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Old 05-02-2008   #11
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Default Re: Your view on the Syrian presence/occupation era.

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National benefits, be ra2yak aw be ra2yon, but can you prove that protecting the Syrian occupation from 2000 to 2005 brought more national benefit than harm? Or can you prove that what HA label as "National Benefit" wasn't or won't ever be HA benefit? I sometimes really see you ppl believing whatever HA officials say, maybe because most of them are Sheikhs? And for the record, if you don't know about the personal benefits HA got, it is only because you didn't live among them. The reaped and still reap a lot of personal benefits....You don't have to take my word for it, s2al 7ada sade2 w 3ayesh bayneton...
Skanet bel dahye senten, w ba3dne brouh kel yom, care to explain what kind of benefits they reaped? And how was HA protecting Syrian presence in Lebanon ? yemken bel 3aks ya khaye. Ok protecting it, but protecting it from what?

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under certian circumstances they would....I am tired of giving example and examples but you know pretty well that they accepted the Syrian occupation in the 2000-2005 era and they did that out of conviction that this was the best for Lebanon (so they claim)...They will do it again if the same kinda conditions arise...
Take the example of Hitler, u cant fight a war on 2 fronts. He declared war on the U.S.A, got 2 bears on both his side and had got eaten. Declaring opposition to Syria would have ment annalihation. Because HA is a military movement and their is no other way to bring weapons and supplys but from the Syrian border, they had to accept that fact which they didnt have any invovlement in its birth.

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Everyone agrees for a while and disagrees for a while...that is how Lebanon has always been...While I might sound way too cynical, but I think no two Lebanese ever really agreed(in the full sense) on anything...
True in my opinion.

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You really make the middle east sound like it was heaven before 1948 Israel or no Israel, America or no America, the reasons of all the conflicts in the Middle East come from within its borders not from out groups...Maybe you are not very familiar with the history of the area but the Middle East never had peaceful days even before America was discovered I don't care if Israel gets erased as a country but for sure I would have to stand for the lives of its citizens. The answer to terrorism have always failed to be more terrorism. The answer to extremism has always failed to be Extremism in the opposite direction...And that is the situation in Lebanon, we are stuck between two poles, each equally a problem, and we can't seem to find any politician anywhere in the center....
Yes of course, the golden era which the area experienced and had caused europe to shift to the renaissance era was a true blight!

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It goes against GMA teachings..I have said this a billion times, but would GMA have said when he was all about principles in 1990, "I am ok with the concept of a militia from one sect of the Lebanese people being more powerful than the Lebanese army, establishing self governed strips of the country, being involved in a regional domination game, being funded by a country deeply involved in many problems in the area including the Lebanese civil war. arresting suspects and interrogating them and performing many other acts that surpass what the Lebanese police would do (abel reefe ) and undermine all the civil rights of the Lebanese citizens involved in this..." No need to talk more about this..HA the concept is wrong from GMA's patriotic principles, HA the practice is a violation against the concepts of Lebanese democracy and the rights of the citizens living in that democracy, HA the party are a party that still doesn't ascend from the secterian borders in its goals and ideology.....
YOUVE GOT A (OR 2 lahata rayhak, bass wahad baynenton mab3ous:P) WOLF ON UR BORDERS MAN! Tell Athe, u claim to base ur arguments on logic, what would happen now if HA were to be disarmed ?


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