a tooth 4 a tooth

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man i dont think revenge is the right action, enno u r correcting the error with a bigger one, i dont think this is right
U may dont think this is right, but I need to ask u this question:
do u really can sleep @ night & know that this murderer is out somewhere, in prison or even outside, & still alive?... does ur conscience tells u: "I wish I had a 2nd chance to meet him, just one more chance..." ?... don't u?

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yeah maybe ur right but who are you to punish him?!?! only god have this authority
Who is he to commit these thingz? God has the authority to stop this from happening, isn't that right? So I think I have the authority to take back what's mine...


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Default Re: An eye 4 an eye, a tooth 4 a tooth

In some cases,it's fair to take revenge...after all,we're only humans,and emotions control us.Sometimes it isn't that easy to forget or forgive so for some people,revenge is justice.And I don't mind as long as it's a fair revenge but: An eye for an eye and pretty soon everyone is blind. Gibran
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عندما يتكلم الله رب العالمين يخرس الناس جميعا و عليهم الإنصات و الإذعان

لا ننسى أن الإنحطاط الديني و الأخلاقي لدى الشعوب التي تدعي الحرية و التحرر من الفكر الجاف ( الدين ) قد وصلت الى ما وصلت اليه من الإجرام بفعل نبذ الأديان وراء ظهورهم

و لو أن حقا نصل الى العمى لما كان سنها الله قديما و حديثا


و لا ننسى أيضا أننا نحن الجاهلون و الله هو الأعلم
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wiz my whole respect for u might3d, fi tana2oud here,
shari3it moussa says: al 3ayn bel 3ayn wal sen bel sen
din masi7e says: man darabaka 3a khadika l ayman der laho l aysar
din esleme says: onsour akhaka zaliman aw mazlouman.. (donno it all)
so not all religions agree on that, hayde 1st pt
2nd pt, l scene that just gave, eno film mexique hala2 if som1 insult me, i wont reply la eno i dont care, they r just words
hala2 if som1 hit me akid bredelo yeha, la eno 7a2e erja3 elebdo mech 7a ed7aklo
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العين بالعين و السن بالسن
هذه شريعة الله رب العباد ، فلا تتفلسفوا ، اساسا إن الله لا يطلب رأي أحد من عباده ، بل يُنزل الدين و على الناس أن يطيعوه
فمن أطاعه كان خيرا لنفسه و من عصاه فعليه أن يتحمل عواقب أفعاله

و لحسن حظ البشرية ، اجتمعت كل الأديان على هذه الشريعة و هذا تأكيد واضح أن الدين لا لغط فيه انما الناس هم الذي يُضلون أنفسهم بأنفسهم

أريد أن أوجه حديثي الى الذين قالون : هذه صلاحية الله وحده :
إن الله خلق الإنسان و أعطاه العقل ، و هداه طريقي الحق و الباطل ، لا بل أكثر من ذلك أعطاه التدبير و أرشده الى الصواب و أجبر الناس بتطبيق العدل ، فمن كان مذنبا وجب علينا تأديبه إلا اذا اعترف بجريمته و أدى ما يجب تأديته من قصاص فهنا وقع حسابه على الله . ولكن المنطق في العالم كافة قديما و حديثا يقضي بتأديب المجرم في حياته و لسوف يأتيه عذاب لا طاقة له به يوم القيامة

و أكرر و أعيد : المجرم وجب علينا تأديبه حتى يعترف بجريمته و يؤدي كل مستحقات الدَين للذين أجرم بحقهم
يعني بمعنى ثان : القاتل يُقتل و لو بعد حين (أو الظالم يُعاقب و لو بعد حين ) الا ان اعترف بجريمته (ظلمه ) و طلب الغفران ليبرأ نفسه أمام المقتول (أو المظلوم )و أمام ذويه و أمام الناس جميعا و أن يُقرّ بخطئه في الدنيا أمام الله ليكون بريء الذمة أمام الله و المقتول(أو المظلوم ) و ذويه يوم القيامة


نهاية ..هذا ليس رأي انا انما هذا هو دين الله عند اليهود عند المسيحيين و عند الإسلام
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عندما يتكلم الله رب العالمين يخرس الناس جميعا و عليهم الإنصات و الإذعان

لا ننسى أن الإنحطاط الديني و الأخلاقي لدى الشعوب التي تدعي الحرية و التحرر من الفكر الجاف ( الدين ) قد وصلت الى ما وصلت اليه من الإجرام بفعل نبذ الأديان وراء ظهورهم

و لو أن حقا نصل الى العمى لما كان سنها الله قديما و حديثا


و لا ننسى أيضا أننا نحن الجاهلون و الله هو الأعلم
LOL this guy is a treasure where did he go ? Does anyone know in what museum he works ?

Anyway to the topic of the thread? An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.....The first most primitive law man created. I am against it because of a lot of reasons. The above law doesn't even consider the possibility of the person performing the act at the first time being psychologically or mentally ill in need of treatment as opposed to being killed. The law above didnt see what many and many murderers later on in their life after the right rehabilitation managed to do and the many ways they helped society. In many countries. prisoners with long terms are the main source of blood donations made. In other countries they serve as cheap labor in areas normal labor won't work at. Many become religious and become at peace with themselves and repent their acts. Jails and prisons are not only expenses to the states but also money making institutions. Besides, if the man killed ur mom and this made u an orphan, by killing him back you have decided to punish his children or any family he has for example who probably had nothing to do with it. People are so excited about killing each other that they forget how final such decision is and how far reaching its results can be by affecting people who had no fault in the same place.

P.S. Whenever u find an answer to a moral question or dilemma easy (like in this case, an eye for an eye), you can safely assume it is not the best answer u will find cuz life's moral dilemmas are complicated and can't be generalized and then solved like this.
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