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View Poll Results: Are we arabs
Yes 25 59.52%
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Don't know 2 4.76%
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Old 05-06-2007   #41
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in canada u r arab so u r muslim so they ask me u r arab i tell them no i am lebanese coz lebanese here is not arab, a lebanese he may be muslim or chrestian


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in canada u r arab so u r muslim so they ask me u r arab i tell them no i am lebanese coz lebanese here is not arab, a lebanese he may be muslim or chrestian


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1st off "muslim" doesn equal "arab". Their are 50+ million muslims in China, i bet they dont refer to themselfs as being arabs.
Well everyone is free to believe whatever one pleases and identify himself the way he wishes. But throughout the world lebanon is recognized as an arabic country. We are living in an arabic country, with arabic traditions and values that almost everyone living here has adopted.
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1st off "muslim" doesn equal "arab". Their are 50+ million muslims in China, i bet they dont refer to themselfs as being arabs.
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Well everyone is free to believe whatever one pleases and identify himself the way he wishes. But throughout the world lebanon is recognized as an arabic country. We are living in an arabic country, with arabic traditions and values that almost everyone living here has adopted.


Can I ask u something?During the Ottoman's Empire and Before was Lebanon ever Considered part of The Blad Il SHam actually the Lebanon was a Mountain lebanon and it was never considered Arabic the use to say "Not Arabic ,Bas thoo wajh 3arabi".
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Can I ask u something?During the Ottoman's Empire and Before was Lebanon ever Considered part of The Blad Il SHam actually the Lebanon was a Mountain lebanon and it was never considered Arabic the use to say "Not Arabic ,Bas thoo wajh 3arabi".
before lebanon was considered as part of bilad el sham, he was considered what ? aslan he was considered part of what ?

lebanon was and will always be part of blad el sham (bilad el sham means the land of the north or the peace land, originally taken from the word "sam" son of Noah ... only in the near past bilad el sham was divided by sayks-pico agreement to smaller countries ...

w bilad el sham was occupied by the ottoman's empire for many years ... so does this make lebanon an islamic country ? and do you know that the origin of ottman's are mangolians ? so are we mangolians if were occupied by the ottoman's empire?

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During the ottoman reign, their was nothing called lebanon. The christians and the druzes only lived in the moutain of lebanon with a relative independance according to the agreement with the ottomans.
The rest, sahel, bekaa, jnoub, chmal, were all part of syrian unity. They were concidered to be syrian lands until 1920 when lebanon was proclaimed.
During the islamic conquests, now day lebanon was a part of bilad al sham, the area was ruled by mou'awiya himself. Their was nothing called lebanon until 1920 really.
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During the ottoman reign, their was nothing called lebanon. The christians and the druzes only lived in the moutain of lebanon with a relative independance according to the agreement with the ottomans.
The rest, sahel, bekaa, jnoub, chmal, were all part of syrian unity. They were concidered to be syrian lands until 1920 when lebanon was proclaimed.
During the islamic conquests, now day lebanon was a part of bilad al sham, the area was ruled by mou'awiya himself. Their was nothing called lebanon until 1920 really.
You be an arab, but dont force people to become arabs...thanks
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You be an arab, but dont force people to become arabs...thanks
where did he force anyone to become an arab?? thts the truth hes sayin , in 1920 they created the thing called "lobnan alkabeer" and they took the south and the north and the biqaa to lebanon from alsham lands , cuz lebanon cant live only from the jabal lebnan area , so france gave lebanon these lands...
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systematics ur 4 sure right... wat's known by lebanon is just a new idea gotten after 1920.... 2ND OF ALL, R WE ARABS? WELL NO, R WE PHONICIANS?? AKID NO, Y NOT... WELL WE'RE A RESULT OF A GREAT MIX(MAZIJ SOULALI MOTAJANISS) THROUGHOUT HISTORY OF MANY AND MANY RACES... ARABS, KANAANI,ROMANI, GREEK,2ASHOURI, KALDANI,ARAMI,KURDI. ND THE LAST RACE WHICH ENTERED OUR AREA IS THE ARMAN..... AND 4 THE PEOPLE WHO SAY THAT WE'RE ARABS BCZ WE SPEAK ARABIC... WELL WHO CAN BE SURE AFTER 1000 YRS WE'LL STILL SPEAK ARABIC, 2ND OF ALL 4 THOSE WHO SAY WE R PHONECIANS, AND HERE'S A PROBLEM... SOME PEOPLE IN LEBANON USED THIS "FALSAFE' " JUST 4 POLITICAL GOALS... BT GUYS HISTORY IS REALLY BRIGHT... THERE'S NOTHING CALLED PHONICIAN... PHONECIANS R THE KAN3ANIYYIN WHO LIVED ON THE SYRIAN SEA ND THUS WHO FOUND OUT THE "2ORJOWAN" COLOR... PHONECIANS IS JUST A GREEK NAME 4 THE KAN3ANIYYIN WHO FOUND OUT THIS COLOR .... THIRD OF ALL, THE PRESENCE OF (PHONICIANS) WAS OVER THE WHOLE SYRIAN COAST( LEBANON, PALESTINE, ND SHAM) ND THEIR CAPITAL WASN'T BEIRUT... IT WAS OGARIT, IT'S A WONDERFUL PLACE IN LAZIQIYYA BL SHAM ( I VISITED IT, A WONDERFUL OLD CITY BUILT FROM ABOUT 3500 YRS(AS I THINK)) SO IF WE WERE REALLY PHONICIAN THEN LET'S GO ND FREE OUR CAPITAL IN LAZIQIYYA!!!! THIS MIX OF RACES, IS THE SAME IN SHAM, PALESTINE, IRAQ, ND JORDAN, ND EVEN CYPRUS.......... ND BKHSOUS L 3ARAB, THE WORD ARAB COMES FROM 3ORBA OR sA7RA... SO THE 3ARAB CAME FROM THE ALJAZEERA L3ARABIYYA ND CAME 2 THIS LAND LONG AGO.... WE SHOULD ALL BE PROUD OF OUR GREAT ANCESTORS WHO WERE ARABS, KAN3ANIYYIN, ND MANY OTHERS.... THE LAST POINT I WANNA SAY IS THAT PHONICIANS IN THE PAST WERE NOT A SINGLE KINGDOM OR COUNTRY, THEY WERE MANY COUNTRIES.. IT WAS JUST LIKE THE FEDERAL SYSTEM NOWADAYS... SO WHO'S SO HAPPY TO MAKE LEBANON NOW LOOK LIKE THE OLD PHONICIAN KINGDOMS, WHO'S HAPPY TO HAVE THAT FEDERAL LEBANON??????
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1st off "muslim" doesn equal "arab". Their are 50+ million muslims in China, i bet they dont refer to themselfs as being arabs.
Well everyone is free to believe whatever one pleases and identify himself the way he wishes. But throughout the world lebanon is recognized as an arabic country. We are living in an arabic country, with arabic traditions and values that almost everyone living here has adopted.
and u didnt mension ya man , enou the highest population of muslim pepole is in indonisia , their are 200 million muslim , and we all know that indonisia is not arab !
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