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Old 08-22-2008   #21
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Yeah he is extremely smart especially in war tactics and strategies when he sent his troops into the hands of the Russian against the will of his area generals and received one of the biggest blows there. A smart leader doesn't let his prejudices and racial insecurities drive him blindly, like a raging mindless bull, into the slaughterhouse.
do u really think it was his idea to attack the URSS? I think he got betrayed by one of his generals


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"mentally sick" are actually "mentally ahead of others"
Everyone in this world can kill after all, those who do it are labeled sick murderers because of actually doing the action. For example, for sure Geagea is not mentally ahead of others. Being Mentally ahead of others is a very vague sentence, though, with a very long explanation.

Hitler is one of the worst murderers ever ( although morally all murderers are equally bad ). Those who like him, are those who only have heard his name somewhere and how a "tough man" he was and how good he was at killing those "horrible" Jews.
As I said , agreeing with such man's action is being a complete hypocrite in your life.

Let me not control my rage about my words: He is a ****ing murderer, if someone came and killed someone's mother he becomes the worst criminal in that person's mind ? But someone who tortured whole races of people and murdered them so brutally is very cool and smart ? That is living your life in complete hypocrisy and nonsense.

At least some murderers are mentally insane people so their actions are "justified"( notice the quotations), but doing it the Hitler way by making killing certain races as a law is the epitome of shit.

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Its funny how no one mentiones that about 50% of the civilian casualties during WWII were inflicted by the allies. Oh why know that? We want hitler to look meaner dont we?

Everyone rants and rages about the 3 million jews dead in poland (killed by hitler) but fail to mention the other 3 million christians killed (also by hitler). As if portraying that hitler is on some kind of crusade against the jews.

But if hitler is such a murder and that is well established. If it such concrete evidence why shut down every voice claiming otherwise. Why imprison Paul Garroudi. It doesnt help that they confiscated the supposed "hitler journals", back in 80's, deemed to be a fake. I ask? If they are fake, why confiscate them?

U have little information on this subject? Well tire not googling for it, you wont find a mention. The newspapers that published the diaries is "Stern".

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Yeah he is extremely smart especially in war tactics and strategies when he sent his troops into the hands of the Russian against the will of his area generals and received one of the biggest blows there. A smart leader doesn't let his prejudices and racial insecurities drive him blindly, like a raging mindless bull, into the slaughterhouse.
Its funny how u chose what to attack. Taking a blind side at the fact that he took his crumbeling country out of debt and despair in the early 1930's and transformed it into a super power in a matter of 6 years.
Do i smell a bit of prejudice?

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Now as for hitler, I hope u had the chance to tell him that you, a Muslim Arab, are one of his fans It will eb interesting to see how he disposes fans who are not White Aryans
Hm, quite interesting. I didnt know that french people were aryan descendings. WoW it turns out that even the arabs are of aryan descendance. Thanks for the info!
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Its funny how no one mentiones that about 50% of the civilian casualties during WWII were inflicted by the allies. Oh why know that? We want hitler to look meaner dont we?
I'm not against you on this point, if you want to look for crimes during WW2 you will find many that were committed by the Allies (ex. the burning of Tokyo), the reason why these crimes are rarely talked about is because of the result of WW2, the winner gets to write history. But, that doesn't make Hitler a saint or a martyr, he still committed many crimes which cannot be forgotten.

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Everyone rants and rages about the 3 million Jews dead in Poland (killed by Hitler)
The same as above, the Zionist movements used the Holocaust as an excuse to create Israel and that is the only reason you still hear about it today, there were many genocides before and after the holocaust but none are mentioned today because there is no political organization strong enough that it can profit from history. Again, that doesn't make Hitler a saint.

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So killing people not your color and killing people who have formation issues and Jews is smartness? Thinking that you are the chosen people and kill everybody else is smartness? that's SICK
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Everyone in this world can kill after all, those who do it are labeled sick murderers because of actually doing the action. For example, for sure Geagea is not mentally ahead of others. Being Mentally ahead of others is a very vague sentence, though, with a very long explanation.
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Hitler is one of the worst murderers ever ( although morally all murderers are equally bad ). Those who like him, are those who only have heard his name somewhere and how a "tough man" he was and how good he was at killing those "horrible" Jews.
As I said , agreeing with such man's action is being a complete hypocrite in your life.

Let me not control my rage about my words: He is a ****ing murderer, if someone came and killed someone's mother he becomes the worst criminal in that person's mind ? But someone who tortured whole races of people and murdered them so brutally is very cool and smart ? That is living your life in complete hypocrisy and nonsense.

At least some murderers are mentally insane people so their actions are "justified"( notice the quotations), but doing it the Hitler way by making killing certain races as a law is the epitome of shit.
when I mentioned that Hitler is smart, its not because he murdered the Jews.
His plan was to make Germany a superpower, and as Xantipe mentioned he succeeded to do that in a matter of few years (don't forget how weak Germany was after WW1, and how morally ill were its citizens back then)
He believed Germany can only become a super power by Eliminating the Jews (He believed they were the reason behind their loss of WW1) and he actually has a point. His strategy was very strong. He controlled his people by spreading fear in the country and by giving special attention to the "Aryan" race. There just couldn't be any better way to get the best out of his people.
Well he was smart enough to make his name live until the end of life on earth.

I still remember a quote he said, its something like "I did not kill all the Jews, because I want to show the world what the remaining few ones will do"
And boy was he right...The Jews are currently the people in charge of all the money in the world (Banks), and the people holding the biggest companies as well.

And if you want to talk about the killing of people, it seems u are not aware of the current world situation, people are dying in poor countries and in countries at war. Who is responsible of all this crap? there are always people in charge but they are never exposed to public, because they are the people in control of the media and the world. The only difference is that those people never kill using weapon, they kill using politics. U just need to open ur eyes....

At least Hitler did all that for the sake of his country, and not his own sake.

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I'm not against you on this point, if you want to look for crimes during WW2 you will find many that were committed by the Allies (ex. the burning of Tokyo), the reason why these crimes are rarely talked about is because of the result of WW2, the winner gets to write history. But, that doesn't make Hitler a saint or a martyr, he still committed many crimes which cannot be forgotten.
I didnt say that he didnt kill, just not the extent western media would like us to believe. And as ur kind words proclaimed, the winner also does his best to make his enemy look as bad and as murderous as he can.

The same as above, the Zionist movements and the western countries used the Holocaust and exagerated it ten folds, making it look as if the jews were the main target in the WW2, as an excuse to create Israel and that is the only reason you still hear about it today, there were many genocides before and after the holocaust but none are mentioned today because there is no political organization strong enough that it can profit from history. Again, that doesn't make Hitler a saint.
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when I mentioned that Hitler is smart, its not because he murdered the Jews.
His plan was to make Germany a superpower, and as Xantipe mentioned he succeeded to do that in a matter of few years (don't forget how weak Germany was after WW1, and how morally ill were its citizens back then)
He believed Germany can only become a super power by Eliminating the Jews (He believed they were the reason behind their loss of WW1) and he actually has a point. His strategy was very strong. He controlled his people by spreading fear in the country and by giving special attention to the "Aryan" race. There just couldn't be any better way to get the best out of his people.
Well he was smart enough to make his name live until the end of life on earth.

I still remember a quote he said, its something like "I did not kill all the Jews, because I want to show the world what the remaining few ones will do"
And boy was he right...The Jews are currently the people in charge of all the money in the world (Banks), and the people holding the biggest companies as well.

And if you want to talk about the killing of people, it seems u are not aware of the current world situation, people are dying in poor countries and in countries at war. Who is responsible of all this crap? there are always people in charge but they are never exposed to public, because they are the people in control of the media and the world. The only difference is that those people never kill using weapon, they kill using politics. U just need to open ur eyes....

At least Hitler did all that for the sake of his country, and not his own sake.

Lol, that's funny.
I said he's a murderer.
I can do the same as he did, anyone can do that. Stop labeling people as smart and smarter when it comes to such ruling.
There is something called conscience. If I cross it I can go rape some girl I think is hot, or go raging in the streets shooting whoever I want. It's that simple.

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Well he was smart enough to make his name live until the end of life on earth.
THIS is terrible

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Edison was smart enough to make his name live until the end of life on earth. Is that really a nice comparison for you to make ?

Do you know how many serial killers and mass murderers have their name living forever ? So now those are all smart to have done so ?

Oh and when you're talking about the Jews, it sounds as if all the Jews do those secret meetings underground to plot and kill everyone else on earth. lol

And about the killing of people, what does that have to do with Hitler, I judge Hitler by what he has done , If this was a thread about Israel's mass bombings of Palestine , then I would attack them.
This is like : "Oh yeah you think I am a murderer ? Go see what others have done !"
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There is something called conscience. If I cross it I can go rape some girl I think is hot, or go raging in the streets shooting whoever I want. It's that simple.
Do u actually believe that the germans killed all these people because it suited to Hitler's whims? And not because there was a ravaging war going on, back when mass bombings were the only viable solution to hit targets. Its rather frivolous to use the "conscience" in war, as it is a kill or be killed situation. No, im not advocating hitler's doings, im just asking for not to buy in all the western propaganda about him.

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I can do the same as he did, anyone can do that. Stop labeling people as smart and smarter when it comes to such ruling.
Do the same as in kill people or fix an entire countries economy, level its military and improve all living conditions? Because as for the later i seriously doubt u can manage to do that my friend.
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Lol, that's funny.
I said he's a murderer.
I can do the same as he did, anyone can do that. Stop labeling people as smart and smarter when it comes to such ruling.
There is something called conscience. If I cross it I can go rape some girl I think is hot, or go raging in the streets shooting whoever I want. It's that simple.
He didn't kill randomly, and thats the point I'm arguing on, he was aware of what he is killing, and there was a reason behind it. END!

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Do you know how many serial killers and mass murderers have their name living forever ? So now those are all smart to have done so ?
well u gotta be smart for being a mass murderer.U see, its not easy to kill people.

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Oh and when you're talking about the Jews, it sounds as if all the Jews do those secret meetings underground to plot and kill everyone else on earth. lol
well nothing is impossible.
At least we know their leaders do.

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And about the killing of people, what does that have to do with Hitler, I judge Hitler by what he has done , If this was a thread about Israel's mass bombings of Palestine , then I would attack them.
This is like : "Oh yeah you think I am a murderer ? Go see what others have done !"
I'm not justifying Hitler's acts by showing other's.
I'm showing that crimes worst than Hitler's are not being talked about, just because the people who have done them are in control of everything.
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when I mentioned that Hitler is smart, its not because he murdered the Jews.
His plan was to make Germany a superpower, and as Xantipe mentioned he succeeded to do that in a matter of few years (don't forget how weak Germany was after WW1, and how morally ill were its citizens back then)
He believed Germany can only become a super power by Eliminating the Jews (He believed they were the reason behind their loss of WW1) and he actually has a point. His strategy was very strong. He controlled his people by spreading fear in the country and by giving special attention to the "Aryan" race. There just couldn't be any better way to get the best out of his people.
Well he was smart enough to make his name live until the end of life on earth.

I still remember a quote he said, its something like "I did not kill all the Jews, because I want to show the world what the remaining few ones will do"
And boy was he right...The Jews are currently the people in charge of all the money in the world (Banks), and the people holding the biggest companies as well.
Read again what you wrote and see how logical it is.
According to what you said we can label bin laden as a smart person lol.
This is racism on its best dude. when bin laden and the extremists tell you that the koufar should be killed and they will keep some to remind the world what the koufar could do. you're just saying the same thing which is pure retarded and stupid mentality.
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And if you want to talk about the killing of people, it seems u are not aware of the current world situation, people are dying in poor countries and in countries at war. Who is responsible of all this crap? there are always people in charge but they are never exposed to public, because they are the people in control of the media and the world. The only difference is that those people never kill using weapon, they kill using politics. U just need to open ur eyes....

At least Hitler did all that for the sake of his country, and not his own sake.
You are a person who is trying to justify the shit hitler did and trying to turn them into achievements. How could you justify killing people in gas rooms because they were either disfigured, black or jews?
And in the other hand you're asking to know who's responsible of the wars in the poor countries? you need to consume more logic on what you say my friend.
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