Do u think we can make peace with zionists

[mr_j]

Originally Posted by The Legend Killer

rou7 ballit?

they are dead?

man do urself a favor w rou7 sheflak shi doctor w t3alaj coz u need help, the difference between u and me, is that u saw it on ur little screen called TV and felt bad for a moment, I LIVED IT...... I have a dear friend of mine who died during the war, and i cant forget her, let me ask u a question would feel the same if God forbids ur parents were the ones in Qana?

rou7 ballit on the what looks like a permanent war decision that you would support, yes
because it is a dead end
by defending ourselves just enough to remain alive, we are not comming closer to taking back lands

as for the dead
with my respects akid, they died for all of us, so we can maintain our honor, not lose more land, and for the troops who died on the fields, they died defending our lives, we all owe them akid
signing peace will not undo what they did, the fact that we have people ready to die defending our country is what is going to convince the enemy of why he should try and reach a cease fire

where do you see that this war is going? they are twice our size, 10 times our military and economy, they have more relations and allies, even the arab countries would side with them
we pride ourselves with just being able to repel invaders, if we already know, there is no chance of wining, why continue on this road? lebanon is getting worse day after day while they prosper more day after day

teneh shi badak peace? hay el 7doud nzal 3mol peace... w lek fared marra 3mol 3amil hek btedman mousta2balak w mousta2bal wledak..... bass e5ertak ra7 ykebouk bel zbeleh kelon hek addeh kamasho bi 3oumala? wa2ta la2atouwon sa2alo 3anon? 3emlo 7areb 33 yom shi? wlak ma tala3o bayen 7atta..... u think they will give u a better life? they dont give a damn about u, heneh badon masla7ton w bass

a fair peace sar zileh?
w ba3den take it easy on insulting me okay, argue my points of view with logic

[Sheriff Ice]

Originally Posted by The Legend Killer

rou7 ballit?

they are dead?

man do urself a favor w rou7 sheflak shi doctor w t3alaj coz u need help, the difference between u and me, is that u saw it on ur little screen called TV and felt bad for a moment, I LIVED IT...... I have a dear friend of mine who died during the war, and i cant forget her, let me ask u a question would feel the same if God forbids ur parents were the ones in Qana?

Man im with you.

but take it easy you will wake up one day and you will see one of HA officials signing the agreement with israel .

so get ready, li2ano enta badak tez3al w houwe bado tkoun mech fer2ane ma3o

[Justin]

those that you cannot sleep with, cannot make peace with

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Sheriff ice

[TAREK®]

Originally Posted by mr_j

rou7 ballit on the what looks like a permanent war decision that you would support, yes
because it is a dead end
by defending ourselves just enough to remain alive, we are not comming closer to taking back lands

as for the dead
with my respects akid, they died for all of us, so we can maintain our honor, not lose more land, and for the troops who died on the fields, they died defending our lives, we all owe them akid
signing peace will not undo what they did, the fact that we have people ready to die defending our country is what is going to convince the enemy of why he should try and reach a cease fire

where do you see that this war is going? they are twice our size, 10 times our military and economy, they have more relations and allies, even the arab countries would side with them
we pride ourselves with just being able to repel invaders, if we already know, there is no chance of wining, why continue on this road? lebanon is getting worse day after day while they prosper more day after day


a fair peace sar zileh?
w ba3den take it easy on insulting me okay, argue my points of view with logic

fair peace? with Israel? do you think its possible? wtf iza bi arar ma 3erfo yeltezmo..... day by day fi ella sot te7li2, min byet3ata ma3on? haydol adrin yeltezmo bi a agreement?

leh bi war 2006? didnt the arabs side by them? shu tole3 bi idon? wasn't the decision in 2006 was to and I quote Olmert "erase Hizboullah from Lebanon" , " Hassan Nasrallah will never forget the name of Amir Perez" (said by Perez), " we will find and Kill Hassan Nasrallah " (Tsipi Livni), " its time for the new middle east to be born" ( Condalisa Rice) and more and more..... wasn't all this supported by the arabs? did they destroy HA? no, did they kill SHN? no, did SHN forget about Amir Perez? no he still remembers him everytime he wants to joke


the whole world was against us and still we were able to leave victorious

ba3den shu ya bayda ya sawda ma3ak? ya peace ya war? give us or lands back, ALL our prisoners (la2an I am sure fi ba3ed ) back, w 7ello 3anna ma badna la peace wala war, bass i guess thats too much to ask

[Sheriff Ice]

Originally Posted by Justin

those that you cannot sleep with, cannot make peace with

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Sheriff ice

Who told you i cant

They are my neighbors

Good women they are

[TAREK®]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Ice

Man im with you.

but take it easy you will wake up one day and you will see one of HA officials signing the agreement with israel .

so get ready, li2ano enta badak tez3al w houwe bado tkoun mech fer2ane ma3o

proof? evidence? sign? what makes u say that? SHN said that there is no way not in a million years that we will ever make peace with them fa 3tineh dalil this will happen w I will stop supporting HA right now

[mr_j]

peace means not sleeping at night with one eye opened that any second the one accross the border will attack you

ana 3am ellak rou7 n2ol 3a haifa?
but we cannot insist on war, and not recognising the state of israel etc...

ok hizbollah cannot be defeated
bas so what?
our children can still be killed, our homes will still be wrecked, we will still be poor

there is a difference in the situation between 2000 when we got back the south and now
back then, HA was performing operations to pressure the israelis to withdraw
now they are not doing that
they can't because they would be blamed if "another war occurs"

now our situation is, we wait for them to attack and kill our civilains, so we can retaliate and kill their troops and then maybe try a maneuver on the shebaa farms

if they don't attack, we have no shot at taking back anything
and time is on their side, meanwhile leavign us economicly depressed, feeling unsecure, countries wouldn't sell us defensive arms

most likely to happen, is same as each time, they attack we defend, we lose more civilains, they retreat and organise for a next attack, we declare victory

where exactly is the bright future on this road?

proof? evidence? sign? what makes u say that? SHN said that there is no way not in a million years that we will ever make peace with them fa 3tineh dalil this will happen w I will stop supporting HA right now

if we get our lands back, we have no more business fighting

[*Bilal*]

Peace cant be achieved with this "entity". For all people calling for peace, well here u go: 1- We are in state of war with "Israel" and "Israel" is threatening YOU(yes YOU) and the WHOLE Lebanese people -day and night- for bombarding lebanese soils, 2-"Israel" is a "foreign entity" that had been planted 61 years ago in our region replacing the original people(which became our problem hine ma 5ason) by new ones (zionists gathered all around the globe). 3-"Israel" itself cant live without wars, its an "entity" that cant bear any force ( even some fireworks from gaza for example), u either have to surrender or to .... surrender no other choices. In other words, "Israel" was made to dominate or to present its superiority( western superiority) in our region and no one is allowed to cross this line(supposedly). Long story short, u got power u got respect and u can preserve ur rights and live freely, ur powerless u have nothin( mahmoud abbas is a good example).

[mr_j]

Long story short, u got power u got respect and u can preserve ur rights and live freely, ur powerless u have nothin( mahmoud abbas is a good example).

power is what keeps peace
it is what is keeping peace right now
if israel did not know that HA was going to hurt it bad, they would be attacking us right now
yes I understand that, and peace does not mean put your military to sleep

1- We are in state of war with "Israel" and "Israel" is threatening YOU(yes YOU) and the WHOLE Lebanese people

I never said otherwise, I know

2-"Israel" is a "foreign entity" that had been planted 61 years ago in our region replacing the original people(which became our problem hine ma 5ason) by new ones (zionists gathered all around the globe).

all the arab countries accepted it, and half the palestinians accepted it, why should we be alone "bi bouz el madfa3" when we are the smallest and least powerful arab country?

3-"Israel" itself cant live without wars

just because the sayyed said that, does not necessarly make it a fact, egypt has no problems with israeli aircrafts breaching its borders, syria same(but that is mainly because they have a real army) israel so far needed to be always at war

its an "entity" that cant bear any force ( even some fireworks from gaza for example)

you are underestimating the israelis aloooooooooooot
time is against us, the current israelis are ones that were born in israel, they inherited houses from their fathers and stuff, they consider it their country
and it wasn't always heaven for the zionists, and you know they survived against the odds, against all the arabs combined, and they lost thousands of people in the past

difference is right now is that they feel they shouldn't have to lose anyone, seing that they got the upper hand
but if it comes down to a real fight for survival, don't think they will cowar away. after being there for 60 years, entering the third generation of israelis now, they will defend it as if it is their home, just as you would defend your home

edit: to be very very clear on my points of view
peace is very complicated because we have the palestinian refugee issue, and the occupied land, and the israeli fears of HA etc... and I wouldn't want peace that does not return our occupied land, gets rid of the palestinian refugee issue and gets us a powerful army to replace HA
and I am not desperate for peace and I don't want to be a mossad agent or coward like tarek accused me I will fight and support HA in all the coming battles and pressures as long as they might last, and I would die defending my country

but my opinion remains, I think we need some more effort of the diplomatic level to solve all these issues and maybe get it over with
if we can avoid future wars, without the cost of our dignity, lets try and do that

before saying israel won't accept, we have not been trying

[Adam]

Do you really think that if there was a peace agreement we would be treated with dignity?
If there was peace in the middle east while Israel is still standing, who do you think would be the strongest country?
It will be Israel, they will set the rules and we'd have to follow, just like every other tyrant that has ruled this land for the last I-don't-know-how-many-hundred years.
If we don't protect ourself from foreign influence we won't last another 50 years and Israel is a country that just can't mind it's own affairs. They will always have their spies in our country and their paid off politicians in our government, peace or no peace.

But I guess there will always be people who will take the easy way, bend over and take it up the you know what.


P.S: Remember that in Israel one Jew is worth more than a hundred Arabs, that won't change with a peace agreement.