The Archbishops finally found out Hariri Junior is completing Hariri seniors Plans

[xcoder]

Originally Posted by BG

[/b]listen dude, im not discussing who represent me and who represent you, you the situtatuin the country is passing through, there are quite more important issues than arguing who is representing who, the gov. represent all the lebanese people!
and you are going to tell me no, the shiites and FPM are not represented

Dude we have "este2sar" of power. we can't understand yet what you don't want FPM in the government?

but its a government for gods sake!!!! its not "bayt byout" as you said, though the president dont represent all of us, why you dont want him to resign? ?

7aj te7kineh big titles. more than a million person went down to the street and don't want this government to stay and he didn't resign backed by the countries that if any of this happens the whole government goes down in 2 minutes.
as for the president who said we want lahoud to stay?
Check what i said again my friend we don't want a president who signs papers we don't want to replace a bad president with another one but you're too blinded by propaganda to see that.

if your not happy dont reply, but, i can accuse you in everything is see that i have to!!

????

so what do you want? you want to apply taef or no?
i said once before, you have to make some "tanezolet" for the country sake

We want our constitution to be applied fham!
You're asking us to make tanezolet? how much you want tanezoulet? accept that FPM get 2 ministers and all the others are pro FM ino either byed3asouna or we can't get in?

its not about all what you want! your not living alone my frnd!

I should say that. ino look at your government tell me what do you see? it seems you live alone!

that was internal LF issure, nothing to do with presidency or seats or nothing.

It's not about LF or everything it's about the way of thinking

oh and dont tell me that "majd loubnan o3tiya laho" for batrak mdey2etak kamen? the patriarch is not a presidency candidate lol

What does this have to do with this subject?

he was once running a debate in a political talk show, the pronouncer asked him, who will run beside you? he said "ana aw la a7ad" !!!! i was watching it, donno kif fetetak hayde

Changing users and fake your political afficiliation doesn't give you enough credibility. BRING ME EVIDENCES!

you're just asking me to look, while im looking and i didnt see what's bothering you! you know that hariri junior is un-mature in politics and he cant decide everything, but your propaganda against LF or lets not call it propaganda.. your "attack" i donno, its unreasonable, enno.. ghireh walla di2et 3ein? LOL !!

Ghireh w di2et 3ein, poor us we couldn't get a ministry seat .

i told you, hariri was #1 syrian puppet in lebanon, when he tried to revolute against them, they finished him, now his son who is new in politics never worked with them , right?
anyway, u keep tellin, they where syrians!! ma your allies WHERE and STILL syrians!! enno both alliances worked with the syrians for once dude! just take it from the right side. why you only see the empty side from the cup?

Hariri was against Syria? that's new to me give me a statement of hariri talking against syria, ba3dein how did you know syria finished him? i m not defending syria but how you jumped to conclusion that syria finished him so far it seems fate7 al islam re behind ein alak and pierre's assasintion.
Our allies have good relations with syria they don't ignore it but they don't change faces to keep the chair that's the difference i m not defending any of them i don't want links with syria nor the united states nor KSA... in a way they control my country unlike your allies who keep on seeking for a baby siter against their people.

maybe! but not him alone, im not defending any side, but i second what i said, that oppositionist also need auditing! so no one will stay exept LF and FPM who didnt enter in the past governments , lol (halla2 dont tell me LF had a minister, enno they had bass ma sherak, he resigned deghre w dont re-open the topic)

Then don't tell me he did good things in 1%.

so ma byeb2a hada!!!!

Do you want it or not?

tayyib, ma ana ma3ak, go and get him from his grave, the man is dead!

At least people would know who stole their money in the past 15 years.

not for all, for some

hala2 you just said ino FPM and LF are not corrupted khaye stop playing the 2 faces game with me either aoun is corrupted or he isn't.

dude, i told you ma byeb2a hada, everyone stole, the syrians are responsible for the biggest part, u dont want anyone then!
anyway, its a good idea, everyone who stole let him be judged

I agree,

no i need you to tell me, how the christians dont have their right?

i asked you a question and you didn't reply you can't answer to a question by a question however i ll go with it and let this person answer you or maybe he doesn't know check what he says about tehmish of the christians.

how do they differ than muslims? where did you see the discrimination between christians and muslims? or you just want to find anything to say "hariristan"

Wlek kif they're represented?
Who represents them? nayla mouawad? ouwet? min sawatlon?
Stop being blinded it's your rights we're talking about.

the same reason your using not to make by-elections in maten!
well, lets see maten's by election and judge, then the early elections MAYBE will be after a new president, with a new law of election, let it be legal!

LEGAL? you want elections in maten without the president signature and you tell me LEGAL?
However since you're not updated enough FPM is getting ready for these elections in case a unity government had place which will make lahoud sign it
Besides to remind you of the LF results in 2005 (14000) FPM (56000) you have big chances
Besides since you're sure you're gonna win then why only wining in maten when you can win all the other areas heik heik aoun is acting to represent christians what a liar

yes, it reflect your/my pt. of view

yih kif ba2a? kif it reflects your point of view?
Give me one name who is more popular than GMA for the presidency in the christian street and on all Lebanon and i will be the first to accept him (check all statistics made since 2005 - 2007)

l mohemm l president should not be neutral!
tekhrab l deneh t2oum te23od! bass l president should not be neutral.
u think sanyoura? berre? will resign??

That proves my point eh they won't resign so then the president should not be neutral
ba3dein kif you agree on bachir speech and you want a neutral president lol you're weird!

on the other hand, if we just took it from the postive side, and had a neutral president for ALL lebanese, and not for one side, he might solve many problems

When your sanyoura resigns and berre resigns we'll see about that we're not mama tereza to give away our rights haida yalli lezim tefhamo!

there is a country ahham mnel jrass taba3ak

This is public stupidity kif you want to make a country and have a good relation especially in shouf when people didn't get their money back to return to their homes... and you want good relations mish fehim.

bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! anyway, eltellak watch your allies first, let El-Murr to give us back ahelna (mesh jrass PEOPLE) who sent them to syrian jails, let him at least appologize for what he have done

He did before the 2005 elections in public. maybe we should ask jumblat to excuse about the Army he killed in sou2 el ghareb with syrian weapon or for the people he slaughered in shouf

man, i dont give a damn sh** about any of those leaderships!!
GMA is distinguished in everything ma hek?

loool go tell that to haifa she has body guards
However the body guards are in GMA's place but in the big zone he is protected by Lebanese Army and ISF

enno! he have his own security after all, personal security ok, but those security li bihammsho dor el LAF wel ISF for what?? "Welcome to Nasrallahstan"

I told you i m not with it why you keep on bringing this up i m telling you it should not exists in addition to the korayten thingy which is big enough go and check it or the ma3loumet branch that we know very well for whom it works.

yes and sure the christians to represent you HAVE to be FPM

Na3mtallah abi naser isn't FPM and many other MPs in our block.
I don't know what's your definition to christians representatives ino they have an ID with christian 3laya or they represent christians?[quote] becuase if they were'nt FPM bikouno 3omala israeliyyeh + 3omala souriyyeh (sebi2an) + + + !!
and the others representatives are "lal kabb" if they werent FPM
we'll see later, hold on for the moment
[/quote] so you're right my friend i really excuse
the LF/nayla... who came with the non christian votes in north represents christians and who won in the christian street doesn't. what a logic you use very childish and you tell me you're not a blind follower.

just dont answer me if i know nothing LOL

ino you don't know what's the opposition demands and you attack it.
Unity government means to you throwing loyalists outside and sit in their place. you have mental problems

same goes to you, what unity when you attack the 14th of march alliances ?
what unity when you call us israelian agents?

Who accused you being israeli agents?
But there's many facts that shows that you didn't act against them such as the order to give the israeli tea in marja3youn base when they were killing lebanon children

unity starts withing, it doesnt start with one side against other!
and unity is more important than the unity government!
WAKE UP!!!!

looool, you need some political eduaction my friend you have logic troubles.

However this is my last reply to you, you don't know my demands and you're attacking me and you call youself a non blind follower.
once again: ignorance is a sin

[Ghnadine]

how do they differ than muslims? where did you see the discrimination between christians and muslims? or you just want to find anything to say "hariristan"

a point that at last they are seeing that all Christian seats are well no more .......they see all that and the alledged Goverment(I won't swear,I want to but I won't) we have in the goverment in specific the Christians are defending the goverement isn't it Ironic..
Xcoder thanks for the Video..
The funny part is that Mr. Samir is Saying where were the 15 years christians rights...right where were the 2uwat when fPM's were beaten and killed and they put him in prison weird isn't it now he came out of jail to stand by his jailor ooof what kind of representation is that to Christians..they wanted to yilgooo al jum3a al 3atheema ooof why don't they yilgoo the 14 feb day off because of Harriri.and now Samir ga3ga3 is defending them by saying it was a mistake............wierd

[BG]

Originally Posted by xcoder

Dude we have "este2sar" of power. we can't understand yet what you don't want FPM in the government?

no one dont want FPM in the government, but, lamma kenit l 7koume 3am tetshakkal, the FPM was offered seats that they dont want and there's a quote "al kana3a kanzon la yafna" .
u came in to 2005, you re-entered the lebanese politics, not just to take over everything as you want and by yourself!

7aj te7kineh big titles. more than a million person went down to the street and don't want this government to stay and he didn't resign backed by the countries that if any of this happens the whole government goes down in 2 minutes.

on the other side, more than a million person are supporting the gevernment, and more than 1.5 million went down to the streets want lahoud to resign! and he didnt.

as for the president who said we want lahoud to stay?
Check what i said again my friend we don't want a president who signs papers we don't want to replace a bad president with another one but you're too blinded by propaganda to see that.
????

at least what is shown in the media (especially your media) and what is clear to all people that the president now, that we all know he is here just to sign paper, you are supporting him, it is clear for everyone, while in 2005, you were cheering "FELL" but unfortunatley, now you care more for the "maw3a2 l ra2is" since you saw enno you have a chance to replace him, and its not a wierd thing that lahoud is supporting Aoun in most of his statement, f-f!!

We want our constitution to be applied fham!
You're asking us to make tanezolet? how much you want tanezoulet? accept that FPM get 2 ministers and all the others are pro FM ino either byed3asouna or we can't get in?

its something up to you if you care for the seats, more than you care for the country! for me, i dont mind being represented by a moderate muslim, who cares for everyone, is better than a christian seeking only for seats and names, who have a simple and personal objective, fighting for the seat to achieve his personal objectives

I should say that. ino look at your government tell me what do you see? it seems you live alone!
It's not about LF or everything it's about the way of thinking

no i can see very good approaches recently, especially from hariri (hariri - berri , Hariri - Aoun) , on the other hand, tell me what are you doing to support "3aych el moshtarak" and dont start listing the MOU understanding that we cant see anything applied on ground

Changing users and fake your political afficiliation doesn't give you enough credibility. BRING ME EVIDENCES!

i cant find the vid, but what that have to do with our topic?
and why you are using this language? is it teasing or what ?
if i changed i would even argue with you!

Hariri was against Syria? that's new to me give me a statement of hariri talking against syria, ba3dein how did you know syria finished him? i m not defending syria but how you jumped to conclusion that syria finished him so far it seems fate7 al islam re behind ein alak and pierre's assasintion.

first of all i said "i told you, hariri was #1 syrian puppet in lebanon" but he flip-floped against them!!
second, you all start laughing when you hear that syria is behind the fat7 el islam organisation! so im not gonna argue with you on that point

Our allies have good relations with syria they don't ignore it but they don't change faces to keep the chair that's the difference i m not defending any of them i don't want links with syria nor the united states nor KSA... in a way they control my country unlike your allies who keep on seeking for a baby siter against their people.

LOL, your figuring that you and 8march are just angels, and no one that are against you politically did anything to the country!
your just killing 100,000 martyr one more time.. 3ayb!

Do you want it or not?
At least people would know who stole their money in the past 15 years.

did i say i dont want it?

I asked you a question and you didn't reply you can't answer to a question by a question however i ll go with it and let this person answer you or maybe he doesn't know check what he says about tehmish of the christians.

i answered you, you are just waiting people on even the smallest things to start attacking, and i admit, 3atoukon yeha 3a taba2 men fodda , w ento baddkon shaghleh ta tballsho attacking!
at the first, NO ONE and im telling you NO ONE accepted cancelling the good friday, the LF supporters were mad more that you do, but now the friday is back! and everything is fixed. you cant keep accusing in fixed thing, ya3neh 3anzaeh law tarit????
+ you are going to tell me check the ministers bla bla! i memorised what are you going to say! and we all know who's mistake is it from the first place, also here, no need to argue more, there are many topics repeating themselves!!

Wlek kif they're represented?
Who represents them? nayla mouawad? ouwet? min sawatlon?
Stop being blinded it's your rights we're talking about.

check few lines up, i will accept bieng represented by a moderate muslim! than an extremist christian looking for the seat just to say "im representing"

LEGAL? you want elections in maten without the president signature and you tell me LEGAL?

ok then , keep the presidency issue legal, since the majority now are the loyalists, then Aoun would never be the president, jsut keep it legal

However since you're not updated enough FPM is getting ready for these elections in case a unity government had place which will make lahoud sign it

yes, betmouno 3a lahoud sayrin..LOL

Besides to remind you of the LF results in 2005 (14000) FPM (56000) you have big chances

no need to remind you in the circumstances of the elections, which i said it million times, and you still cant understand it yet!

yih kif ba2a? kif it reflects your point of view?
Give me one name who is more popular than GMA for the presidency in the christian street and on all Lebanon and i will be the first to accept him (check all statistics made since 2005 - 2007)

webmasters statistics, yes, SO RELIABLE! lol
besides, GMA is not popular as you think, you are just prooving and convincing your self in things that are far away from reality!

That proves my point eh they won't resign so then the president should not be neutral
ba3dein kif you agree on bachir speech and you want a neutral president lol you're weird!

huh? lol, what BG speech have to do with a neutral/non-neutral president? you think that GMA is the only man that dont take orders from outside? (ma3 enno he is taking baynetna, no one knows whats happening under the table ) , w enno ma fi neurtal president ba2a ?????? ya3neh everyone who dont belong to any side, will come to sign papers ?

When your sanyoura resigns and berre resigns we'll see about that we're not mama tereza to give away our rights haida yalli lezim tefhamo!

waiting each other is not a good point

This is public stupidity kif you want to make a country and have a good relation especially in shouf when people didn't get their money back to return to their homes... and you want good relations mish fehim.

you start good relations, you start negotiations, and then we will get into a solution.
aw bta3rif shou, lets go back to the civil war, fight each other again, in this way you will be happy, if we fought btonbosit, but if something happened called "mosala7a" is bothering you, then its your problem not mine, just go and live somewhere else, bcoz we dont want to fight each other anymore!!!!!

He did before the 2005 elections in public. maybe we should ask jumblat to excuse about the Army he killed in sou2 el ghareb with syrian weapon or for the people he slaughered in shouf

MAYBE, reading each one's history is just to take lessons, but going back, you will see more than that, i will list crimes and you will list w ma bnekhlas!

loool go tell that to haifa she has body guards
However the body guards are in GMA's place but in the big zone he is protected by Lebanese Army and ISF

if thats you analyse, 2raytim region is also pretected by ISF and LA
or 7alel 3indak 7aram 3indo?

Na3mtallah abi naser isn't FPM and many other MPs in our block.

C & C bloc, headed by Aoun, all are working for the same reason, dont play it ironic again

I don't know what's your definition to christians representatives ino they have an ID with christian 3laya or they represent christians? so you're right my friend i really excuse
the LF/nayla... who came with the non christian votes in north represents christians and who won in the christian street doesn't.

review the few lines up

what a logic you use very childish and you tell me you're not a blind follower.

as you wish! if that what you want let it be!

ino you don't know what's the opposition demands and you attack it.
Unity government means to you throwing loyalists outside and sit in their place. you have mental problems

then what? attacking all the loyalist day and night
tell me, are you ready to work with Jumblat, Geagea, Hariri, and Nayla m3awad and etc......?????? if you are ready to unite with them and i hear a ONE DAMN statement from one leader in the opposition, i believe, but till now things are clear

Who accused you being israeli agents?

you did! LOL , HA did!

But there's many facts that shows that you didn't act against them such as the order to give the israeli tea in marja3youn base when they were killing lebanon children

you are now into two choices, the first is to let them enter and you resign, and the second choice you have is to fight them, well let fight, i have nothing (just my gun fard 14 LOOOL) and each soldier of the enemy forces is armed with a GODDAMN 25,000 BUCKS!!!!!!!!!! are you ready for a massacre that cost us 100 life from the lebanese army?
your are not living inside the battle field, and dont wait every one on anything!!

looool, you need some political eduaction my friend you have logic troubles.

However this is my last reply to you, you don't know my demands and you're attacking me and you call youself a non blind follower.
once again: ignorance is a sin

please dont argue me on my affiliation, and on anything esle, if i have a lack of political knowlege, dont mention it, and if you think that im blind follower, also dont mention it, keep talking 3a add l mawdou3!
and close some topics li2anno zhe2et LOOOOL

[SysTaMatIcS]

Originally Posted by Ghnadine

a point that at last they are seeing that all Christian seats are well no more .......they see all that and the alledged Goverment(I won't swear,I want to but I won't) we have in the goverment in specific the Christians are defending the goverement isn't it Ironic..
Xcoder thanks for the Video..
The funny part is that Mr. Samir is Saying where were the 15 years christians rights...right where were the 2uwat when fPM's were beaten and killed and they put him in prison weird isn't it now he came out of jail to stand by his jailor ooof what kind of representation is that to Christians..they wanted to yilgooo al jum3a al 3atheema ooof why don't they yilgoo the 14 feb day off because of Harriri.and now Samir ga3ga3 is defending them by saying it was a mistake............wierd

i swear i still find it extremely funny that the 14 march chrisitians bilieve wat 14 march and sanyoura say abt the cancellation , al it was a mistake , la2ina hiyyi kabsi ghalat bil cell!! byikbisa and here u go! holy friday is deleted! oops my bad ! ill install a software that will bring it back! WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!

[abousoun]

حكومة السنيورة تتهم المطارنة الموارنة بالافتراء عليها
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بدا واضحا حجم الانزعاج والاحراج الذي سببه بيان المطارنة الموارنة لحكومة السنيورة، بدليل استغراق الجلسة خمس ساعات من البحث في كيفية الرد على البيان لاسيما في الامور الثلاث المتعلقة بتملك غير اللبنانيين وقانون حقوق الطفل في الاسلام والتعاقد في عديد قوى الامن الداخلي. لكن وبدل الرد والتطمين اكدت هذه الحكومة هواجس بكركي في معرض سردها للارقام المتعلقة بهذه المواضيع حتى انها وصفت اتهامها بأسلمة لبنان بالافتراء. وقال وزير الإعلام في الحكومة اللاشرعية غازي العريضي" يرى مجلس الوزراء أن اتهام الحكومة بالعمل في سبيل اسلمة لبنان هو افتراء ولا أساس له وجرى استغلاله من قبل البعض، أنا أجيب على ما صدر عن بكركي من نقل هذه المعلومات إلى غبطة البطريرك والى السادة المطارنة الذين نحترم ونقدر هذا شأن لايعنيني".

وقد جاء تأكيد هواجس البطريركية الموارنة من خلال الاعتراف بأن عديد قوى الامن الداخلي من المسيحيين هو ثلاثة وثلاثين بالمئة مقابل ستة وستين بالمئة للمسلمين وان بيع الاراضي للاجانب حاصل لكن وفق القوانين ولم يتجاوز النسبة التي نص عليها القانون. و فيما تم الابقاء على قانون حقوق الطفل في الاسلام دون التراجع عنه، والاكتفاء بإبداء استعداد لمناقشة هواجس بكركي دافع العريضي على طريقته عن عدم انتقاد تدخل السفير الاميركي بالشؤون الداخلية في مقابلته التلفزيونية مؤخرا.

وقال العريضي" تصدر مواقف من دول أخرى بهذا الموضوع، صدرت مواقف من دول كثيرة صدرت مواقف من سوريا ومن إيران ومن فرنسا، ومن دول أخرى عندما يتحدث سفير أي دولة عن رأيه هذا ليس ملزما للحكومة اللبنانية، ثمة الكثير من الأمور كما ذكرت وليست المرة الأولى ولم يكن تعليق على هذا الموضوع من قبل قوى سياسية مختلفة تم تناول هذا الموضوع وأبديت وجهات نظر منها ما هو منطقي ومنها ما هو غير منطقي". وفيما حرص العريضي على نفي التخطيط لاي صفقة في خصخصة الخلوي، بعد الاتهامات التي طالت الفريق الحاكم تراجع هذا الفريق عن قراره بإلغاء عطلة يوم الجمعة العظيمة عند المسيحيين وقرر الغاء المرسوم الذي اصدره بهذا الشأن بعد موجة الاحتجاجات العارمة التي طالته من بكركي وافرقاء مسيحيين.

Thank You ...

[J()e]

Source : ManarTV

with all my respects i cant even trust manar

[Jean]

Originally Posted by lf rabieh

with all my respects i cant even trust manar

you're showing how much some lebanese people are ...

did u read the article dude ? or you're just posting to entertain yourslef ?

did you hear Aridi's statement ? i bet u didn't .

follow this link, the trasncript of aridi's statement

and don't come up telling me that you don't trust the NNA

[flamenguita]

Source: al diyar
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بكركي تشرح موقفها فيطل المطران مظلوم بالأرقام ويقول :‏
حكومة السنيورة وافقت على بيع 7 ملايين متر خلال 6 أشهر‏
الأكثرية تطرح تبديل الكاردينال صفير بحجة سن الـ 90 عاماً‏

لأن البطريركية المارونية ومجلس المطارنة تجرآ على القول أن هنالك عدم توازن في الدولة ‏وان معاهدة حقوق الطفل المسلم تمس المسيحيين وانه لا يجب إلغاء الجمعة العظيمة، هجمت ‏الأكثرية في مؤتمرات صحافية وتصريحات لتنتقد البطريركية المارونية بشكل ليس له مثيل.‏

really how the 14 feb gang can flip in one second, jumbi is teaching them quite well the game!

[IBIN BATTOUTA]

and finally we come to our archibishops
the spirit....the idols....
are they doing enough to prevent christian youth from leaving lebanon?
are they doing enough to support the christian presence in the remote lebanese areas?
they should be the first to get back to the christian displaced villages
where are they?
since 1990
in my village
from a school and a monastery they rebuilt 2 rooms for the nons to spend summer time.
and so far the church is under contruction
man....
too much to say...
wake up all of us....
the opium of the civilizations........very true.
so forget the christian rights.....
and let's talk about lebanese people rights.

[IBIN BATTOUTA]

which is more urgent?

christians right as they are debated
or
granted citizenship to syrians and palestinians
and how many of them.
(60000 syrians...correct me if i'm wrong).
60000 malicious cells
an uncurable cancer....spreading in the lebanese body
when FPM is going to raise this issue?
or is it that
Michel El Morr political weight is more important?