The lebanese in israel situation

[-t-o-n-y-]

everyone should return....actually i don;t know about this lahed thing....but everyone has the right to have his own opinion in politics....some are with israel some are against ....and i'm not talking about lahed dunno what....but if he's a criminal well we have in lebanon many criminals also they should be in prison and actually 3emlinoun zou3ama....we have many traitors that ma t7ekamo...traitors that worked with syrian occupation and traitors who worked with israeli's occupation...so in general everyone has the right to return....and eza baddo ysir mou7ekame...let it be for all traitors...and all criminals....and like mr_j said fi ness makhassa like the children that were obliged to go...and etc etc etc

[El-Meghwar]

The 6th point in the MoU between Hezbollah and the Free Patriotic Movement says :

-اللبنانيون في إسرائيل
انطلاقاً من قناعتنا أنّ وجود أي لبناني على أرضه هو أفضل من رؤيته على أرض العدو فإن حل مشكلة اللبنانيين الموجودين لدى إسرائيل تطلب عملاً حثيثاً من أجل عودتهم إلى وطنهم آخذين بعين الاعتبار كل الظروف السياسية والأمنية والمعيشية المحيطة بالموضوع. لذلك نوجه نداءً لهم بالعودة السريعة إلى وطنهم إسترشاداً بنداء سماحة السيد حسن نصرالله بعد الإنسحاب
الإسرائيلي من جنوب لبنان وإستلهاماً بكلمة العماد ميشال عون في أول جلسة لمجلس النواب.

The only problem is that 14 Feb. forces are opposing their come back in order not to give credits for the MoU that have been signed between HA and FPM.

Of course those who collaborated with the enemy and have done crimes against the Lebanese citizens during that era should be conducted to trial.
and i also think that those who collaborated with Syria and have done crimes against the Lebanese citizens should also be conducted to trial. or else set everyone free.

but concerning the Lebanese families in Israel who have nothing to do with crimes and collaborating with the enemy have the complete right in coming back to their homes !

[Tinman]

Originally Posted by -t-o-n-y-

everyone should return....actually i don;t know about this lahed thing....but everyone has the right to have his own opinion in politics....some are with israel some are against ....and i'm not talking about lahed dunno what....but if he's a criminal well we have in lebanon many criminals also they should be in prison and actually 3emlinoun zou3ama....we have many traitors that ma t7ekamo...traitors that worked with syrian occupation and traitors who worked with israeli's occupation...so in general everyone has the right to return....and eza baddo ysir mou7ekame...let it be for all traitors...and all criminals....and like mr_j said fi ness makhassa like the children that were obliged to go...and etc etc etc

Everyone is entitled to their own political views as long as they don't violate of the countries that you live in. Working with an enemy, killing lebanese, torturing, imprisoning etc...are not political views. Those are crimes. Taking an army unit and making it work with the enemy is punishable by death. Defend them as much as you want, the government can let them go but the people will take justice into their own hands.

[-t-o-n-y-]

Originally Posted by Tinman

Everyone is entitled to their own political views as long as they don't violate of the countries that you live in. Working with an enemy, killing lebanese, torturing, imprisoning etc...are not political views. Those are crimes. Taking an army unit and making it work with the enemy is punishable by death. Defend them as much as you want, the government can let them go but the people will take justice into their own hands.

and don;t you think the period of time when syria was occupying our land kenit sourya an enemy....?! and don't you think that everyone who accepted l za3ranet l sarit wl te2til wl tedbi7 l sar should be in jail?!?!?and the ones who thanked syria and still brag how they were with syria in that time w bcharaf be2elouwa ......and i'm not saying that people like jumblat and those are good la2an baramo...i'm saying everyone who accepted an occupation to lebanon is a TRAITOR! yet7ekamo kelloun aw noone.....

[SysTaMatIcS]

Originally Posted by -t-o-n-y-

everyone should return....actually i don;t know about this lahed thing....but everyone has the right to have his own opinion in politics....some are with israel some are against ....and i'm not talking about lahed dunno what....but if he's a criminal well we have in lebanon many criminals also they should be in prison and actually 3emlinoun zou3ama....we have many traitors that ma t7ekamo...traitors that worked with syrian occupation and traitors who worked with israeli's occupation...so in general everyone has the right to return....and eza baddo ysir mou7ekame...let it be for all traitors...and all criminals....and like mr_j said fi ness makhassa like the children that were obliged to go...and etc etc etc

dealing with the enemy is high treason .

[-t-o-n-y-]

Originally Posted by SysTaMatIcS

dealing with the enemy is high treason .

my answer is in my last reply......

and don;t you think the period of time when syria was occupying our land kenit sourya an enemy....?! and don't you think that everyone who accepted l za3ranet l sarit wl te2til wl tedbi7 l sar should be in jail?!?!?and the ones who thanked syria and still brag how they were with syria in that time w bcharaf be2elouwa ......and i'm not saying that people like jumblat and those are good la2an baramo...i'm saying everyone who accepted an occupation to lebanon is a TRAITOR! yet7ekamo kelloun aw noone.....

[El-Meghwar]

Originally Posted by -t-o-n-y-

and don;t you think the period of time when syria was occupying our land kenit sourya an enemy....?! and don't you think that everyone who accepted l za3ranet l sarit wl te2til wl tedbi7 l sar should be in jail?!?!?and the ones who thanked syria and still brag how they were with syria in that time w bcharaf be2elouwa ......and i'm not saying that people like jumblat and those are good la2an baramo...i'm saying everyone who accepted an occupation to lebanon is a TRAITOR! yet7ekamo kelloun aw noone.....

The Lebanese government is the only authority allowed to take a decision in considering a certain country as an enemy or not, they never took such a decision against Syria.

and as i told you, everyone collaborated with Syria except General Aoun, even the LF fought side by side with the Syrians against General Aoun and participated in the governments that have been formed after 1990, same as for the Kataeb and what was called the opposition.

And as i told you also, Hezbollah have strategic relations with Syria, if it wasn't for Syria, Hezbollah would have been slaughtered a long time ago.
Hezbollah opposed all the governments since 1990 till 2005.
Hezbollah were Syria's allies benefiting from their relations with the Syrian regime for the best of Lebanon and the resistance, not for making own fortunes, running ministries and being Syrian puppets.
when they thanked Syria, they had their reasons, and the reasons are what i just stated.

[-t-o-n-y-]

Originally Posted by El-Meghwar

The Lebanese government take a decision in considering a certain country as an enemy or not.
and as i told you, everyone collaborated with Syria except General Aoun, even the LF and Kataeb fought side by side with the Syrians against General Aoun and participated in the governments that have been formed after 1990.

And as i told you also, Hezbollah have strategic relations with Syria, if it wasn't for Syria, Hezbollah would have been slaughtered a long time ago.
Hezbollah opposed all the governments since 1990 till 2005.
Hezbollah was Syria's ally benifiting from his relations with the syrian regime for the best of Lebanon and the resistance, not for making own fortunes, running ministries and being a Syrian puppet.
when they thanked Syria, they had their reasons, and the reasons are what i just stated.

m saying everyone who accepted an occupation to lebanon is a TRAITOR! yet7ekamo kelloun aw noone.....

red part: u said best of lebanon.....so what fpm was doing wasn't for the best of lebanon since they had two different ideas and opposed ideas....one was WITH the syrian occupation (everyone who accepted it should be in jail like everyone who accepts any occupation ...)and fpm politics which were against this occupation...

[Kain]

Originally Posted by El-Meghwar

The Lebanese government is the only authority allowed to take a decision in considering a certain country as an enemy or not, they never took such a decision against Syria.

and as i told you, everyone collaborated with Syria except General Aoun, even the LF fought side by side with the Syrians against General Aoun and participated in the governments that have been formed after 1990, same as for the Kataeb and what was called the opposition.

And as i told you also, Hezbollah have strategic relations with Syria, if it wasn't for Syria, Hezbollah would have been slaughtered a long time ago.
Hezbollah opposed all the governments since 1990 till 2005.
Hezbollah were Syria's ally benefiting from their relations with the Syrian regime for the best of Lebanon and the resistance, not for making own fortunes, running ministries and being Syrian puppets.
when they thanked Syria, they had their reasons, and the reasons are what i just stated.

I agree with what you said...but don't forget that Syria opposed Hezbollah at the very beginning and sought out to destroy it.
They weren't always allies.

[El-Meghwar]

Originally Posted by -t-o-n-y-

red part: u said best of lebanon.....so what fpm was doing wasn't for the best of lebanon since they had two different ideas and opposed ideas....one was WITH the syrian occupation (everyone who accepted it should be in jail like everyone who accepts any occupation ...)and fpm politics which were against this occupation...

The best for Lebanon in Hezbollah's mind was: liberating the South from the Israeli occupation, and they couldn't have done it without the Syrian help. (Hezbollah's people can explain more concerning this point)

The best for Lebanon in FPM's mind was: liberating Lebanon from the Syrian occupation.

FPM and Hezbollah both fought the occupation, everyone in its own way.
FPM were opposing the Israeli occupation as well, Hezbollah were not main political players during the Syrian occupation (on the government level) and they had their common interests with Syria (wich i stated previously).

So basically FPM and HA were both right !