Baroud

[GodMode]

So i guess u all heard Michel aoun speech yesterday ..i dont want to post it here just want to talk about baroud in specific..

Correct me if i am wrong at any point..

So GMA said and i Quote:

"Mafi mechikli 3a baroud yetwazar bass l mechikli ma3 marja3ito l siyessiyeh w mouch bi wizarit l dekhliyeh"

On the other hand, he wants to name all the christian ministers in the government .

Tab 7eloulna yeha...

a ) If baroud can be a minister then GMA has to name him for one.
b ) If baroud is named by GMA so no more problem with his political background anymore.
c ) If a and b are true Y cant baroud stay in the same position he is in?
d) GMA wants the interior ministry for other hidden purposes.

So...
we conclude that another speech was only bull*hit.
Unless u can explain the situation above.

You can Groan as much as you want but at least do it with an explanation..

[RAM BÓY™]

simple man mabeda waja3 ras WHAT GMA WANT WILL BE

[GodMode]

You dont even know what he wants...

[Kain]

ya3ne yareit law betseyroone bhal talab l metwade3 bas ...

Let's have a nice debate we can enjoy for a change ?? Bala 7ake nkeyet Sarcasm is fine bas bala nkeyet

[El-Meghwar]

It's not General Aoun who's making bullsh*t speeches, the story is that some people doesn't really understand or doesn't want to understand what he says.

GMA said that he doesn't have a problem with Baroud as a minister BUT not an interior minister.
why? simply because Ziad Baroud failed in his job and it is the time to try someone else, and since C&R bloc is the largest bloc in the new majority, this bloc has the complete right in having a sovereign ministry, and this bloc asked for the Interior ministry...
It is a matter of a Right.

I hope you understand now.

[GodMode]

Originally Posted by El-Meghwar

GMA said that he doesn't have a problem with Baroud as a minister BUT not an interior minister.
why? simply because Ziad Baroud failed in his job and it is the time to try someone else, and since C&R bloc is the largest bloc in the new majority, this bloc has the complete right in having a sovereign ministry, and this bloc asked for the Interior ministry...
It is a matter of a Right.

U missed 1st point which is

Mafi mechikli 3a baroud yetwazar bass l mechikli ma3 marja3ito l siyessiyeh

Correct me if he didnt say it...

2nd point : You are just trying to get away from the mistake GMA did, and you did another big one..
if what u explained is true, then C&R bloc is simply wrong.
If a person fails in a position how on earth do u give him another position?
This is illogical to talk about.
Besides Would GMA consider his name for another round?If yes? Why cant he keep him in the same place and do what is necessary to be done.

Bil 3arabi: wa7ad ahbal ma bta3ti gheir position, ya bitshileelo ya btetrko..
Inou ma mechi 7alo bil dekhlyeh mna3ti gheir chi? and you talk about C&R?

3rd : i am not talking whether tayyar should take the interior ministry or not, i am talking about how confused things are with GMA.
if you want to discuss this matter lets open a different thread

I hope you understand now.

Actually it is understandable but it needs more clarification.

[El-Meghwar]

Originally Posted by GodMode

U missed 1st point which is
Correct me if he didnt say it...

2nd point : You are just trying to get away from the mistake GMA did, and you did another big one..
if what u explained is true, then C&R bloc is simply wrong.
If a person fails in a position how on earth do u give him another position?
This is illogical to talk about.
Besides Would GMA consider his name for another round?If yes? Why cant he keep him in the same place and do what is necessary to be done.

Bil 3arabi: wa7ad ahbal ma bta3ti gheir position, ya bitshileelo ya btetrko..
Inou ma mechi 7alo bil dekhlyeh mna3ti gheir chi? and you talk about C&R?

3rd : i am not talking whether tayyar should take the interior ministry or not, i am talking about how confused things are with GMA.
if you want to discuss this matter lets open a different thread

Actually it is understandable but it needs more clarification.

In order to make it easier for you:

1. Ziad Baroud is a part of Michel Sleiman's share
2. Michel Sleyman is a consensual president who cannot take any stance against any of the Lebanese parties(ya3ne ma fi yza33el 7ada)

Therefore:
Ziad Baroud who is representing the president in the government cannot take the necessary actions in the interior ministry which led to a big failure in the ministry on all the levels (he wasn't able to put an end to Rifi's interference in the political scene, in addition to his faiure in maintaining the security situation all over Lebanon, in addition to Wissam El Hassan w tajewoz sala7iyeto etc etc .....)

That's why:
General Aoun who got the largest parliamentary bloc in the new majority has the complete right in asking a sovereign ministry, and since the interior ministry is having a very low performance since the president and his representative Ziad Baroud ma fiyon yza33lo 7ada, and since this low performance is affecting the country in a very negative way and transforming it into a lawless jungle, General Aoun who is the official representative of the Christians and the president of the largest parliamentary bloc, have the complete right in asking for a change.

Conclusion:
Ziad Baroud is not really the problem, bas marja3iyto who cannot take any political decision unless it was a consensual one (bi 7ekm maw2a3o l tawefou2e)... which is leading to a low performance in the ministries representing the presidency... li2an ma fiyon ya3mlo aktar mn heik....

And since the Interior ministry is one of the most important ministries, and since this ministry is a Christian share, and since C&R bloc are representing the Christians in this government and have the largest parliamentary bloc in the government, and since any failure of this government ra7 tkoun ma7soube 3al aktarye l jdide. forr all of the reasons mentioned above: General Aoun and his bloc are asking for their Rights.

[GodMode]

Originally Posted by El-Meghwar

In order to make it easier for you:

1. Ziad Baroud is a part of Michel Sleiman's share
2. Michel Sleyman is a consensual president who cannot take any stance against any of the Lebanese parties(ya3ne ma fi yza33el 7ada)

But GMA said that there is no problem in naming him as a minister..
Does that mean he is no longer on anyone's side?
Would GMA Name him?

Therefore:
Ziad Baroud who is representing the president in the government cannot take the necessary actions in the interior ministry which led to a big failure in the ministry on all the levels (he wasn't able to put an end to Rifi's interference in the political scene, in addition to his faiure in maintaining the security situation all over Lebanon, in addition to Wissam El Hassan w tajewoz sala7iyeto etc etc .....)

Even though this might be true from your point of view, but Baroud still proves that he is good for this position..Taking aside what is mentioned above, you dont have anything against him!

That's why:
General Aoun who got the largest parliamentary bloc in the new majority has the complete right in asking a sovereign ministry, and since the interior ministry is having a very low performance since the president and his representative Ziad Baroud ma fiyon yza33lo 7ada, and since this low performance is affecting the country in a very negative way and transforming it into a lawless jungle, General Aoun who is the official representative of the Christians and the president of the largest parliamentary bloc, have the complete right in asking for a change.

Beside the politics with rifi and wissam what do u have against the guy?

Conclusion:
Ziad Baroud is not really the problem, bas marja3iyto who cannot take any political decision unless it was a consensual one (bi 7ekm maw2a3o l tawefou2e)... which is leading to a low performance in the ministries representing the presidency... li2an ma fiyon ya3mlo aktar mn heik....

As we previously seen on the news, Na77as was accused that he over used his powers..I dont see anyone judging him especially from tayyar..
Hala2 we can sit all day long and compare between what Tayyar ppl are doing in the ministery and others and reach no point with it, since all have been screwing around ...

And since the Interior ministry is one of the most important ministries, and since this ministry is a Christian share, and since C&R bloc are representing the Christians in this government and have the largest parliamentary bloc in the government, and since any failure of this government ra7 tkoun ma7soube 3al aktarye l jdide. forr all of the reasons mentioned above: General Aoun and his bloc are asking for their Rights.

Well actually i have more than one thing to comment on this..
1- Who will judge the new majority? Hezbollah wala Tayyar himself?
2- Already said above, no one is judging Na77as for what he did lately with Ogero .
3- Who from tayyar will replace Baroud ? And how can we know if he is qualified enough? Gilbert Zwein maybe..