المعاملتين:ضيعة جنسية

[SysTaMatIcS]

Originally Posted by Adam

Robbery is also one of the oldest professions, should we legalize it as well.

if you prevent prostitution , illegal pros. will spread , spreading more stds and many other negative impacts , its better to legalize it and keep it under control.
Robbery , well you cant control robbery

[Adam]

Originally Posted by SysTaMatIcS

if you prevent prostitution , illegal pros. will spread , spreading more stds and many other negative impacts , its better to legalize it and keep it under control.
Robbery , well you cant control robbery

Legalizing drugs will make many criminal gangs disappear and weaken powerful criminal organizations. This is an argument driven by people who want to legalize drugs. Do you think we should legalize drugs?

And you're talking as if there are no pimps where prostitution is legal. Young people get taken advantage of, and if that young person is a girl they could be coerced into prostitution. Making it legal would make it easier for the pimp to get away with the crime.
I saw a documentary a while back, there was this girl who had gotten mixed up with a gang. She fell in debt with them and to pay it off they told her to start giving webcam shows, soon enough she was working as a prostitute. They got minor punishment because they hadn't actually forced her to do anything, they just "suggested".

[SysTaMatIcS]

Originally Posted by Adam

Legalizing drugs will make many criminal gangs disappear and weaken powerful criminal organizations. This is an argument driven by people who want to legalize drugs. Do you think we should legalize drugs?

And you're talking as if there are no pimps where prostitution is legal. Young people get taken advantage of, and if that young person is a girl they could be coerced into prostitution. Making it legal would make it easier for the pimp to get away with the crime.
I saw a documentary a while back, there was this girl who had gotten mixed up with a gang. She fell in debt with them and to pay it off they told her to start giving webcam shows, soon enough she was working as a prostitute. They got minor punishment because they hadn't actually forced her to do anything, they just "suggested".

the difference is HUGE , SEX according to maslow and to me , and logically is one of the secondary if not primary human needs, drugs arent , many people need to let out their sexual energy , or else that could lead to rape or even homosexuality , you cant compare drugs to sex . your argument is very weak.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by SysTaMatIcS

the difference is HUGE , SEX according to maslow and to me , and logically is one of the secondary if not primary human needs, drugs arent , many people need to let out their sexual energy , or else that could lead to rape or even homosexuality , you cant compare drugs to sex . your argument is very weak.

So the opportunity for young girls should live in humiliation and shame should be given just so you don't turn gay or into a rapist?

My argument wasn't that drugs are similar to prostitution, but both of them are equally bad.
Whichever of them you do, your life will be worse than anyone who doesn't.

[SysTaMatIcS]

Originally Posted by Adam

So the opportunity for young girls should live in humiliation and shame should be given just so you don't turn gay or into a rapist?

My argument wasn't that drugs are similar to prostitution, but both of them are equally bad.
Whichever of them you do, your life will be worse than anyone who doesn't.

you mean they are both bad to GIRLS , i agree , but drugs is bad for both sexes , prostitution is not , and like i said before , banning it wont stop it , legalizing it would make it alot easier and less suffering for the girls and the people, legalizing drugs wont solve a thing , and it wont make anything easier.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by SysTaMatIcS

you mean they are both bad to GIRLS , i agree , but drugs is bad for both sexes , prostitution is not ,

So prostitution is gives one sex all the fun, the other has to pay for it and you're fine with that.

Originally Posted by SysTaMatIcS

and like i said before , banning it wont stop it , legalizing it would make it alot easier and less suffering for the girls and the people, legalizing drugs wont solve a thing , and it wont make anything easier.

Same naive argument I hear every time I have this discussion.
Tell you what, you're clearly having a problem imagining the harm this thing causes, so picture someone you love (relative or some girl you care about) being forced into prostitution. It's just fine, isn't it? People have the need to get a sexual release and that person you love is in desperate need of money. So it's a fair trade.

After the deal is done, the client will move on, happy and will forget about this thing in a few weeks time. And that person you love will feel ashamed, will start to withdraw from society and starts loosing friends.

Things aren't the way you think they are. It's not a matter of her just laying on the bed and when it's done it's over. And the same thing goes for men who prostitute themselves, you would think it wouldn't be so bad, you get laid and you get paid, but even male prostitutes suffer psychologically from these things.

If you want to talk about this subject, I suggest you do some reading about prostitution and human trafficking, and yes, they are practically the same thing, whether the country it occurs in legalises prostitution or not. Where there is prostitution there is human trafficking.

[SysTaMatIcS]

Originally Posted by Adam

So prostitution is gives one sex all the fun, the other has to pay for it and you're fine with that.

Same naive argument I hear every time I have this discussion.
Tell you what, you're clearly having a problem imagining the harm this thing causes, so picture someone you love (relative or some girl you care about) being forced into prostitution. It's just fine, isn't it? People have the need to get a sexual release and that person you love is in desperate need of money. So it's a fair trade.

After the deal is done, the client will move on, happy and will forget about this thing in a few weeks time. And that person you love will feel ashamed, will start to withdraw from society and starts loosing friends.

Things aren't the way you think they are. It's not a matter of her just laying on the bed and when it's done it's over. And the same thing goes for men who prostitute themselves, you would think it wouldn't be so bad, you get laid and you get paid, but even male prostitutes suffer psychologically from these things.

If you want to talk about this subject, I suggest you do some reading about prostitution and human trafficking, and yes, they are practically the same thing, whether the country it occurs in legalises prostitution or not. Where there is prostitution there is human trafficking.

So you intend to ban prostitution , good luck with that , i agree on the bad effects done by pros. but this industy will go on no matter what we do , its better to limit and control it , thats all what im saying it . instead of keeping it illegal , human trafficking will occur more , women will be abused , stds will spread .

[Adam]

Originally Posted by SysTaMatIcS

So you intend to ban prostitution , good luck with that ,

You do know it's banned in most countries, don't you?
I'm not saying this thing is going to disappear, nothing does. There will always be prostitutes, but same thing goes for drugs. (Don't give me the "Drugs aren't the same" argument, just reread my posts)

Originally Posted by SysTaMatIcS

i agree on the bad effects done by pros. but this industy will go on no matter what we do , its better to limit and control it , thats all what im saying it . instead of keeping it illegal , human trafficking will occur more , women will be abused , stds will spread .

Again, you still think it's all that simple.
Human traffickers will not just disappear. If prostitution was legal, things could become very simple for them.

Again, try to see things from the perspective of the prostitutes who are not enjoying their job. Think about how they must feel doing that crap every single night. The law should be something that can rescue them, not push them deeper into it.

[SysTaMatIcS]

Originally Posted by Adam

You do know it's banned in most countries, don't you?
I'm not saying this thing is going to disappear, nothing does. There will always be prostitutes, but same thing goes for drugs. (Don't give me the "Drugs aren't the same" argument, just reread my posts)

Again, you still think it's all that simple.
Human traffickers will not just disappear. If prostitution was legal, things could become very simple for them.

Again, try to see things from the perspective of the prostitutes who are not enjoying their job. Think about how they must feel doing that crap every single night. The law should be something that can rescue them, not push them deeper into it.

Youre not getting my poin , i am against prostitution , but i had never seen a prostitute here who is not happy with her job .

[TAREK®]

Originally Posted by mr_j

as long as he uses condoms, nchalla yomboset :P
still better than smoking, that is what scares me, if my son starts smoking

I will only say " Alla y3ino ebnak"

Originally Posted by SysTaMatIcS

you mean they are both bad to GIRLS , i agree , but drugs is bad for both sexes , prostitution is not , and like i said before , banning it wont stop it , legalizing it would make it alot easier and less suffering for the girls and the people, legalizing drugs wont solve a thing , and it wont make anything easier.

so making prostitution legal will help us decrease the numbers of prostitutes ? so basically what u are saying is that sex should be legal anywhere in Lebanon so that people don't suffer ?

dude if the gov. makes prostitution legal u will see prostitutes everywhere, shu 3melet ya3neh? zdedet 3adad el sh***. its like u are encouraging them to have sex for a living.