لماذا استبعاد المسيحيين في حوار سعد الحري

[yanni123]

على الطاولة كان السني والشيعي، على طاولة المفاوضات كان الرئيس بري والنائب سعد ‏الحريري، أما مسيحيو 14 آذار ومسيحيو 8 آذار فلم يكونوا هناك.‏
التفاوض يجري بين طهران والسعودية بين الطائفة الشيعية والطائفة السنية، وأما المسيحيون ‏فليسوا على طاولة المفاوضات.‏
يتقرر مصير المسيحيين وليسوا هم موجودين، ومن أجل تمويه هذا الخطأ بحق المسيحيين يقوم سعد ‏الحريري بزيارة البطريرك، ولكن المسيحيين لم يجلسوا على طاولة المفاوضات.‏
منذ عام 1943 وحتى العام 1991 عند إزاحة العماد عون، كان المسيحي يشترك في الحوار، وبعد ‏دخول سوريا تم التحكم بالجميع وحكمت المخابرات السورية كل الطوائف وقررت عنها، وأما ‏اليوم وتحت عنوان السيادة والاستقلال فالمسيحي ليس موجوداً.‏
سؤال موجه الى سمير جعجع والى نايلة معوض وسمير فرنجية وغطاس خوري والى العماد عون، والى كل ‏المسيحيين : لماذا انتم لستم على طاولة المفاوضات، وفقط نبيه بري وسعد الحريري يقرران ‏مصير لبنان؟
لو كانت القضية هي خلاف بين سني وشيعي لما اثرنا الموضوع، ولكن عندما يتم بحث مستقبل ‏لبنان فالمسيحيون والموارنة لهم تاريخ كبير في حماية لبنان ونشوء لبنان والحفاظ على مستقبل ‏لبنان.‏
لو كانت القضية هي معالجة القضايا المذهبية بين سني وشيعي لما قام المسيحيون واثاروا ‏الموضوع واحتجوا على اللقاء، لكن طالما ان مستقبل لبنان يجري بحثه والمحكمة يجري بحثها ‏والسياسة الدفاعية يجري بحثها، وطالما ان تأليف الحكومة يجري بحثه حول كيفية الاشتراك ‏بالثلث او غير الثلث، وطالما ان الامور المستقبلية للبنان يجري بحثها، فكيف يمكن ان يجري ‏البحث بكل هذه الامور بين السني والشيعي والمسيحي غائب؟
ألم يعد هناك من مكان للمسيحيين في هذا الشرق؟

[elly]

i see this meeting fromm a different way, i think that's the opposition leaders choose nabih berri to represent them cauz he doesn't have a serious conflict with 14 feb as strong as GMA, SHN or SF have , and Harri represent 14 feb cauz first he's the most conserning abt the international investigation ( it's abt his father assasination) and second he's nearest to the opposition leader comparing to geagea and jumblatt, u know we can hardly imagine saad harriri with SF or GMA

[pouta]

no comment(since if i commented it will hurt many sides by revealing the truth)..also instead of the christians to wake up and unite and have one opinion,.ba3don bi nafes el 7araket ga3ga3 w aoun...allah yefta7elna 3a2elna

[General]

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[badboy_10452]

Originally Posted by General Rami

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[SysTaMatIcS]

CUZ the main powers in the middle east rite now , are USA and iran and saudia arabia ..........

[General]

there's a worldwide game called Elimination of the christians in the middle east
... mainly powered by the neo-christians (aka christian-jews) headed by the pope of rome...

the neo-christians are controled by the jews, mainly israel and usa, and their one and only goal is: eliminating the christians of the middle east, the original christians, those who fought to remain since the death of the lord jesus christ...

Israelis hate christians more than anything else existing, you go figure why... maybe the wait for a new messiah drove them insane as long as he's not showing...

neo-christians are those who chose to be christians, maybe by force, or by nature i don't know, but they have nothing to do with the christians of the middle east...

where are the christians between KSA and IRAN? i feel more comfortable with the Iranians as a christian, history showed that they would care less about other countries diversions... but concerning KSA, it's a blood sucking country...

that was long!

[El-Meghwar]

I'm as a Lebanese represented by General Aoun,and General Aoun is represented in the current dialogue by Berri the one who's negotiating in the opposition's name ( the opposition include sunnites and druzes etc ..).
so,i think that this whole analyze is false.because Hariri doesent represent the sunnites in the opposition,so the current dialogue is not between religions,i don't know why they always put religion in the political game .

it's not a dialogue between sunnites and chiites and christians are out . NO,it's just a dialogue between the Opposition (druzes,christians,sunnites,chiites ..) represented by Berri and Loyalists (druzes,christians,sunnites,chiites ..) represented by Saad Hariri .

so,

Loyalists are backed up by Saudi Arabia and they brought Iran to Lebanon by insisting that Iran have a role ,so the loyalists (ex syrian agents) cannot do anything or agree on anything exept if it's coming from the outside (heik m3awwadin) ..so Iran profited from this occasion in order to make its international relations more powerfull ... and started to negotiate the Lebanese issue with KSA ...
the best patriotic statement is the one gived by GMA when he asked untill when should we wait the countries to solve our issues ??
Only the LEBANESE people must resolve his problems without bringing any other country ... but unfortunately we can't do nothing since we have Hariri,Junblat and Geagea who cannot make any step if they didnt contact their foreign masters and keep playing on the religious nerves .

[fmd03]

As many said, i don't consider this as a sunni-shee3i dialogue with christians out. This is a dialogue between opposition (represented by berri) and loyalists (represented by harriri). Bas i have to point 1 thing here. El Sunna wants the Ma7kami to be happy. El Shee3a wants 7umoomit Wi7di Wataniyyi to be happy (although the additions will be for chritians). And the chritians want a new elections law that gives them their rights. For me, i think these 3 parties should be given what they want as an essential part of the solution in lebanon. The christians should unite in this and not agree on any solution that doensn't give them this.