Naturalization Next Door!!!

[SysTaMatIcS]

i couldnt care less for the pal. weapons , but what if another civil war happened , who would protect them?? sabra and chatila is a big example of that , tal al zaatar is a perfect example too , maybe a division under the army would be better .
and for gods sake , im talking about giving the palastenian the rights that the americans and the rest of the world have in lebanon . nothin more!

[El-Meghwar]

Originally Posted by SysTaMatIcS

i couldnt care less for the pal. weapons , but what if another civil war happened , who would protect them?? sabra and chatila is a big example of that , tal al zaatar is a perfect example too , maybe a division under the army would be better .
and for gods sake , im talking about giving the palastenian the rights that the americans and the rest of the world have in lebanon . nothin more!

U didn't read my previous post.
Read everything before posting.

Anyway concerning the Palestinian weapons, so now these weapons are in order to protect themselves if a civil war happened?
why do they have to interfere in this civil war in the first place?
The Palestinians involved themselves in the civil war(1975-1990) that's if i didn't say they were the starters and the reason behind that war. they did massacres and killed Lebanese civilians, that's why Sabra & Chatila and many other massacres took place (i condemn it).
The Palestinians doesn't have to defend themselves in any coming civil war because no one will attack them if they didn't involve themselves in the war, so they don't need weapons if they are not willing to interfere with a certain party, and i am not talking about light weapons, but artillery and heavy weapons inside and outside the camps, in addition to preventing the Lebanese Army from entering the camps which are a Lebanese land.

And for God's sake Mr systa read the whole post before replying.

[MARX ®]

naturalization wld simply bring a new civil war, cz after it, we'll certainly got to redistribute all parlimentary seats in lebanon thus giving the Sunna the higest percentage! fi abt 1/2 million palestinean in lebanon mo3zamon msalla7een, nd those wld certainly make a difference...

that's all abt naturalization, but we shouldnt forget that those people are Arabs as well, we should give them their normal rights as Humans, ya3ne saffa l serlanke bl lebnen 3ayish 2a7san min l palestineans! we cld agree on a point that to give them etra rights but not to give them the lebanese nationality!

Naturalization will lead for palestineans to forget their motherland, the land they were born in, the land they were kicked off, and the land they're struggling for! plus if we give palestineans a lebanese nationality, this will be a benefit for israel, thus it will be able to be free of them and of all those who urge for the palestineans to return to palestine!

[SysTaMatIcS]

Originally Posted by El-Meghwar

U didn't read my previous post.
Read everything before posting.

Anyway concerning the Palestinian weapons, so now these weapons are in order to protect themselves if a civil war happened?
why do they have to interfere in this civil war in the first place?
The Palestinians involved themselves in the civil war(1975-1990) that's if i didn't say they were the starters and the reason behind that war. they did massacres and killed Lebanese civilians, that's why Sabra & Chatila and many other massacres took place (i condemn it).
The Palestinians doesn't have to defend themselves in any coming civil war because no one will attack them if they didn't involve themselves in the war, so they don't need weapons if they are not willing to interfere with a certain party, and i am not talking about light weapons, but artillery and heavy weapons inside and outside the camps, in addition to preventing the Lebanese Army from entering the camps which are a Lebanese land.

And for God's sake Mr systa read the whole post before replying.

fateh movement is the main reason for the civil war , not only did they participate , and i feel digsuted from them and from abo ammar untill this day.
sabra and chatila and tal al zaatar had no armed personnel when kataeb did the massacares , they did it out of hate and racism , who would stop them once again to do this?? theyll go out of racism and wipe out the camps.unless if there was a pal. division in the army and under its control to defend it , thats what syria did , they have a full division of palastenians in the camps.
other than that , there must be another solution for this , in a way that protects them incase of war.
im not with the arms they have , im totally against it and i feel disgusted when i see young and small children in the camps carrying weapons , and when anyone has a slight problem he goes and kills a man , what needs to be done , is another nahr l bared in the other camps , and re-arrangment of the situation .

[Rampage!!]

for those who are saying that the Palestinian are not getting their full rights i think Lebanese are more important than them and we still see Lebanese without work, money and living in a shitty way .
and they have NO RIGHT what so ever to keep weapons with them if they want their militia to have weapons i suggest they go back to Palestine or stay here unarmed , and the Lebanese army can enter any camp any where in Lebanon without anyone's permission

[TAREK®]

Originally Posted by emilio

for those who are saying that the Palestinian are not getting their full rights i think Lebanese are more important than them and we still see Lebanese without work, money and living in a shitty way .
and they have NO RIGHT what so ever to keep weapons with them if they want their militia to have weapons i suggest they go back to Palestine or stay here unarmed , and the Lebanese army can enter any camp any where in Lebanon without anyone's permission

u are missing the point, why does an American have the right to buy a land, invest it, have a house and live here in Lebanon and the Palestinian doesn't?

I agree with the part where they shouldn't be armed

at the last part l3ama leh nfa3alet? teneh shi shu fia el amerkaineh bi lebnen 3ayesh a7san mnel lebneneh w yet fi yeshtreh w ybee3 iza falastineh ma3o masareh (werteh) leh badak temna3o men eno ya3mel 3ishto aw y3ish 3a 7sebo bi hal balad I am not saying give them the same rights as the lebanese ones but at least give them the same rights u give to the french, americans, or anyone who come from a foreign country and want to live here

[Rami_s]

جيب المدفع بو انطون تنربي كل البيخون
وتنخلي اللاجئ عرفات يبسلو ايدو لشمعون

[sanfour zagtour]

Originally Posted by systamatics

first , the flag is offensive , 2nd most of the palastenians dont want neutralization (except for the ones who are in a very messy situation) .
Neutralization of the palastenians will add to the sunnists 300,000 to them , this will make harriri the strongest between all the lebanese and the number 1 leader.

أول شي هيدا الحكي كلو خطأ و بدعة عشنا فيها طول حيايتنا ، فيك تخبرني أيمتا صار أخر إحصاء سكاني ، حتىيركدو ل يعطوا الجنسية لل فلسطيني !!! ما حدة مستفيد من إعطاء الجنسية إلا إسرائيل !

[sanfour zagtour]

أنا أكيد ضد إعطاء جنسية اللبنانية لل فلسطيني لسبب هوي حق العودة ، بس فيني إسأل طب إنو متل ما جنست الارمن شو بصير إذا تجنس الفلسطيني شو هل مصيبي الكبرى !!

[-t-o-n-y-]

Originally Posted by sanfour zagtour

أنا أكيد ضد إعطاء جنسية اللبنانية لل فلسطيني لسبب هوي حق العودة ، بس فيني إسأل طب إنو متل ما جنست الارمن شو بصير إذا تجنس الفلسطيني شو هل مصيبي الكبرى !!

that's one reason

لسبب هوي حق العودة

that's a second reason

naturalization wld simply bring a new civil war,we'll certainly got to redistribute all parlimentary seats in lebanon thus giving the Sunna the higest percentage! fi abt 1/2 million palestinean in lebanon mo3zamon msalla7een, nd those wld certainly make a difference

just read all the thread...so i won't quote every post....and also u can read ur post it has the answer to ur question...