The Archbishops finally found out Hariri Junior is completing Hariri seniors Plans

[BG]

Originally Posted by abousoun

All these are just accusations and claims and personel readings from someone called "Rabi3 Ya3qoub" ... go back to the origin of this thread and see who is buying and selling the lands my friend
If i want to post the articles written about loyalists buying and selling lands, this thread won't be enough ...

Thank You ...

anything against you, is accusations and claims, and everything "supported by you" is real and clean. no, i cant support you in that

[abousoun]

Originally Posted by BG

anything against you, is accusations and claims, and everything "supported by you" is real and clean. no, i cant support you in that

Bro i didn't tell you to support me, and i told you if i want to post the articles about lands bought and sold by loyalists ma mno5lass, all these are just claims and accusations from here and there ... so why should i waste time by putting them !!!
It's about defending your point of view and defending mine ... but no one is forcing you to beleive anything you don't accept

Thank You ...

[BG]

Originally Posted by abousoun

lands bought and sold by loyalists

in what regions? by whom to whom ?

[lebanese_a]

I read some parts of this thread and just some side-notes to some comments.

The note:

Sunnis and Chiites are buying Christian Lands, the Christians are just too dumb to fight this phenomenon, so if you say to a Aounist Hezbollah is buying Land, he'll reply saying that Hariri is buying Land and if you say to an LFer that Hariri is buying Land he'll reply by saying Hezbollah is buying Lands, Like any of those replies will fix the problem!

The return of the note:

To buy Lands there is the person who buys and a person who sells we know why they are selling, we need to work to stop them from doing so and not fight over who's buying more!

The revenge of the note:

Hariri tried in 82 to buy Lands in and around Saida from Christians, he buyed some, and was stopped later by Bachir saying he'll re-buy all lands bought with Saoudi Money, but Bach died later on.
The same thing is happening in this area and in other areas (v 2.0 include support of Druze Areas, Bugs may occur when Joumblat goes crazy) , with Saoudi Money and with Iranian money while the Christians are busy in both cases pointing to the other source.

The last stand of the note:

Buying Land is normal in "normal" countries, but the "térkibé" of Lebanon makes those kind of sales dangerous.

[Rami_s]

ناشد المركز الكاثوليكي للإعلام في بيان المسؤولين والسياسيين الإسراع في معالجة الأمور قبل تفاقم الضرر، فلا يجوز بعد الآن تمريرها في هذه الظروف الحرجة التي تمر بها البلاد ومن ثم الاعتذار والتوضيح والتباكي. كما يطلب من اللبنانيين عامة والمسيحيين خصوصًا محاسبة نوابهم ووزرائهم وممثليهم السهر على حقوقهم وقضاياهم المحقة وإشعارهم بأنه لا يمكن إعادة انتخاب من تغاضى عن هذه الحقوق، مذكرًا بما جاء في الإرشاد الرسولي رجاء جديد للبنان فقرة 112: «لا يجوز للعلمانيين المؤمنين قطعيًا التخلي عن المشاركة في السياسة أي عن النشاط الاقتصادي والاجتماعي والتشريعي والإداري والثقافي المتعدد الأشكال الذي يستهدف تعزيز الخير العام، عضويًا وعبر المؤسسات»

[xcoder]

Originally Posted by BG

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dude, secularism (or claiming secularism at least) i guess you know what it means, right?
just take a look at the secular parties acts (SSNP, Communists and others) they NEVER mention something belong to christians or muslims, or winning in this area or that.
However, when you say that you are secular ma bet2oul:

• l 3imad aoun za3im l masihiyyi
• l tayyar 3indo aghlabiyyeh masihiyyeh
• FPM supporter are mostly christians
• bla bla bla (the list continues)

If any of SSNP or communists won mostly in christian areas it would have turned directly into christian represetatives just like what happened with FPM.
However Future Movement is secular lol

u dont have to mention religion under any circumstances
im not telling you u dont have the right to defend your religion as a christian, but not under the curtain of secularism and politics!

When are you being fought because of that point you can't reply from another side. however FPM consitution is clear have a look on it and try to find the word "christian or mulsim" in it.

this is the first mistake, you proved my point

In the opposit my friend when you have a big part of the party who are non christians it doesn't mean you're a christian movement.
FPM represents most of the christians but it's not a christian movement. is it hard to understand?

kamen here, you just proved once again my point
tracha7 bi manta2tak if you want civil system

Hehehe we should ask that for the LF and 14 feb christian MPs

+ they didnt exclude you, you excluded your self!

Uf kif ba2a? how FPM excluded itself .

that you accepted it (remember)

we didn't check FPM statements, but we couldn't leave the whole country for hariristan
However it doesn't change the fact that it was made to resize the christian representation does it?

MA have the right to be a candidate, he's a candidate and no one excluded him!

Stop ignoring the point.
You always say that you care about the christian choice and what they want. wainkon from the christian choice?

taef issue is discussed earlier
and so, the constitution, work by the law, you wont loose anything

The same as majless doustoureh? or the "3aysh moushtarak" that taef talked about?
You're not even able to apply what you signed on

what paper? lol

Does your "minister" signs ama kamen hariri signs 3ano?

إسرائيل تدمر والجمهورية الإسلامية الإيرانية تعمر
باروح بالدم نفديك يا بشار
شكراً سوريا الأسد
وسيبقى عرين الأسد عرينا لكل أسود لبنان
إفتخر يا صديقي.. حلفائك الأبطال

Who said i agree on everything with my allies?
Before accusing other's allies get back the keys of beirut and close the doors of moukhtara and get back the 44 billion dollar your allies with the syrians then we'll see about that.

no one accepted this terrible mistake, it is fixed now, the good friday is back and no one can take it from us

Ow your ministers weren't smart enough to find out it was bad for the christians untill monseigneur talked about the subject?

Your're not updated my friend. check matarneh statement of yesterday

ur proving contradiction, ur proving my points by urself!!

Khaye i m not secular i am a fanatic christian who can't imagine or talk to anyone other than a christian mabsout?
Now, since you claim that you fight for the christians and you're the christian cause and salibkon maghrouss bel share2 where are you from this? what are you doing for christians and their choice??

we all know who is the president

Lahoud is another syrian ass kisser but we don't want another non popular president who is brought to sign papers.

you know my opinion, i dont accept so called hariristan

Talk is cheap, you talk about something and do the opposite. what are you doing to avoid it?

however i dont accept nasrallahstan!!!!!!!!!!!!
or shi3istan or sunnistan!!
let be clear to you and to all

kif "nasrallahstan" i can't get it.
Hariristan is clear by just checking your government actions. "nasrallahstan" is calling for unity government.

[The Lizard King]

BG as i see from ur posts that ur defending in a way or another and approving on the wrong decisions token from the government against the christians deniying the facts that LF & Kataeb are raising their youth followers on the thoughts of the "wa7da bte7meh el masi7iyeh" or shar2iyeh dont know cant you see whats happening geagea is agreeing on every decision or else decisions are taken without him knowing abt them which lead to a serious problem "mousherakeh". the FPM and GMA specially talked in several occasions about the family and raising children on sectarian thoughts and wrong beleives no one denies the role of OLD LF with bashir but now this role has changed and the FPM which is a non secterian party is leading the christians wether u agreed or not its a fact. and we are ideal la darageh that we cant shut our mouths when seeing all christians rights denied since 1990 and still even worth on the past 2 years. stop running from the truth and accusing HA wherever you feel ur self in the corner.

[BG]

Originally Posted by xcoder

If any of SSNP or communists won mostly in christian areas it would have turned directly into christian represetatives just like what happened with FPM.
However Future Movement is secular lol

man, the first rule of bieng secular, is NOT to mention religion under any circumstances, other wise dont cliam it, this is what secularism is all about.
the same thing for FM, the leadership and the constitution is secular but the supporters dont act so!

When are you being fought because of that point you can't reply from another side. however FPM consitution is clear have a look on it and try to find the word "christian or mulsim" in it.
In the opposit my friend when you have a big part of the party who are non christians it doesn't mean you're a christian movement.

the same thing here, this is not what secularism is all about!
anyway, im not going to discuss this issue with you its not our topic
i just tracked a point, its no big deal, if your secular, goo for you! ma eleh 3lek shi!

Uf kif ba2a? how FPM excluded itself .

this is my question

Stop ignoring the point.
You always say that you care about the christian choice and what they want. wainkon from the christian choice?

i told you, everyone is free of his choice!
and as for you stop talking in the name of the christians!

The same as majless doustoureh? or the "3aysh moushtarak" that taef talked about?
You're not even able to apply what you signed on

kif stantajet hek?

Does your "minister" signs ama kamen hariri signs 3ano?

lol, hariristan propaganda stuff, speechless!!

Who said i agree on everything with my allies?
Before accusing other's allies get back the keys of beirut and close the doors of moukhtara and get back the 44 billion dollar your allies with the syrians then we'll see about that.

same here, who said i agree on everything my allies say?
anyway i told you "al rojou3 3an l khata2 fadila"
you cant stay accusing everyone from his past if you are really willing for "C & C" or isla7 w teghyir

Ow your ministers weren't smart enough to find out it was bad for the christians untill monseigneur talked about the subject?

all of them knw and agreed that the this law should be changed!
its really a shame that you are waiting people on each step just to score points!!!

Your're not updated my friend. check matarneh statement of yesterday

ok but what that have to do with our topic?

Khaye i m not secular i am a fanatic christian who can't imagine or talk to anyone other than a christian mabsout?

yea akid, late confession better than never

Now, since you claim that you fight for the christians and you're the christian cause and salibkon maghrouss bel share2 where are you from this? what are you doing for christians and their choice??

dont worry about us dude
worry about the so-called majority, since LF dont represent 5% of the christians

Lahoud is another syrian ass kisser but we don't want another non popular president who is brought to sign papers.

no one want this kind of president, bass mesh bel daroura GMA aw la a7ad, since your slogan is "ne7na" and "we7deh wataniyyeh" and mosherakeh and so and so , ya3neh "ana aw la a7ad" ma ra7 temsheh!

Talk is cheap, you talk about something and do the opposite. what are you doing to avoid it?

i dont see anything called hariristan, its propaganda once again
and once again used to score points.
but also for your case talk is cheap, alliance with LF and PSP drop all the claims and accusations about this FPM created hariristan

kif "nasrallahstan" i can't get it.
Hariristan is clear by just checking your government actions. "nasrallahstan" is calling for unity government.

i explained it earlier in this thread!
kif nasrallahstan ????????????????????????
ok la ellak kif

• we are not allowed to walk into the camps to pass 3ala l virgin without tosri7 mnel 7ezeb
• Lebanese Army needs tosri7 mnel 7ezeb to enter some regions
• kidnapping ISF bi 7ejjet enno manta2a amniyyeh and ISF is for hariri
• HA "indibat" 3am ymashe l seir in some areas and i saw them
• l moukawama l islamiyya (the slogan)
• and other points discussed earlies and the list goes on!

MAYBE and im telling you maybe, both want nasrallahstan and hariristan but i cant see how!

"nasrallahstan" is calling for unity government.

everyone is calling for unity, proove to me its not fake

[SysTaMatIcS]

Originally Posted by BG

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everyone is calling for unity, proove to me its not fake

i jst wonna comment on this , 8 march and hizbollah have been askin for a unity goverment since 8 months , and still 14 march wont give em , 1st they said 8 march wonna shut down the court , the court is done , so wat now? they say they want guarantees?!!!! , lets say they got these guarantees , am 100000000000000000000000000000% sure that somethin new will come up with them direct from awkar!

[abousoun]

Originally Posted by BG

i dont see anything called hariristan, its propaganda once again

Welcome to Hariristan (so called propaganda )

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