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Old 05-01-2010   #41
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There's a very huge difference between a Comedian mocking Atheists, and a person in a forum mocking his fellow members.

I'm surprised you compared between those 2 situations.
I didn't notice from his posts that he is mocking anyone in the forum, he was referring to atheists in general. Anyways replying in the forum should be with no disrespect to anyone's person, and what he said was purely his opinion about a group, not about particular people in the forum. No offense to anyone.
We all joined this forum to share our experiences and learn from others' experiences, and I think that he was being professional, or maybe he sounded professional because he is writing in formal Arabic :P.


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well you should really start watching your language when you talk about atheists. Just because a group of people decided to go naked in the streets it doesn't mean that atheists are stupid and "mas5arjiyeh"

in addition, i don't see anything in this pointing to atheists.

And you don't see me mocking you (a muslim dude) because of what el-qaida is doing [notice that if i want to think towards muslims the way you do towards atheists, i should be mocking your shit all over your face], or you don't see me mocking muslims because religious girls have to hide their heads and hair.

Although, not to mention that atheists have the right to mock you back the way you're doing to them, you don't see any atheist in here mocking your holly religion.

So you ought to watch out from now on, because the mas5arjiyeh might strike back.
بداية الامر ليس بحاجة لهذه الحدة،
اما عن وصف بعضهم بالمسخرجية فهذا لا يعدو كونه توصيف واقعي لأشخاص يعدون من رواد الالحاد والوثنية في لبنان قاموا وعلى مدى الاسبوع الماضي بطرح هذا الموضوع بشكل منظم وغير عشوائي ، بل وعن سبق اصرار للمسخرة على الدين، اما انا فقد عاهدت نفسي ان اقف لهم في كل شاردة وواردة، ليس لصغر عقل ولا نكاية، انما احقاقا للحق، تذكر ان لا شأن لي بمعتقدهم، لهم دينهم ولي دين، لكن ان تتم المسخرة بهذه الطريقة على الدين، فهذا الامر يترتب عليه الكثير من الامور بالنسبة لي، منها التصدي لمسخرتهم.اما عن تصريح الشيخ، فكان بامكانهم انتقاد التصريح، والشيخ شخصيا، وليس من العقل في شيىء ان يأتي شخص او مجموعة منظمة (يعلم الله خلفية تنظيمها) لتتحدث عن الدين وعن الله بهذه الطريق واتخاذ تصريح شيخ منطلقا للهجوم على الدين وعلى الله، وان كان هذا الشيخ قد اخطأ، فهو الذي اخطأ وليس الدين ولا الله، ناهيك عن انهم يستهزئون بايماننا، ببما يضع علامات استفهام كثيرة حول هؤلاء الاشخاص وادعاءاتهم الكاذبة بانهم يحترمون معتقدات الآخر.
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I didn't notice from his posts that he is mocking anyone in the forum, he was referring to atheists in general. Anyways replying in the forum should be with no disrespect to anyone's person, and what he said was purely his opinion about a group, not about particular people in the forum. No offense to anyone.
We all joined this forum to share our experiences and learn from others' experiences, and I think that he was being professional, or maybe he sounded professional because he is writing in formal Arabic :P.

Well if you read my post again, you would notice that if I would mock a certain group of people called Muslims, I wouldn't get as much respect as if I would attack Atheists. Simply because Atheists mostly don't care if anyone attacks them in here.

On the other hand, Muslims and Christians would be ready to start a fight about it.

However, this does not mean that anyone has the right to attack Atheists in here.

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or maybe he sounded professional because he is writing in formal Arabic :P.
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بداية الامر ليس بحاجة لهذه الحدة،
اما عن وصف بعضهم بالمسخرجية فهذا لا يعدو كونه توصيف واقعي لأشخاص يعدون من رواد الالحاد والوثنية في لبنان قاموا وعلى مدى الاسبوع الماضي بطرح هذا الموضوع بشكل منظم وغير عشوائي ، بل وعن سبق اصرار للمسخرة على الدين، اما انا فقد عاهدت نفسي ان اقف لهم في كل شاردة وواردة، ليس لصغر عقل ولا نكاية، انما احقاقا للحق، تذكر ان لا شأن لي بمعتقدهم، لهم دينهم ولي دين، لكن ان تتم المسخرة بهذه الطريقة على الدين، فهذا الامر يترتب عليه الكثير من الامور بالنسبة لي، منها التصدي لمسخرتهم.اما عن تصريح الشيخ، فكان بامكانهم انتقاد التصريح، والشيخ شخصيا، وليس من العقل في شيىء ان يأتي شخص او مجموعة منظمة (يعلم الله خلفية تنظيمها) لتتحدث عن الدين وعن الله بهذه الطريق واتخاذ تصريح شيخ منطلقا للهجوم على الدين وعلى الله، وان كان هذا الشيخ قد اخطأ، فهو الذي اخطأ وليس الدين ولا الله، ناهيك عن انهم يستهزئون بايماننا، ببما يضع علامات استفهام كثيرة حول هؤلاء الاشخاص وادعاءاتهم الكاذبة بانهم يحترمون معتقدات الآخر.

Now you're saying "
يعلم الله خلفية تنظيمها"

So basically everyone who attacks Muslims is an Atheist for you at least until this last post of yours

This is so weird...
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On the other hand, Muslims and Christians would be ready to start a fight about it.
Unfortunately because they are not sincere with their religion. In Prophet Mohammed's PBUH time, non believers set up an army with elephants to burn down the Ka'aba, so some believers ran to the Prophet and told him that, so he said: " Don't worry there is someone who is going to protect his own house." Now Muslim's violent response is only their initiative towards the case, and not the religion. Islam was never built based on Violence, one proof is what happened with Imam Ali and his household. They were oppressed and they never held a sword against the people who were oppressing them unless to defend their family from being slaughtered. Thats why 3ashura is called the victory of blood against the sword. If you are right and you are oppressed be assured that you are the winner, and that your message will last forever. What Muslims are doing now, like what happened against embassies around the world is 100 % WRONG, and they are just ruining the reputation. Thank you for not generalizing. As for my opinion, I am not against absolutely anyone. It is not my job to determine who is saved and who is not. I try to show how peaceful my religion is by being a good person. And that's what god wants from you. God says: "He whose saved is who come to me with a clean heart."
I apologize for the long post.
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now you're saying "
يعلم الله خلفية تنظيمها"

so basically everyone who attacks muslims is an atheist for you at least until this last post of yours

this is so weird...
لا ابدا ، انا ما قلت ان كل شخص يعارض المسلمين هو ملحد بالضروة،
لكنني من معرفتي بمن استلموا هذه الحملة في لبنان، اعرف جدا انهم وراء ما حصل، وانهم تقصدوا التحريف والكذب،والتحوير في كلام الشيخ، لكي يستغلوه في الهجوم على الدين والله بشكل عام وولاية الفقيه بشكل خاص
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Oh. This should be in the funny thread.
How do people debate jokes?!
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