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Old 05-07-2009   #1
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Question What About Jezzine!!

العماد عون يعلن لائحة جزين و تضم كلا من : زياد أسود ـ عصام صوايا ـ مبشال حلو

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إنتهينا الى تاليف لائحة وتواجهنا لائحة يدعمها الرئيس بري وهذا لن يؤثر على أي علاقة إنتخابية في المناطق ذات النفوذ المشترك


Do u think this would affect the opposition people, in other meaning if GMA and Berry Agreed that just the battle in jezzine do you think that the supporters will be committed to both FPM and Amal Decisions?!



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Let the best win

Worst & Best case scenario for the opposition is wining the 3 seats.
Worst case scenario for FPM is break through of Nabih berri candidate.
Best case scenario for Amal is wining 1 candidate.
Worst & Best case scenario for the loyalists is wining 0 seats.

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great step by GMA
let's be straight and say it straight jezzine is 80% christians and 20% shiites. why would nabih berri chose some of them and aoun not???

they say salim azar, may 7th will show who's salim azar

they link it to jbeil, allow me to tell that the 30% of shiites in jbeil are hezballa and amal don't have more than 1500 votes among those 13 000
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let's be straight and say it straight jezzine is 80% christians and 20% shiites. why would nabih berri chose some of them and aoun not???

they link it to jbeil, allow me to tell that the 30% of shiites in jbeil are hezballa and amal don't have more than 1500 votes among those 13 000
i would rather say that the representative power of FPM in Jezzine is much much higher than thus of Amal corporation.

you are talking with the vocabulary of Amal Corporation and sons.
i'm not so shocked. this is my biggest reproach to FPM. They are not working hard on implementing laic mentality.

FPM leaders and followers know that (e.g.) in south, there is considerable supporters of FPM among non-christians. almost all those who are seeking for a patriotic movement whitout a sectarian identity support FPM. How would you adress them General ? That FPM was lying before and now with the actual election law, we are talking "straight" ?
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العماد عون يعلن لائحة جزين و تضم كلا من : زياد أسود ـ عصام صوايا ـ مبشال حلو



Do u think this would affect the opposition people, in other meaning if GMA and Berry Agreed that just the battle in jezzine do you think that the supporters will be committed to both FPM and Amal Decisions?!


It's a good step from General in naming a complete list...
But the bad step was naming the lawyer of El Medina Bank...
I find it a very big mistake...
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It's a good step from General in naming a complete list...
But the bad step was naming the lawyer of El Medina Bank...
I find it a very big mistake...
Shou khas?
First some people are saying it's a rumor.
Second, a lawyer is a lawyer not a suspect.
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i would rather say that the representative power of FPM in Jezzine is much much higher than thus of Amal corporation.

you are talking with the vocabulary of Amal Corporation and sons.
i'm not so shocked. this is my biggest reproach to FPM. They are not working hard on implementing laic mentality.

FPM leaders and followers know that (e.g.) in south, there is considerable supporters of FPM among non-christians. almost all those who are seeking for a patriotic movement whitout a sectarian identity support FPM. How would you adress them General ? That FPM was lying before and now with the actual election law, we are talking "straight" ?
Thank you majousseh.. 100% true

In addition to that i don't think that what happened in Jezzine will affect the other regions. I believe that both Berri and General Aoun agreed on that step and let the best win.
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great , they just gave the loyalists a free seat in jezzine , 2 on aoun lists will win , the 3rd one will have his votes divided (70%,30%) .
while the loyalists with one united list , one of them will win that divided seat.
berri MA BYESHBA3.
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The FPM decision was taken after several stats in the area,

The stats showed that FPM is having more than 80% over (not just only between christian)

FPM and GMA are not taking it from a christian side only.
FPM has loads of supporters in jezzine from all the sects,
And this situation applies in Jbeil, Baabda, Zahle, Tripoly, Akkar, West Bekaa, Hermel, Saida, Sour And Beirut.

The FPM popularity is increasing day by day within all the lebanese sects, FPM is showing the real vision toward a real State.

You Can see That in the Electoral Program announced today.

Click Me for the FPM Electoral Program

This is the part of the Civil State:

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اقامة دولة المدنيّة: دولة الحق

على رغم أنّ بعض الصفات المدنيّة متوافرة حاليّاً في الدولة اللبنانيّة بموجب الدستور، إلاّ أنّها قائمة أساساً على الطائفيّة في نظامها السياسيّ والإداريّ، وعلى التشريع الدينيّ في قوانين الأحوال الشخصيّة، دون أن يكون للدولة تشريع مدنيّ خاصّ بها.

إنطلاقاً من كون السلطة في لبنان تستمدّ شرعيّتَها من الشعب، ومن كون الدولة تكفل حرّيّة الإيمان والمعتقد من خلال قوانين الأحوال الشخصيّة، فإنّنا نعمل على أن تعترف الدولة أيضاً بحقّ المواطنين الراغبين في أن تكون علاقتهم بها مباشرة وليست من خلال الطوائف
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أمّا دولة الحقّ التي نسعى إلى إقامتها، فالغاية منها ضبط سلوك الحاكم وأجهزة، وحماية المواطن من انحراف السلطة إلى التسلّط، ومن الاستنسابيّة الفرديّة في تطبيق القوانين

واتّخاذ الأحكام والإجراءات المتعلّقة بالحياة العامّة في المجتمع.
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Shou khas?
First some people are saying it's a rumor.
Second, a lawyer is a lawyer not a suspect.
It's not a rumor!!!
With all my respect to anyone ... you know me very much, i never write something I'm not sure of it!!!
I might have several opinions that might be wrong, but concerning the news, i never wrote something unsure...
I might be wrong in my opinion, maybe the best step was naming this lawyer for elections... no one knows, days will prove!

As for your opinion, lawyer is not a suspect, i second you, but knowing El Medina's issue, and how was this issue closed, i think that in an indirect way, this lawyer has been more than a lawyer
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