GMA's Initiative regarding the presidency!!!!

[xcoder]

Originally Posted by IBIN BATTOUTA

define shit.......please.
donkey logic.
hit the streets......for what?.
to yell.....christians rights?.
to yell.....as minority we want to impose a president on the majority?.
to yell.....taef to be replaced by the MoU.
to yell.....HA has the right to train, arm and build the way he likes.
to tell.....stop licking HA shoes and start addressing the issues directly.
to yell.....give the Oct 13 hero another chance?.
to yell.....give the 1989 - 1990 absolute ruler another chance.
ok....had enough.

I don't know where you live, but certainly not in Lebanon because all what you said show true ignorance of the Lebanese system and how things happen in Lebanon.

to yell.....as minority we want to impose a president on the majority?.

That was elected by a syrian law and played it dirty with hizbullah to get their votes?
Or get back constitutional council that was removed because of "being syrian" forgetting in which law they were elected with!
Maybe to remove the people who brought us 44 billion $ and still sucking our blood everyday? or ignoring the Lebanese constitution and play beit byout with it as if hariri owns and his gang owns it!

1989-1990 is a great honor to Lebanon and Lebanese when your majority was kissing syria's ass to occupy us and give them a chair in return we were fighting and dying to keep this Land free! every soldier who died back then is = to 1 million rakif l hariri!

Stop your bullshit showing that you're the only ones sacrificing for this country and showing us as traitors, when syria bomb us you side with it when it leaves you go against it same thing applies to israel.

[IBIN BATTOUTA]

Originally Posted by FriendOfZeus

Why do u hate the people that defend, fight and regain ur lands?

who said anything about hating them?.

it is not about love and hate.
i have an army.
this army should be responsible for my security.
it should be allowed to reach every single square cm of the lebanese soil.

it should have the only weapons arsenal in lebanon.
it should have the final word in security and defence issues.

HA is blocking this.
HA is doing his best for the above not to take place.
build an army.....for us to dissolve ours. (SHN).

he has in fact occupied the land he liberated.
he built his own ghetto on the land he liberated.
he built his own infrastructure on the land he liberated.

so this regain ur lands issue.........is a joke....
if you believe it...............i don't.

[mr_j]

the lebanese army was barely able to defeat the terrorists in Naher al Bared how do you expect it to stand against israel? it's not HA that's getting in the way of security, it's the fact that the lebanese army isn't strong enough,why isn't it strong enough? it's because the corrupted goverment won't get the army any weapons, the US and the europeans won't sell us arms because we threaten israel and the goverment is busy cursing syria and iran instead of considering buying weapons for the army. I'm not happy myself with the fact that we are counting on a militia to keep us safe but we don't have much choice.

[IBIN BATTOUTA]

Originally Posted by sweets_hsn

Because he is from a political side who always shake hands with USA and Israel and any country that come, did he forget how LF used to Gain money?by accepting Nuclear wastes to be buried In the LEBANESE LANDS, w elo 3eyn ye7ki!!

my friend,
you give me too much credit...accusing me to be an LF.
the issue of USA and Israel....

god bless hobeika's sole.
Overnight he was tagged by SYRIA as anti USA and anti Israel.

god bless our GMA and protect him.
Ovenight he was tagged by SYRIA as anti USA and anti Israel.
Overnight he was enlightened and became pro HA.

god protect hariri and saniora.
Overnight they are tagged by Syria as pro USA and Israel.

these certificates are for free.
as they are pure bull***it.

in his last speech.....
GMA spoke about Shiaa more than anything else.
what i understood is that,
GMA does not have a solution for HA arms?.
So the MoU came as this is all i can do?.

endorsed by Dr. Alain Aoun statement that
he doesn't mind dividing power among sunna, shiaa and christians?.
So the MoU came as Nothing we can do?.

I blame the LF for it.
as GMA and Alain ba**s got affected by the nuclear wastes?.

[IBIN BATTOUTA]

Originally Posted by xcoder

I don't know where you live, but certainly not in Lebanon because all what you said show true ignorance of the Lebanese system and how things happen in Lebanon.
That was elected by a syrian law and played it dirty with hizbullah to get their votes?

2 years so far and we are not able to have an electoral law.
you wanted to extend for the previous parliament for 2 years?.
boycot elections...i would understand...
but you have got one of the biggest masses in parliament.....so the system was fair for you.
why don't you try something else.
the real reasons ....that is if you know them.

Originally Posted by xcoder

Or get back constitutional council that was removed because of "being syrian" forgetting in which law they were elected with!

isyrian law brought all the guys you see to parliament.
including GMA.

Originally Posted by xcoder

Maybe to remove the people who brought us 44 billion $ and still sucking our blood everyday? or ignoring the Lebanese constitution and play beit byout with it as if hariri owns and his gang owns it!

all are partners in the 44 B$ except for Aoun , Geagea and Kornet chehwan.
hariri....berri....HA....psp....ssnp.....syria.... .all in all were involved.
by the name of resistance....by the name of brotherhood....by the name of greed.....
the hell with them....they can be audited at a later stage.
but the priority today is for building the country....
by building its army and security forces.
no one should be beyond the reach of my army and security forces.
no one should allow himself to say...build a country for us to dismantle the ghetto.......SHN.
no one should allow himself to prevent the army and security forces from reaching the extreme south....and accuse them of being the tea army..HA.
no way i'll allow these thugs to push me......
to hit the streets........for them to keep their ghetto.

Originally Posted by xcoder

1989-1990 is a great honor to Lebanon and Lebanese when your majority was kissing syria's ass to occupy us and give them a chair in return we were fighting and dying to keep this Land free! every soldier who died back then is = to 1 million rakif l hariri!

the 1989 - 1990 was a golden opportunity for GMA.
he wasted it...on mostly internal affairs.
not a single step in the right direction.
i won't hit the streets to give him another chance.

Originally Posted by xcoder

Stop your bullshit showing that you're the only ones sacrificing for this country and showing us as traitors, when syria bomb us you side with it when it leaves you go against it same thing applies to israel.

we were the first to sacrifice for this country.
when you tell me that your GMA was the first to fight syria.....
when your GMA will treat me as a traitor....
this is what i call bull***t.

[libanati]

Originally Posted by IBIN BATTOUTA

we were the first to sacrifice for this country.

Who?

Originally Posted by IBIN BATTOUTA

when your GMA will treat me as a traitor....

Why are you making such allegations?

[Sogelec]

Originally Posted by IBIN BATTOUTA

.all are partners in the 44 B$ except for Aoun , Geagea and Kornet chehwan.
hariri....berri....HA....psp....ssnp.....syria.... .all in all were involved.
by the name of resistance....by the name of brotherhood....by the name of greed.....
the hell with them....they can be audited at a later stage

Kef HA is part in the 44B$??...Dont U have memory?????

Originally Posted by IBIN BATTOUTA

but the priority today is for building the country....
by building its army and security forces.
no one should be beyond the reach of my army and security forces.
no one should allow himself to say...build a country for us to dismantle the ghetto.......SHN.
no one should allow himself to prevent the army and security forces from reaching the extreme south....and accuse them of being the tea army..HA.
no way i'll allow these thugs to push me......
to hit the streets........for them to keep their ghetto.

SHN accused fatfat about the tea not the army, Fekrak el Sla7 ele 2atal feh el jeysh b Nahr el Bared Kan Mn America w Europe???...w fehmak kfeye,
I want to Ask You About Your Opinion in the tea thing, Is That the Security Forces you want?then la shu nsale7on!!

Originally Posted by IBIN BATTOUTA

the 1989 - 1990 was a golden opportunity for GMA.
he wasted it...on mostly internal affairs.
not a single step in the right direction.
i won't hit the streets to give him another chance.

Its Up To You Not to give him another chance, for More Than a Million LEBANESE ppl he is our survivor and no one else other than him!!

Originally Posted by IBIN BATTOUTA

we were the first to sacrifice for this country.
when you tell me that your GMA was the first to fight syria.....
when your GMA will treat me as a traitor....
this is what i call bull***t.

Sacrification is not by Killing Another Lebanese ppl for race, religion or any other excuse rite? so i guess sacrification started with GMA and El Moqawama in 1982 and no other sacrification in this Country other than that!!

U mentioned that GMA talked about el Shia more than any 1 else, im gonna tell u smthn, lama el wa7ad ykoon 7amel 2adeye w tkoon el 2adeye wataneye, ma bet3ood tefro2 iza shey3e wla shu ma kan deno...HE IS LEBANESE!!..w Same Iza el Shia 7ekyo 3an hmoom el mase7eye..dats wat we call UNITY!!
And Y do u talk about HA as if he is a shame!!, isnt he Lebanese???elna el Sharaf nkoon 7olafa la HA w ykoon GMA bl a5as howe hal 7aleef, @ least we started feeling eno we have brothers and sisters in this country, and this country in the presence of our brothers and sisters is worth to sacrifice by blood in protecting it, the shame is talking about blood sacrification b hal taree2a!!!

[xcoder]

Originally Posted by IBIN BATTOUTA

2 years so far and we are not able to have an electoral law.
you wanted to extend for the previous parliament for 2 years?.
boycot elections...i would understand...
but you have got one of the biggest masses in parliament.....so the system was fair for you.
why don't you try something else.
the real reasons ....that is if you know them.
isyrian law brought all the guys you see to parliament.
including GMA.

Do you think it would have been better for the opposition to play it pure democratic with a person that didn't move his butt a cm when a million Lebanese went down against him?
Yes that law brought all of them and all of them should go home and have new elections, that's what we were calling for for the last 2 years. it's either some people were deaf or just act that way.

all are partners in the 44 B$ except for Aoun , Geagea and Kornet chehwan.
hariri....berri....HA....psp....ssnp.....syria.... .all in all were involved.
by the name of resistance....by the name of brotherhood....by the name of greed.....
the hell with them....they can be audited at a later stage.

The main corruption heads are hariri , jumblat , berri we all know that. Hizbullah was out of the political game all along don't try to put him bel daher.
But someone was really scared so he preferred lahoud ministers on FPM's especially when it came to the ministry of justice

but the priority today is for building the country....

So u're trying to tell me here, "yes they are thieves it's okay let them rule alone without anyone watching them so they build a country" get real dude!

by building its army and security forces.

Go ask the Army who removed 50% of its budget, go ask the Army in the last 2 years how much its budget was decreased and you will find out it's the same person you're supporting as prime minister!

no one should be beyond the reach of my army and security forces.
no one should allow himself to say...build a country for us to dismantle the ghetto.......SHN.
no one should allow himself to prevent the army and security forces from reaching the extreme south....and accuse them of being the tea army..HA.
no way i'll allow these thugs to push me......
to hit the streets........for them to keep their ghetto.

People like you are totally blinded and only know how to show the issue but never the solution. we go west you say hizbullah we go east you say hizbullah. give me the solution to remove hizbullah weapons for god sakes.
Israel was not able to take off a pistol from them during the last war.
You talk about hizbullah weapon but you never talk about the israeli terror on your borders who killed more than 1000 civilian during the last war and that's okay with you as long it's not Syria killing Lebanese.
The only way to take that weapon is to find a defensive solution to our people and that's one of the points in the MOU that you keep attacking without reading it!
Don't ever think that the people of the south will accept to give away one of their main defensive weapon and get slaughtered like in 80s because geagea or hariri or u.s want that without anything in return.
You always attack that weapon but you never ask yourself why that weapon was found in the first place!

the 1989 - 1990 was a golden opportunity for GMA.
he wasted it...on mostly internal affairs.
not a single step in the right direction.
i won't hit the streets to give him another chance.

opportunity? GET REAL
the whole international community was against him backing syria to occupy Lebanon as exchange of their help in kuwait.
YES he was the one who stood against all and kept the resistance flame on when many who were pretending to fight syria gave away their weapons to them in exchange of 1 minister, does it ring a bell?

we were the first to sacrifice for this country.
when you tell me that your GMA was the first to fight syria.....
when your GMA will treat me as a traitor....
this is what i call bull***t.

No one said he was the only one who ever fought syrians, but he's the only one who didn't give away his card for a seat or a deal or any of that in exchange of the sovereignty of this country and its people.
He didn't accept taef that kept syrians in Lebanon for 15 years.
The only difference between this man and the others is that he doesn't accept any kind of occupation or babysitter not from syria nor u.s and that's bother you. the same level of talking was used by the side you're supporting when syrians were here accusing one of blocking the solution in the country and look what solution they got with the syrians yoopy!!!