The Da Vinci Code ...

[Josee]

The Sacred Feminine...
Throughout history, there is record of women being oppressed and devalued across many cultures. This has also occurred in the name of Christianity.
When we see atrocities in the church's history, the tendency is to discount Christianity as a whole. These ugly parts of history, rather than showing Christianity to be oppressive, actually point to the reality of the human condition--which is that all people are prone to taking truth and twisting it to serve their own purposes.
In spite of the dark parts of church history, there is also a great deal of light. The Advent of Christianity radically transformed the fate of women. Even ancient Roman pagan scholars agree that it was a turning point for the freedom and dignity of women.
Despite the power and pressure of a male-dominated culture, Jesus valued women. He encouraged women to learn from his teaching, and went out of his way to have conversations with women--to the extent that he was criticized for this.
Historically, Christian women have been powerful supporters of Jesus' message, often despite their status in male-governed cultures. Examples evident in the Bible include: Priscilla and Phoebe, while extra-biblical examples include: Perpetua of Carthage, Monica of Hippo, Teresa of Avila, Julian of Norwich, Katherina von Bora (Martin Luther's wife), Catherine Booth (founder of the Salvation Army) and Mother Teresa.
The Gnostic gospel of Thomas, to which the book refers, records Jesus as wanting to transform Mary Magdalene into a man to make her acceptable to enter heaven.
The modern Priory of Sion was created in 1956 by Pierre Plantard. All documents "proving" a blood line and a list of historical Priory members were proven to be forged in a French court of law.


Are you willing to see that over the centuries the Christian did a great deal to promote the gifts and the rights of women? And while it may take time, are you able to see how liberating Jesus' message is for all minorities? Would you like to enter into a meaningful relationship with Christ, who triumphed over all evil?

[Josee]

The Holy Grail:
Before the twelfth century, there were no legends about the grail; by the thirteenth century the tale had become intertwined with Arthurian legends. The characters from Chretien's story developed into supposed historical figures from the Gospels, and the grail had become the Holy Grail.
There is no historical evidence to connect the ancient female symbol of the chalice to the Holy Grail, since the grail's concept can only be traced back as far as the twelfth century. The re-division of the word Sangreal into Sang Real or Royal Blood appears to be completely manufactured.
The concept that the Last Supper shows Mary Magdalene is rejected by art historians. Leonardo's portrayal of men in a soft, almost effeminate way is well known and is considered a typical representation of young men for that time period.
Author Dan Brown's research into the various historical references are deeply flawed - to the extent that all major points made in the book must be viewed with suspicion.

Are you able to put the theory about the Holy Grail in the Da Vinci Code into question? Would you like to know more about the significance of the real Last Supper as it is described in the Gospels? Would you like to discover the true Jesus, the host of this meal, for yourself?

[mickey]

Guys I didnt read everythin u said.
I watched the movie, read the book, played the game on PS2.
More INFO

It's so complicated.. If u wanna talk about it you need days and days and u will always find things u missed to discuss.
I did it once with my friends, we spend 3 nights talking about the story and till now no one convinced the others.

Bublez if u can give us the link or the source of ur info. Im so interested in this stor.


Thanks

[Josee]

Originally Posted by mickey

Guys I didnt read everythin u said.
I watched the movie, read the book, played the game on PS2.
More INFO

It's so complicated.. If u wanna talk about it you need days and days and u will always find things u missed to discuss.
I did it once with my friends, we spend 3 nights talking about the story and till now no one convinced the others.

Bublez if u can give us the link or the source of ur info. Im so interested in this stor.


Thanks

Mickey,
I know it is so complicated and that you need days and days to talk about it...But it will be interessant if we made a kind of debate about the movie or the book...
I did it twice,and this is my third time
Mickey,I got my info from wikipedia and i searched on google,i did my analysis,and my friend sent me an analysis from France...

[pouta]

Originally Posted by bublez

The lost book of the Bible-Are they real?
Other than the four recognized gospels, there are only eleven ancient documents still in existence today that are called "gospel".
In all of antiquity, there are only twenty eight other sources no longer in existence that are cited or mentioned in Jewish or Gnostic writings as gospels.
Most of the Gnostic works are rejected because they are too late to be written by the purported authors, they rely heavily on the stories in the existing gospels and they contradict the beliefs taught in the orthodox gospels.
All of the Biblical gospels date from the last half of the first century, whereas the two texts the Da Vinci Code relies on most, the gospel of Phillip and the gospel of Mary Magdalene, are from the third to fifth century.
All four canonical gospels exist in lists of church scripture as early as Papias and Justin Martyr and no other gospels ever appear in any list as authoritative. Constantine did not summon the council of Nicea until A.D. 325 - far too late for this claim to be taken seriously.
The Gnostic gospels reflect a line of thinking that didn't arise until the late second century, and it was criticized by the early church fathers Irenaeus, Hippolytus and Tertullian.
Irenaeus makes it clear that the so-called gospels of the Gnostics are heretical precisely because they were secret documents. The Apostolic writings commend themselved because they are public and verifiable.


Are you seeing that the way the books of the Bible were assembled is far different from what the Da Vinci Code claims? Are you able to consider that the hand of God, not a random set of individuals, is the reason for the selection of 66 books which constitute the Holy Scriptures? Would you like to be sure the message of these books is true?

there might have been other scripts of bibles bas iza ur talking religously jesus christ had 4 disciples writing the bible...btw bublez u seem as if u believe every single word in the book...which i already said that its all been proven wrong

[Josee]

Originally Posted by pouta

there might have been other scripts of bibles bas iza ur talking religously jesus christ had 4 disciples writing the bible...btw bublez u seem as if u believe every single word in the book...which i already said that its all been proven wrong

Pouta,
I don't believe the words in Dan Brown's book,but this is what I found when I did the research about The Da Vinci Code...

[Ghnadine]

So everything we studied about our Religion has what been a lie? Jesus Got married ? When I watched the movie and did some research a couple of suspicians came to mind what do you think?

[Josee]

Originally Posted by Ghnadine

So everything we studied about our Religion has what been a lie? Jesus Got married ? When I watched the movie and did some research a couple of suspicians came to mind what do you think?

Ghnadine...
Dan Brown try to convice people who read the book or watched the movie that all what is written in the bible is wrong,that Jesus Christ was married to MM and they had a child,and many other things...
But if you do some researches,you can easily know the truth...
Dan Brown used some true names of people,associations and places to say that his story is based on true things...But if you do some researches,you will know that many of the names used by Dan Brown doesn't exist at the time the story happened or doesn't exist at all...

[Ghnadine]

Originally Posted by bublez

Ghnadine...
Dan Brown try to convice people who read the book or watched the movie that all what is written in the bible is wrong,that Jesus Christ was married to MM and they had a child,and many other things...
But if you do some researches,you can easily know the truth...
Dan Brown used some true names of people,associations and places to say that his story is based on true things...But if you do some researches,you will know that many of the names used by Dan Brown doesn't exist at the time the story happened or doesn't exist at all...

I did alot of research,and its not only Dan Browns theory its alot of people's theory. well sometimes I just wonder things it dosn't mean it affects my faith just wonder.

[Josee]

Originally Posted by Ghnadine

I did alot of research,and its not only Dan Browns theory its alot of people's theory. well sometimes I just wonder things it dosn't mean it affects my faith just wonder.

Same here Ghnadine...Sometimes i say between me and myself: Maybe Dan Brown was right !! Maybe the church was hiding something on us...