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Old 08-23-2010   #11
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E3tirad Siyasi?

I would like to see what would the Muslims in Iran do if the Christian Society have decided to make a Movie or a Serie about how Mohammad used to get Drunk.

I don't believe you guys are actually trying to defend that.

Jesus said:
عامل الآخرين كما تحب أن يعاملوك.Do you guys want the Christians to say faulty things about Mohammad? You know there are many things known about prophet Mohammad that could be easily made into a comic series.
A stupid painting made few years ago waged protests all over the globe.

That was a stupid move in my opinion.
I havent heard of any insult , it shows his story from a different point of view , that he was not crossed , theyr not saying he was a rapist or a drunk , theyr showing a different story , thats all . and yes it completely political.


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You guys don't get it. I was not trying to defend the Christians' point of you as much as trying to show how stupid it was to make such a movie.

Remember I'm an Atheist, and I don't believe in any religious bullshit.
It's just that, promoting such a story about a religious figure, that most of the people on the planet know something different of, is an insult to their intelligence (Not that I don't believe that religious itself is the major insult in the first place). When you tell people that what they believe in is totally wrong, they tend to react by protesting, whether you insulted their religious figure or not.

Religious stories have been passed over generations for too long, and many "faulty" stories about Mohammad were passed along too, such as him suffering from Epilepsy .

No one can prove any of those right, nor wrong.
Now, for those who asked for what stories are "known", I'm not saying that those are true facts about the Prophet, I just asked for the Muslims' reaction, and it was clear that most of you focused on that point and totally forgot my point of the post.

Again, if you don't accept other people's point of you about your religion, don't promote stories about their's.
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Remember I'm an Atheist, and I don't believe in any religious bullshit.
It's just that, promoting such a story about a religious figure, that most of the people on the planet know something different of, is an insult to their intelligence (Not that I don't believe that religious itself is the major insult in the first place). When you tell people that what they believe in is totally wrong, they tend to react by protesting, whether you insulted their religious figure or not.

Your religious belief was not put into question in any of the replies. Your post was, meaning the way you addressed the matter and the other members. Had you addressed the matter respectfully you wouldn't have gotten any replies such as the one we made.

And as said in moqawem's post. The vatican itself agreed to the movie the series was based on and praised the way it showed the differences between the Islamic and Christian versions.

Furthermore the series was not about telling christians that they're wrong. It was about showing the life of Jesus Christ from the Islamic point of view, as said in the Koran. Which is why the director released his statement. I mean seriously...it's based on the barnabas bible which is not adopted by the church and yet the Vatican praises it and has nothing to say about it???

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Now, for those who asked for what stories are "known", I'm not saying that those are true facts about the Prophet, I just asked for the Muslims' reaction, and it was clear that most of you focused on that point and totally forgot my point of the post.
Focused on that point?? Well it's also clear that we replied to your post. But when you address what we hold as sacred in such a disrespectful manner it's only normal that you get such a reaction and that we focus on that point.

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Again, if you don't accept other people's point of you about your religion, don't promote stories about their's.


And again, you should have read Moqawem's post before replying to it.
The life and message of Jesus Christ is also an integral part of our religion. These are not "stories" to us. Nor do they contain any offense to the Christian image of Jesus.
If the church was fine with it and considered it and praised it as a good means of showing the difference between the Islamic and Christian versions, then one may wonder why the Lebanese priests were the ones who protested, especially when it was used politically.

Differences are acceptable but respect is a must.


edit: and i'm just curious. Why "faulty" and not faulty ??
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I can understand why some of you took this personal I apologize for that, I didn't mean to harass anyone.

But I still think that this was a bad move
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Where can we get a copy of the movie and where can we get a copy of banned gospels?
http://www.ahlul-bayt.net/almaseeh.htm

You can watch the series here.

edit: i just received the e-mail containing this link and posted it here in case anyone wanted to watch it.
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Al Hummus Nation post about this:
الله يستر على عرضكن





عطفاً على ما تناقلته وسائل الإعلام حول موضوع المسلسل الذي عرض على شاشات إحدى القنوات التلفزيونية والذي يتناول قصة حياة السيد المسيح، واللغط والإستنكار والشجب وهزة البدن الذي رافقاه بسبب ارتكازه على إنجيل برنابا المرفوض كنسياً بحجة أنه (المسلسل) يشوه الديانة المسيحية، يهم مديرية التوجيع – وكالة الأنباء الرسمية أن توضح التالي:

أولاً: ما من مسلسل يستطيع تشويه الديانة المسيحية، حتى ولو كان مخرجه جايمس كاميرون، أكثر من الحملة التي قامت بها لائحة “كرامة جونية” إبان الإنتخابات البلدية الأخيرة والتي كان عنوانها “الكل ضدنا والعدرا معنا”. حتى ولو إجتمع كاميرون مع ستيفن سبيلبرغ وجورج لوكاس في عمل مشترك موحد مع كل عدتهم للمؤثرات الخاصة. مفهوم؟

ثانياً: إذا كان السلم الأهلي والعيش المشترك والإنصهار والتآخي والتعاضد والغرام للفشش بين الطوائف كله واقف على مسلسل، فصراحة بلاها وخليهن يفلتوا على بعض.

ثالثاً وأخيراً: إن التصريحات اليومية للإقطاع الديني – المسلم والمسيحي وستة مكرر- وتحريضهم المذهبي على بعضهم البعض في كل مناسبة وتدخلهم في السياسة والإنتخابات والرقابة على كل شيء قد يضر بالعائلات المتحكمة برقاب العباد وكل شاردة وواردة هو الذي يشوه الدين ويكفر المواطن بالبلد وكل ما يحوي (والله عليم ماذا يحوي)

فمعليش، حلوا عنا وروحو عملوا شي صحن أورما كبير لتفوتو فيه بمجموعة غينس للأرقام القياسية، حاجكن فايتين ومفوتينا معكن بالحيط. أو حتى إذا صار عندكن شوية وقت بين التصريح والتصريح المضاد والتلطيش المبطن، عمرو شي بناية أو تنين للعائلات ذات الدخل المحدود بركي بينسترو الله يستر عليكن. بركي هيدي بتكفر عن ذنوبكن وبتخفف تشويه للديانة المسيحية، ليلحق الديانة الإسلامية. فبلا مواعظ حول ما يشوه وما لا يشوه أرجوكن يعني… اوكي خالو؟
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